Appreciating cars... suggestions ? What's the current trend ?

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A big bet to make at this point in time... Buy Evora and have it appreciate because new stuff sucks (unlikely) or buy it and have it tank... because new offerings at nearly the same price are way better.

Hmmm... Tough time.
The new ones are very likely to be electrified or share quite a bit with Volvo since they're owned by the same company.

I think the Evora will go down as the best Lotus before the Chinese got involved. It's an actual livable car unlike the Elise, bulletproof reliability using a Camry engine, but still maintains the Lotus "charm".

I love the Evora.
Does anyone know if the addition of the supercharger (one I was catching shit for) is doing a number on the reliability.
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LC500 convertible. High price of entry but I'd be shocked if they don't hover near msrp for years.

I still think the 97-02 SL500 is nearly the best option in this thread without spending $50k or more.
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CaleDeRoo wrote: Mon Jan 25, 2021 11:48 am LC500 convertible. High price of entry but I'd be shocked if they don't hover near msrp for years.

I still think the 97-02 SL500 is nearly the best option in this thread without spending $50k or more.
LC500... hmm I don't see why, the SC430 was far more innovative and special (based on when it was made). I see the LC dropping like the MB SL line down to 10% of MSRP in 10 years.
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Man, this is cool...not sure it would ever drop a ton from this.
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Detroit wrote: Mon Jan 25, 2021 11:52 am https://www.cargurus.com/Cars/inventory ... =292234782

Man, this is cool...not sure it would ever drop a ton from this.
It is a "lemon" with 4 owners... SUS
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Detroit wrote: Mon Jan 25, 2021 11:52 am https://www.cargurus.com/Cars/inventory ... =292234782

Man, this is cool...not sure it would ever drop a ton from this.
Didn't scroll far enough to see that. :balls:

Would be a good one to buy and drive, but resale would be a PITA.
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And this is still speaking to me for some reason...
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Audi Quattro coupe
Saab viggen
Xterra
Alfa GTV6
Toyota Celica GTS
Evo 8MR or 9
GTR
8th gen Civic Si if stock
Clean E34’s
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Hummer H1
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max225 wrote: Mon Jan 25, 2021 11:58 am https://www.vegasautogallery.com/inventory/

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And this is still speaking to me for some reason...
Coupe manual if you want maximum value retention and appreciation. The verts don’t hold value as well.
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[user not found] wrote: Mon Jan 25, 2021 12:19 pm
Johnny_P wrote: Mon Jan 25, 2021 12:06 pm Audi Quattro coupe
Saab viggen
Xterra
Alfa GTV6
Toyota Celica GTS
Evo 8MR or 9
GTR
8th gen Civic Si if stock
Clean E34’s
Fraud Raptor
Hummer H1
Oh man, a Viggen 9-3. :jimp:
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I've wanted one for a while. Just not sure they'll ever be worth much.
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max225 wrote: Mon Jan 25, 2021 11:56 am Hmm what about a BMW I8?

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I think these have a way to fall. Seems like right now, non-electrified stuff has the most upside.
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max225 wrote: Mon Jan 25, 2021 11:58 am https://www.vegasautogallery.com/inventory/

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And this is still speaking to me for some reason...
Because it's fantastic!!?

I want one...just concerned about maintenance requirements. I think that would be cost prohibitive on these.
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Detroit wrote: Mon Jan 25, 2021 12:25 pm
I think these have a way to fall. Seems like right now, non-electrified stuff has the most upside.
Plus future wrenchability.
That's the big one.

I honestly think these don't have a floor. They're going to be a disaster to keep going in the future.
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Detroit wrote: Mon Jan 25, 2021 12:27 pm
max225 wrote: Mon Jan 25, 2021 11:58 am https://www.vegasautogallery.com/inventory/

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And this is still speaking to me for some reason...
Because it's fantastic!!?

I want one...just concerned about maintenance requirements. I think that would be cost prohibitive on these.
It seems like 5k a year is the rule of thumb. Which doesn’t seem terribad. If the value keeps going up by the same amount
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I brought these up once and was almost drummed out of the forum for liking a Ferrari with the "engine in the wrong place." I have never heard any tale of their ease of maintenance (relatively speaking) until this morning.
Who drummed you out?

:notsure:

550 Maranellos and 575Ms are proper pasta chariots.

612s can :gtfo: though.
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Johnny_P wrote: Thu Feb 09, 2023 3:21 pm Earn it and burn it, Val.
max225 wrote: Mon May 01, 2023 5:35 pm Yes it's a cool car. But prepare the lube/sawdust.
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Isn't an E90 M3 :manuel: kind one of the safest relatively low costs bets? Last N/A M3. A good looking car my any measure. Yes, you have to replace the bearings but you could buy a whole spare engine for the cost of one engine out Ferrari service no?
Detroit wrote:Buy 911s instead of diamonds.
Johnny_P wrote: Thu Feb 09, 2023 3:21 pm Earn it and burn it, Val.
max225 wrote: Mon May 01, 2023 5:35 pm Yes it's a cool car. But prepare the lube/sawdust.
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Desertbreh wrote: Mon Jan 25, 2021 12:58 pm Isn't an E90 M3 :manuel: kind one of the safest relatively low costs bets? Last N/A M3. A good looking car my any measure. Yes, you have to replace the bearings but you could buy a whole spare engine for the cost of one engine out Ferrari service no?
The maintenance costs for those services are quite expensive. Figure about 4-5k for the bearings, and 7-8k for the Ferrari engine out every 3 years.

I don’t like 00-14 bmws, they seem be literally some of the worst built cars known to man.

Also M3s (of that gen) are dime a dozen and not superbly interesting as they are currently on their 5th owners spinning doughnuts in East Oakland.
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max225 wrote: Mon Jan 25, 2021 11:56 am Hmm what about a BMW I8?

https://www.vegasautogallery.com/used-v ... ase-c-410/
I think I8s are hideous. Not interested in one at any price.
Detroit wrote:Buy 911s instead of diamonds.
Johnny_P wrote: Thu Feb 09, 2023 3:21 pm Earn it and burn it, Val.
max225 wrote: Mon May 01, 2023 5:35 pm Yes it's a cool car. But prepare the lube/sawdust.
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max225 wrote: Mon Jan 25, 2021 1:05 pm
Desertbreh wrote: Mon Jan 25, 2021 12:58 pm Isn't an E90 M3 :manuel: kind one of the safest relatively low costs bets? Last N/A M3. A good looking car my any measure. Yes, you have to replace the bearings but you could buy a whole spare engine for the cost of one engine out Ferrari service no?
The maintenance costs for those services are quite expensive. Figure about 4-5k for the bearings, and 7-8k for the Ferrari engine out every 3 years.

I don’t like 00-14 bmws, they seem be literally some of the worst built cars known to man.

Also M3s (of that gen) are dime a dozen and not superbly interesting as they are currently on their 5th owners spinning doughnuts in East Oakland.
I rarely see them but noted and I will not speak of it again.
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max225 wrote: Mon May 01, 2023 5:35 pm Yes it's a cool car. But prepare the lube/sawdust.
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https://www.ebay.com/itm/2017-Lotus-Evo ... SwqNVf~r5J

Edit: Cool car but automatic. Who orders an automatic Lotus?
Detroit wrote:Buy 911s instead of diamonds.
Johnny_P wrote: Thu Feb 09, 2023 3:21 pm Earn it and burn it, Val.
max225 wrote: Mon May 01, 2023 5:35 pm Yes it's a cool car. But prepare the lube/sawdust.
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Desertbreh wrote: Mon Jan 25, 2021 1:15 pm https://www.ebay.com/itm/2017-Lotus-Evo ... SwqNVf~r5J

Edit: Cool car but automatic. Who orders an automatic Lotus?
I wouldn't buy an auto, but it's cool overall.

IIRC, the Evora was one of the first Lotus cars offered in auto?
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Detroit wrote: Mon Jan 25, 2021 1:30 pm
Desertbreh wrote: Mon Jan 25, 2021 1:15 pm https://www.ebay.com/itm/2017-Lotus-Evo ... SwqNVf~r5J

Edit: Cool car but automatic. Who orders an automatic Lotus?
I wouldn't buy an auto, but it's cool overall.

IIRC, the Evora was one of the first Lotus cars offered in auto?
Makes sense.
Detroit wrote:Buy 911s instead of diamonds.
Johnny_P wrote: Thu Feb 09, 2023 3:21 pm Earn it and burn it, Val.
max225 wrote: Mon May 01, 2023 5:35 pm Yes it's a cool car. But prepare the lube/sawdust.
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Desertbreh wrote: Mon Jan 25, 2021 1:15 pm https://www.ebay.com/itm/2017-Lotus-Evo ... SwqNVf~r5J

Edit: Cool car but automatic. Who orders an automatic Lotus?
Some people love their wife or didn't have a dad.
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max225 wrote: Mon Jan 25, 2021 1:43 pm
Desertbreh wrote: Mon Jan 25, 2021 1:15 pm https://www.ebay.com/itm/2017-Lotus-Evo ... SwqNVf~r5J

Edit: Cool car but automatic. Who orders an automatic Lotus?
Some people love their wife or didn't have a dad.
:impressive: response to rhetorical question.
Detroit wrote:Buy 911s instead of diamonds.
Johnny_P wrote: Thu Feb 09, 2023 3:21 pm Earn it and burn it, Val.
max225 wrote: Mon May 01, 2023 5:35 pm Yes it's a cool car. But prepare the lube/sawdust.
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