Replacing the FiST: What does the collective say?

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Huckleberry wrote: Mon Jan 11, 2021 12:59 pm
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Stinger is the car everyone said they'd buy and didn't. It's why we can't have nice things.
If they offered the thing with a :manuel:, it would have been on my radar when I was looking.

The G70 with a stick was so damn rare, that the closest one to me at the time was like 300 miles away.
Interesting. They sold 100 apparently and discontinued it... but it sounds like that was a misleading figure if they weren't actually available anywhere. Kind of like Max's Tacoma :dill: , sometimes :manuel: is actually desired but you can't find one even if the allegedly exist.
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D Griff wrote: Mon Jan 11, 2021 1:09 pm
Huckleberry wrote: Mon Jan 11, 2021 12:59 pm

If they offered the thing with a :manuel:, it would have been on my radar when I was looking.

The G70 with a stick was so damn rare, that the closest one to me at the time was like 300 miles away.
Interesting. They sold 100 apparently and discontinued it... but it sounds like that was a misleading figure if they weren't actually available anywhere. Kind of like Max's Tacoma :dill: , sometimes :manuel: is actually desired but you can't find one even if the allegedly exist.
That’s the problem. Dealers do the ordering and hate when a vehicle sits so they shy away from ordering manuals. Too bad when someone actually wants one, they can’t find one. And worse in the case of Toyota because you can’t even order one.
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D Griff wrote: Mon Jan 11, 2021 1:09 pm
Huckleberry wrote: Mon Jan 11, 2021 12:59 pm

If they offered the thing with a :manuel:, it would have been on my radar when I was looking.

The G70 with a stick was so damn rare, that the closest one to me at the time was like 300 miles away.
Interesting. They sold 100 apparently and discontinued it... but it sounds like that was a misleading figure if they weren't actually available anywhere. Kind of like Max's Tacoma :dill: , sometimes :manuel: is actually desired but you can't find one even if the allegedly exist.
VW and Subaru dealers, at least around here, are the only places I've experienced to have :manuels: readily in stock for test drives. Even with the Mustang, the Ford dealer had to pull it out of the showroom when I looked at one since it was the only one they had in stick. And it isn't like it was a small dealer with two Mustangs. There had to have been 30 or so lined up on the lot.
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Huckleberry wrote: Mon Jan 11, 2021 1:25 pm
D Griff wrote: Mon Jan 11, 2021 1:09 pm

Interesting. They sold 100 apparently and discontinued it... but it sounds like that was a misleading figure if they weren't actually available anywhere. Kind of like Max's Tacoma :dill: , sometimes :manuel: is actually desired but you can't find one even if the allegedly exist.
VW and Subaru dealers, at least around here, are the only places I've experienced to have :manuels: readily in stock for test drives. Even with the Mustang, the Ford dealer had to pull it out of the showroom when I looked at one since it was the only one they had in stick. I always like the salesman who try to say driving one of their automatic cars will be the same experience. Negatory.
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I know multiple people here who have purchased basic Jettas in :manuel: , VW is good for that. Our Ford/Chevy places have :manuel: available for Camaro/Mustang, Mazderp also seems to have them in 3s and Miatas.
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4zilch wrote: Mon Jan 11, 2021 1:03 pm
[user not found] wrote: Mon Jan 11, 2021 12:55 pm I’m gonna play the wildcard here: JCW Clubman or Countryman.
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I enjoy wildcards
Especially those. :notbad: to consider.
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The upcoming Toyota hot hatchback... seems like a solid contender
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coogles wrote: Mon Jan 11, 2021 12:11 pm Looks like you can juuuuust fit a GS-F under the $50k budget. :doit:

https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/deta ... /overview/

IS350 F-Sport would be nice if it had a better motor.
I wish that these could be had at half the price, even with higher mileage they're rare and pricey. Great car with a nice power plant, IMO.

A non-kid scenario would have me look at the smaller IS-F, or M2 which is a really nice car and seems like a great blend between really good performance, looks and luxury.
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coogles wrote: Mon Jan 11, 2021 12:11 pm Looks like you can juuuuust fit a GS-F under the $50k budget. :doit:

https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/deta ... /overview/

IS350 F-Sport would be nice if it had a better motor.
Man GS-F, seems fairly pricy still... 5 model years old and well above 50% of what it was new. GS has notoriously high depreciation along with LS.

I like em A LOT :like:
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max225 wrote: Mon Jan 11, 2021 4:27 pm
coogles wrote: Mon Jan 11, 2021 12:11 pm Looks like you can juuuuust fit a GS-F under the $50k budget. :doit:

https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/deta ... /overview/

IS350 F-Sport would be nice if it had a better motor.
Man GS-F, seems fairly pricy still... 5 model years old and well above 50% of what it was new. GS has notoriously high depreciation along with LS.

I like em A LOT :like:
Pre facelift IS-Fs are still upper 20's at the bottom.... Crazy
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The new GLA45 starts at 54k... 382hp

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Or wait a year until the CLA45 AMG with Dynamic package is 50k or less. 421hp with dat DRIFT mode
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max225 wrote: Mon Jan 11, 2021 2:52 pm The upcoming Toyota hot hatchback... seems like a solid contender
This is a good suggestion as well. Particularly if it gets AWD (I’ve read conflicting reports)
As the only published author in a well-known motorcycle publication in the room...
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CaleDeRoo wrote: Mon Jan 11, 2021 8:38 pm The new GLA45 starts at 54k... 382hp

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Or wait a year until the CLA45 AMG with Dynamic package is 50k or less. 421hp with dat DRIFT mode
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Would probably look at the previous gen - a bit less SUV-ee. It’s too bad we don’t get the A hatch here.
As the only published author in a well-known motorcycle publication in the room...
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[user not found] wrote: Mon Jan 11, 2021 10:39 pm
CaleDeRoo wrote: Mon Jan 11, 2021 8:38 pm The new GLA45 starts at 54k... 382hp

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Or wait a year until the CLA45 AMG with Dynamic package is 50k or less. 421hp with dat DRIFT mode
That looks... off.
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I don't find it to be an unattractive car, but it is moving way closer to minivan than hot hatch in appearance. I like that the outgoing gen really looks more rally-car than CUV.
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4zilch wrote: Tue Jan 12, 2021 6:30 am
CaleDeRoo wrote: Mon Jan 11, 2021 8:38 pm The new GLA45 starts at 54k... 382hp

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Or wait a year until the CLA45 AMG with Dynamic package is 50k or less. 421hp with dat DRIFT mode
:notbad:

Would probably look at the previous gen - a bit less SUV-ee. It’s too bad we don’t get the A hatch here.
Agree the A hatch is a looker.
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+1 for A hatch fan, and previous gen >> new one, per Zil's pics above.
:wap: Where are these mangos?
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The new STI is getting 315 HP, I read that they are 2021 models. If it is of interest I'd burn more miles up on the Fiesta for another year and check out all the new metal on the market.
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AMG Mercedes of some flavor.
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Melon wrote: Tue Jan 12, 2021 2:22 pm AMG Mercedes of some flavor.
There are many flavors.
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Desertbreh wrote: Tue Jan 12, 2021 2:26 pm
Melon wrote: Tue Jan 12, 2021 2:22 pm AMG Mercedes of some flavor.
There are many flavors.
True, I'd encourage him to go walk a lot, or walk one online and see. There's used CPO sedans, coupes, convertibles, quite a few to choose from.
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Panamera
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Melon wrote: Tue Jan 12, 2021 2:40 pmPanamera
I think Fled has pretty much painted a used Panamera as a money pit of epic proportion.
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max225 wrote: Mon May 01, 2023 5:35 pm Yes it's a cool car. But prepare the lube/sawdust.
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Melon wrote: Tue Jan 12, 2021 2:22 pm AMG Mercedes of some flavor.
Is a C43 AMG and AMG or no? That's been the raging debate as of late. AMG is now a badge slapped on 1/2 of their line up.
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Desertbreh wrote: Tue Jan 12, 2021 3:11 pm
Melon wrote: Tue Jan 12, 2021 2:40 pmPanamera
I think Fled has pretty much painted a used Panamera as a money pit of epic proportion.
If you're dumb enough to take it to a dealer and send the entire service department on a vacation every 30k miles sure.
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Desertbreh wrote: Tue Jan 12, 2021 3:11 pm
Melon wrote: Tue Jan 12, 2021 2:40 pmPanamera
I think Fled has pretty much painted a used Panamera as a money pit of epic proportion.
Having discussed the prospect of even a CPO Panamera with the fledster, this is accurate. I wouldn’t be going near them.
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ANy AMG with a V8 is pretty damn badass if you don't care about :manuel:

I never heard back from him on what level car constitutes "too flashy" for clients. Merc/BMW are not Porsche level, but still a bit :fancy: particularly for blue collar people that I assume make up the CUmmins customer base.
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