Do I dare sell the 4Runner?!

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Another example, look at how much more Alan enjoys my old 328i than I did... I found that car boring as shit, but low and behold, with square tires and some more powah, it is rather fun. I bet he makes it much longer than my 20 months or whatever.
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Interesting. Varies by person.
Desertbreh wrote: Tue Oct 10, 2017 6:40 pm My guess would be that Chris took some time off because he has read the dialogue on this page 1,345 times and decided to spend some of his free time doing something besides beating a horse to death.
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D Griff wrote: Thu Oct 01, 2020 1:27 pm Another example, look at how much more Alan enjoys my old 328i than I did... I found that car boring as shit, but low and behold, with square tires and some more powah, it is rather fun. I bet he makes it much longer than my 20 months or whatever.
You could have done those mods and kept it longer...
Desertbreh wrote: Tue Oct 10, 2017 6:40 pm My guess would be that Chris took some time off because he has read the dialogue on this page 1,345 times and decided to spend some of his free time doing something besides beating a horse to death.
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max225 wrote: Thu Oct 01, 2020 1:25 pm
D Griff wrote: Thu Oct 01, 2020 1:25 pm

:wrong:
time to K09 the 4R only way it'll get kept.
:rolleyes: Both proponents of modding here, Coog's and myself acknowledged that you can absolutely go to far. A $60K GTI is way more :poop: than a $60K Porsche, Corvette, or GT350. But a $32K GTI versus a $27K GTI ($5K in mods) gets you a much more fun and unique car. My $28K :poorvette: is a track beast and I blow by all sorts of :fancy: AMGs, Quadrigfoglios and other shit when they break on every track day, but I invested some time/money into making my car more robust, it works. With a little bit of thought and money into it, it is actually better on the street AND the track, than OEM.
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Modding the 4Runner doesn’t make me want to keep it, I like my setup and I want to keep it. It’s not like I’m changing to different vehicle is the itch to upgrade, I just want a no miles version of what I already have. Theres some more in-depth mods that require some cutting that are planned, the smash or pass dilemma only effects the timeline of how soon I do them - the current vehicle from this platform or a new vehicle of this platform. The mods don’t make me want to keep it longer, the fact that it’s perfect for what I want to do does. Jeep, Bronco, Taco... they can all S a D!

And chain drive 2.0 tune issues derive more from exposing shit parts on a kinda crappy engines, but there is absolutely merit behind the claim that tuner companies don’t but anywhere near the amount of R&D into their tunes as an OEM.
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So I think I’m like 80% sure I’m going to keep the current 4R.
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Dbest wrote: Fri Oct 09, 2020 12:20 pm So I think I’m like 80% sure I’m going to keep the current 4R.
This is probably the right answer.
Desertbreh wrote: Tue Oct 10, 2017 6:40 pm My guess would be that Chris took some time off because he has read the dialogue on this page 1,345 times and decided to spend some of his free time doing something besides beating a horse to death.
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max225 wrote: Thu Oct 01, 2020 12:09 pm
D Griff wrote: Thu Oct 01, 2020 12:05 pm

There's a place where :tuna: goes to far. I did get super annoyed with Gramble's back in the day for constantly talking about how shitty GTIs/VWs were because his car with $10K in mods, a larger turbo, etc. required more maintenance than a stock Civic Si. :disgust:

That said, I think just about every member of this forum has tuned a turbo car and I don't recall anyone ever having a single issue outside of needing a clutch upgrade on a GTI, which isn't really an issue, just a component known to not be able to handle 25% more power than stock. That said, my tuned GTI's stock clutch never slipped.
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Same ol... Grables
Chris with the slippy ol clutch
That one dude with the S3 (Chicago) that overheated his DSGAY
Popped PCV valves
Popped coils ets

all those things are side effects of TUNEZ. Are they not real issues to you?
The K04 GTI was and is a super fun car when it worked. But you can't expect Toyota reliability on such an adventure.
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Detroit wrote: Fri Oct 09, 2020 12:39 pm
Dbest wrote: Fri Oct 09, 2020 12:20 pm So I think I’m like 80% sure I’m going to keep the current 4R.
This is probably the right answer.

I’m thinking it is. I’m starting to plan for freshening things up a bit and the next round of mods, I’m looking at dumping another 7-8K into this one, from there it should be good to go long term with the exception of gears if we do eventually add an offroad trailer.
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Dbest wrote: Fri Oct 09, 2020 2:38 pm
Detroit wrote: Fri Oct 09, 2020 12:39 pm
This is probably the right answer.

I’m thinking it is. I’m starting to plan for freshening things up a bit and the next round of mods, I’m looking at dumping another 7-8K into this one, from there it should be good to go long term with the exception of gears if we do eventually add an offroad trailer.
:fuckyeah: I think it's a win-win honestly, but this is what I would do. Should be fun to dive a bit deeper into the current rig, and I don't see why it can't last 400K miles with your level of maintenance.
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I thought I'd give an update on this. 

I kept the current 4Runner and got back to work on it. Towards the end of summer, I noticed that with very hot ambient temps and idling in a drive-thru the coolant temp would creep up over normal, not flat out overheat but it got warmer than it should. I dug into it and found pretty much 1/3 of the radiator's surface area was covered with dead grass and muddy gunk built up.
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All in all, I cleaned out about 2.5 handfuls of this
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Since I was in there I decided to refresh the cooling system - new OEM water pump, thermostat, thermostat housing, radiator cap (not shown), fan clutch, serp belt, coolant and did plugs while I was in the engine bay
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The drivers side rear spark plug had just a little bit of oil on the top of the plug
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So I pulled the top apart and resealed the valve covers, the oil control ports, the VVT oil pressure feeds, spark plug tubes, intake manifold, throttle body, etc. and replaced the PCV valve
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That's clean for any age, let alone 10 years and 140K
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I replaced the dead clock spring (picture provided by my 4 year old, he wanted to document the replacement with his kids cam)
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I knocked out a bunch of routine maintenance
-Replaced OEM front brake pad anti-rattle shims and clips
-Cleaned and lubed the front brakes
-Installed Toytec stainless steel brake lines all around
-Replaced OEM rear pads pad anti-rattle shims and slides
-Cleaned and lubed the rear brakes
-Adjusted parking brake tension
-Brake fluid flush
-Rear differential service
-Center differential service
-Front differential service
-Full transmission service
-Tire rotation
-Engine air filter
-Cabin air filter
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With the boring stuff out of the way, I dug into some of the fun stuff starting with a complete suspension overhaul in preparation for added weight. 

Front end:
-Rebuilt and revalved the kings for the new spring rates
-New 600# King springs
-Rebuilt the JBA upper control arms with the updated ball joints, boots, and bushings
-New Superpro lower control arms with uprated ball joints and new bushings and cam bolts
-SS brake lines mentioned earlier
-Overland Designed forged balljoint sway bar links
-ARK full coverage splash gaurds

Rear end:
-Rebuilt and revalved the kings for the new spring rates
-New Toytec Superflex XD rear long travel springs
-Dobinsons adjustable heavy duty rear track bar
-Dobinsons adjustable heavy duty rear upper control arms
-Dobinsons adjustable heavy dutyrear lower control arms
-SS brake lines mentioned earlier
-Overland Designed forged balljoint sway bar links

Cutting seized parts off
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protip: it cant corrode if moisture cant get to it
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bigger, stronger, and adjustable, with more articulation and higher clearance
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Then the added weight

Southern Style Offroad Trailgator rear bumper with swing arm
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The install was straightforward but the wiring was a full custom job.
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Then it was onto a Hefty Fabworks aluminum plate front bumper with a prerunner hoop and Shrockworks lower profile trail rocker panels
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pumper mounted up with a Warn winch, synthetic line, flat link, and the Bajas converted to flush mount
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The bumper is technically for the facelift 5th gen so you lose turn signal/marker light housings, I used KC Cyclone amber rock lights in the recessed area that aligns with the "fangs" on the 2014+ that are the front turn signals and parking/marker lights with some Morimoto resistor packs to fix the hyperblink.
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With rock chips and stress cracks mixed with the extensive hazing, I went ahead and bought new OEM lights (the smoked trail version instead of the chrome)
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I even went ahead and marked the hotspot in order to align the new lights correctly to the old lights (that I had actually aligned using a headlight aligner), I know.... properly aligned headlights?! Who would want that?
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With the front bumper on you need to extensively trim back the fender liners, because that's where the air intake gets its fresh air source I did a little bit of testing in some sloppy stuff and found with the trimmed liners water/mud/slop was making its way into the air box.
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So I made a couple of potent boozy drinks for some liquid courage
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And gave her hell
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Then verified the water issue was solved
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I gave my new springs time to settle, got the tent back on, readjusted ride height, and then dialed in my alignment for the final time. The rear links are only adjustable 1 full rotation at a time so you don’t have superfine adjustment, but I’m very happy with how it all came out. Almost no thrust angle in the rear, front camber is just a hair negative, more caster than stock to keep stability with the higher center of gravity, and more caster on the right to make it less susceptible to road crown. I had to torch the jamb nuts on the tie rods but got the toe spot on as well. It came out perfect.

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From there it was time to get out and enjoy it.
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As it sits (roughly) today with without a single modifcation that doesnt serve a functional prupose.

2011 Toyota 4Runner Limited

Exterior/Protection:
-Hefty Fabworks aluminum plate prerunner hoop front bumper
-Southern Style Offroad Trailgator rear bumper with tailgate, tire carrier swing arm, and back up camera and rear plate relocation
-Expedition Essentials Propane Bottle Quick Mount
-Wellington 11 lb propane tank
-Southern Style Off-Road full length roof rack
-iKamper Skycamper 4X hardshell rooftop tent in Rocky Black bedliner finish
-Shrockworks Trail rocker panel trims
-ARB Safari snorkel
-RCI Metalworks aluminum engine skid plate
-RCI Metalworks aluminum transmission skid plate
-RCI Metalworks aluminum transfer skid plate with crossmember brace
-RCI Metalworks aluminum fuel tank skid plate (not installed yet, shipping snafu sent it to the wrong place)
-RCI Metalworks 20° rock sliders
-Shrockworks Trail rocker panel trim
-Finn Fab hood rack with traction board mounts
-Bullet Proof Fabrications rear King rock protection shin guards
-ARK full coverage splash guards
-Matte gray TRD Pro 17” wheels
-Nitto Ridge Grappler 255/80/17 E
-Full size matching 5th wheel and tire
-New OEM ‘14+ taillights
-New OEM ‘10-‘13 Trail headlights
-Phillips Vision LED reverse light bulbs
-Phillips Vision LED puddle light bulbs
-Thule T2 XTR 916 & 918 bike carriers
-Debadged “Limited” emblems

Suspension:
-King OEM Series 2.5” front remote reservoir, custom valved, extended travel coilovers
-King 3-14-600 front springs
-Superpro front lower control arms
-JBA caster corrected upper control arms
-JBA upgraded Cerakote coated high articulation upper ball joints with the new style accordion boots
-JBA upgraded EZ Lube upper control arm bushings
-Overland Custom Design adjustable forged ball joint front sway bar links
-DuroBumps front bump stops
-Toytec stainless steel extended front brake lines
-King OEM 2.5” rear remote reservoir, custom valved, extended travel, custom length shocks
-Toytec Superflex Extra Duty rear springs
-Dobinsons adjustable rear track bar
-Dobinsons adjustable rear upper control arms
-Dobinsons adjustable rear lower control arms
-OME 10mm trim pack spacer
-Overland Custom Design adjustable forged ball joint rear sway bar links
-DuroBumps rear bump stopsToytec stainless steel extended rear brake lines

Electrical Setup:
-X2 Power (Northstar rebranded for Batteries Plus) BCI Group 24F 76ah AGM dual purpose starter battery
-Arc Light LEDS voltage booster for AGM batteries
-C4 Fabrication passenger firewall battery tray
-Vmax Charge Tanks BCI Group 24 SLR85 85ah deep cycle accessory battery
-RedArc BCDC1225D 12volt 25amp dual input DC and Solar onboard charger
-NOCO Genius Gen 2 10 amp 2 bank shore power battery charger
-BlueSea CB285-40 40 Amp Circuit Breaker (x2)
-BlueSea 7615 Low Voltage Disconnect
-Shrockworks Power Distribution Module tray
-Bussman 15305-5-2-4 RTMR Power Distribution Module
-BlueSea CB285-80 80 Amp Circuit Breaker
-BlueSea 100 amp common busbar (x2)
-Contura II switches and Blue Sea 1039 dual USB fast charger custom fitted to new OEM 2014+ dash cubby
-Custom plug and play wiring harness made with TXL spec wire, Metri-Pack 280 series, Delphi Weather Pack, Molex Mini fit Jr, and Anderson SB50 terminals, seals, and housings
-Baja Design Squadron Pro amber driving/combo flush mounts
-Baja Designs S2 Pro amber wide cornering lights on Cali Raised low profile ditch light brackets
-Baja Design S2 Sport white passenger side reverse light
-Baja Design S2 Sport red drivers side rear foglight
-Aurora LED roof rack flush-mounted scene camping lights (2 per side)
-Roof Top Tent Electrical Box - controls rack camping lights, tent power outlets, red interior tent lights, and white interior tent lights
-Dometic CFX35W refrigerator
-Overland Solar BugOut 130 solar blanket
-Radiantz LED rear plate frame/light relocated to swing arm

Powertrain:
-K&N drop in air filter
-Fujimoto oil drain valve
-ARB rear diff breather

Interior:
-Weather Tech floor liners
-Canvas Back cargo area liner
-ARC Light LEDs Icarus eXtreme white/red map lights
-ARC Light LEDs Icarus eXtreme white/red dome light
-ARC Light LEDs Icarus eXtreme white/red rear hatch lights
-OEM cargo area retractable cover
-DFG Offroad FX35/40 fridge slide with custom mounting plate
-Raingler attic storage
-Heat Shield sunshades for all windows

Recovery/Emergency:
-Warn Evo VR 10K winch w/ synthetic line
-Factor 55 flat link
-Factor 55 cable protector
-Arb tree saver
-Maxtrax MKII
-ARB Weekender Recovery Kit
-ARB E-Z Deflator
-Smittybuilt 5.65 CFM 12v portable air compressor
-Boulder Tools heavy duty tire repair kit
-Adventure Tool Company tool roll with Icon tools
-Garmin InReach Mini
-Emergency kit: Life Straw, Light My Fire Swedish FireSteel, knife, folding wood saw, hatchet, manual chain saw, small shovel, Adventure Medical Kit Mountain Weekender, emergency blanket, tarp, stormproof matches, toilet paper, tarp, self contained Jet Boil, emergency meals, 400 watt space heater (compatible with OEM power inverter), extension cord, collapsable bucket, gorilla tape, self-vulcanizing emergency tape, zip ties, gloves, hand warmers, foot warmers, emergency blanket, storm whistle, raincoat, lighter, grill lighter, no rinse shower wipes, camp suds biodegradable soap, hand sanitizer, sanitizing wipes, paper maps, etc.

Miscellaneous:
-Trasharoo
-Nemo Roamer sleeping pad
-North Face One Bag sleeping bag
-Jetboil Genesis Basecamp stove
-Lava Box Vol-CAN-no ammo can fire pit
-REI Flexlite Air camping chair
-Adventure Tool Company Camp Kitchen bag
-Upgraded rear hatch struts
-iKamper Skycamp 4X awning with upgraded poles
-iKamper Skycamp 4X winter liner
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This is an epic update! :fuckyeah:
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:fuckyeah: great view and spot for camping. That setup is amazing!

side note, and two beers for lunch (forgive my lack of filter :lol: ) :
Wife going to need to pull those yoga pants WAAY up if you're planning on capitalizing on 'Gram :likes: and :follows:
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Nice pics!
man that’s a loooooooong list of mods
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:nice: pics and 5/7 update, dude. I'm guessing you don't miss Chicago much. :lol:
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coogles wrote: Fri Jun 11, 2021 12:17 pm:neat: !
Apex wrote: Fri Jun 11, 2021 12:22 pm This is an epic update! :fuckyeah:
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Tarspin wrote: Fri Jun 11, 2021 12:31 pm :fuckyeah: great view and spot for camping. That setup is amazing!

side note, and two beers for lunch (forgive my lack of filter :lol: ) :
Wife going to need to pull those yoga pants WAAY up if you're planning on capitalizing on 'Gram :likes: and :follows:
Ready for the M. Night Shyamalan plot twist.... That's the girlfriend not the wife! :shock:
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Dbest wrote: Fri Jun 11, 2021 12:55 pm
Tarspin wrote: Fri Jun 11, 2021 12:31 pm :fuckyeah: great view and spot for camping. That setup is amazing!

side note, and two beers for lunch (forgive my lack of filter :lol: ) :
Wife going to need to pull those yoga pants WAAY up if you're planning on capitalizing on 'Gram :likes: and :follows:
Ready for the M. Night Shyamalan plot twist.... That's the girlfriend not the wife! :shock:
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