Detroit wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 2:38 pm
For what? Range? Lack of shifting?
I'm with Pex, give me a bigass fuel tank to fill with 87 so I can drive forever. That's the one option I really regret missing on the CT...33 gal fuel tank.
With the premium on diesel fuel and newer fast shifting/good geared transmissions, I'd argue that gas is preferred.
I may be singing a different tune in a month when I'm towing a 4k boat and trailer across the country.
The Pentastar is BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRING corporate drone engine. Diesel Rubi JL or JT has cachet bro. Second only to 392. Don't even care about your logical arguments.
Desertbreh wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2017 6:40 pm
My guess would be that Chris took some time off because he has read the dialogue on this page 1,345 times and decided to spend some of his free time doing something besides beating a horse to death.
Detroit wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 2:38 pm
For what? Range? Lack of shifting?
I'm with Pex, give me a bigass fuel tank to fill with 87 so I can drive forever. That's the one option I really regret missing on the CT...33 gal fuel tank.
With the premium on diesel fuel and newer fast shifting/good geared transmissions, I'd argue that gas is preferred.
I may be singing a different tune in a month when I'm towing a 4k boat and trailer across the country.
I think you'll have some qualms with the 3.21 gears, if you had gone with 3.73s you'd be better suited for towing.
But that 8-speed auto is a peach. When I pulled the tiny glamper with the Trailcock, it was almost like it wasn't even there. You feel it with the Tacoma.
I expect to be towing with the 3.21 gears, but I'm really amazed at how the excellent transmission makes up for it around town unloaded, so I might not be forced to kill myself immediately with the boat hitched up. The JT towed the glamper without issue even though the transmission danced like crazy...it wasn't really that noticable.
There's 3 gear options for the CT: 3.21, 3.55, and 3.91. I think the 3.55's are probably the right balance of everything, but we'll see. If ordering this thing again, I'd add the 33 gal tank and 3.55 gears. Done.
Desertbreh wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2017 6:40 pm
My guess would be that Chris took some time off because he has read the dialogue on this page 1,345 times and decided to spend some of his free time doing something besides beating a horse to death.
I remember this write up, something must have been up with the truck. Those towing complaints seemed seriously
I towed with my JT constantly, mostly the 3k glamper, but also tandem axle uhaul trailers probably hauling more than they were, and had none of the issues they did. I did once load the uhaul trailer wrong (too much weight behind the trailer axle) which resulted in some scary moments, but that would have happened with any tow vehicle...that was my own fault.
Desertbreh wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2017 6:40 pm
My guess would be that Chris took some time off because he has read the dialogue on this page 1,345 times and decided to spend some of his free time doing something besides beating a horse to death.
Detroit wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 4:55 pm
I expect to be towing with the 3.21 gears, but I'm really amazed at how the excellent transmission makes up for it around town unloaded, so I might not be forced to kill myself immediately with the boat hitched up. The JT towed the glamper without issue even though the transmission danced like crazy...it wasn't really that noticable.
There's 3 gear options for the CT: 3.21, 3.55, and 3.91. I think the 3.55's are probably the right balance of everything, but we'll see. If ordering this thing again, I'd add the 33 gal tank and 3.55 gears. Done.
Oh, you can even spec a bigger tank on the 1500?
Yep, 33 gal is an option on 1500's (actually, maybe just the Tradesman? I'll have to look). 23 gal is standard, and I think it's too small. I just missed the option check when I ordered the truck
Desertbreh wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2017 6:40 pm
My guess would be that Chris took some time off because he has read the dialogue on this page 1,345 times and decided to spend some of his free time doing something besides beating a horse to death.
I have a desire to hit up [user not found] and see how much an AWE tread exhaust will run me for the JT. Video clips on their website makes it sound nice. about a 5” tip doe.
Apex wrote: ↑Thu Mar 11, 2021 3:37 pm
I have a desire to hit up [user not found] and see how much an AWE tread exhaust will run me for the JT. Video clips on their website makes it sound nice. about a 5” tip doe.
Ehhhhh I dunno. I personally think the JT sounds pretty good for what it is, and the entire point of an exhaust in a Jeep is to GTFO of the way of stuff, which the factory exhaust does well. I like the exhaust tip completely hidden because it's functional. Hanging a fancy tip off the end is just
Desertbreh wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2017 6:40 pm
My guess would be that Chris took some time off because he has read the dialogue on this page 1,345 times and decided to spend some of his free time doing something besides beating a horse to death.
Apex wrote: ↑Thu Mar 11, 2021 3:37 pm
I have a desire to hit up [user not found] and see how much an AWE tread exhaust will run me for the JT. Video clips on their website makes it sound nice. about a 5” tip doe.
Ehhhhh I dunno. I personally think the JT sounds pretty good for what it is, and the entire point of an exhaust in a Jeep is to GTFO of the way of stuff, which the factory exhaust does well. I like the exhaust tip completely hidden because it's functional. Hanging a fancy tip off the end is just
This tucks the exhaust right up behind the rear wheel. Looks like a pretty good spot for it. musings from me. I think some ATs will be next, or a steel rear bumper.
Detroit wrote: ↑Thu Mar 11, 2021 4:13 pm
Ehhhhh I dunno. I personally think the JT sounds pretty good for what it is, and the entire point of an exhaust in a Jeep is to GTFO of the way of stuff, which the factory exhaust does well. I like the exhaust tip completely hidden because it's functional. Hanging a fancy tip off the end is just
This tucks the exhaust right up behind the rear wheel. Looks like a pretty good spot for it. musings from me. I think some ATs will be next, or a steel rear bumper.
I'd focus funds on more functional spending, like larger tires. But that's just me.
I did some investigations into JT exhausts for but really, the stock is pretty danged good.
Desertbreh wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2017 6:40 pm
My guess would be that Chris took some time off because he has read the dialogue on this page 1,345 times and decided to spend some of his free time doing something besides beating a horse to death.
This tucks the exhaust right up behind the rear wheel. Looks like a pretty good spot for it. musings from me. I think some ATs will be next, or a steel rear bumper.
I'd focus funds on more functional spending, like larger tires. But that's just me.
I did some investigations into JT exhausts for but really, the stock is pretty danged good.
It was just a musing.
I want some 35” ATs next... I’m curious how “quiet” it would get.
Detroit wrote: ↑Thu Mar 11, 2021 4:24 pm
I'd focus funds on more functional spending, like larger tires. But that's just me.
I did some investigations into JT exhausts for but really, the stock is pretty danged good.
It was just a musing.
I want some 35” ATs next... I’m curious how “quiet” it would get.
Chose the right tires, and it shouldn't be too bad IMO.
Desertbreh wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2017 6:40 pm
My guess would be that Chris took some time off because he has read the dialogue on this page 1,345 times and decided to spend some of his free time doing something besides beating a horse to death.
Also broken. Only slightly, but enough that it makes the drivers side headlight useless, thanks to a projector facing far downwards in the housing.
Time to just swap out some bulbs instead.
Not really impressed with DV8 to be honest. The slider rails I ordered are fantastic build quality, but they don’t line up with the holes in the pinch welds requiring two of the holes on each side to be drilled out. Even with that, the front brace/bracket seems like it sits lower than the middle and rear ones do and open up the hole to a bunch of mud and water. I
fledonfoot wrote: ↑Sun Mar 21, 2021 5:10 pm
Second set of DV8 headlight arrived.
Also broken. Only slightly, but enough that it makes the drivers side headlight useless, thanks to a projector facing far downwards in the housing.
Time to just swap out some bulbs instead.
Not really impressed with DV8 to be honest. The slider rails I ordered are fantastic build quality, but they don’t line up with the holes in the pinch welds requiring two of the holes on each side to be drilled out. Even with that, the front brace/bracket seems like it sits lower than the middle and rear ones do and open up the hole to a bunch of mud and water. I
So after she was all cleaned up I hit all the plastic trim (fenders, door handles, tail light surrounds, hood latches, etc.) with this and it did a great job of shining them back up and making them look factory new again. Doubt it lasts longer than a few months, but the cans are cheap enough that I don’t mind going through a couple of them a year to keep it lookin nice.
fledonfoot wrote: ↑Sun Mar 21, 2021 5:10 pm
Second set of DV8 headlight arrived.
Also broken. Only slightly, but enough that it makes the drivers side headlight useless, thanks to a projector facing far downwards in the housing.
Time to just swap out some bulbs instead.
Not really impressed with DV8 to be honest. The slider rails I ordered are fantastic build quality, but they don’t line up with the holes in the pinch welds requiring two of the holes on each side to be drilled out. Even with that, the front brace/bracket seems like it sits lower than the middle and rear ones do and open up the hole to a bunch of mud and water. I
I've heard these sorts of complaints with this company before. Somewhat of a "you get what you pay for" type thing.
Desertbreh wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2017 6:40 pm
My guess would be that Chris took some time off because he has read the dialogue on this page 1,345 times and decided to spend some of his free time doing something besides beating a horse to death.
fledonfoot wrote: ↑Sun Mar 21, 2021 5:10 pm
Second set of DV8 headlight arrived.
Also broken. Only slightly, but enough that it makes the drivers side headlight useless, thanks to a projector facing far downwards in the housing.
Time to just swap out some bulbs instead.
Not really impressed with DV8 to be honest. The slider rails I ordered are fantastic build quality, but they don’t line up with the holes in the pinch welds requiring two of the holes on each side to be drilled out. Even with that, the front brace/bracket seems like it sits lower than the middle and rear ones do and open up the hole to a bunch of mud and water. I
I've heard these sorts of complaints with this company before. Somewhat of a "you get what you pay for" type thing.
The thing is, they’re not cheap. The slider rails I got were $200 more than a similar offering from Westin or HDX and priced on par with NFab. They’re built very well and have good quality finishes... the bolts they use that are welded to the brackets are meaty.
That said, the NFab ones do say drilling is required to oversized the holes.
It’s not the biggest problem to have and I expect that small tweaks need to be made here and there for some of this stuff.
These headlights retail at $750 a set but they’re obviously just rebadged... the DV8 label on the box is just a small 3x5 label haphazardly slapped near/over the Chinese manufacturers label. They look great and the install is super easy... the projectors are just shit.
Once I’m done with the surgery I’ll probably just get the OEM pieces and call it a day.
Detroit wrote: ↑Mon Mar 22, 2021 9:34 am
I've heard these sorts of complaints with this company before. Somewhat of a "you get what you pay for" type thing.
The thing is, they’re not cheap. The slider rails I got were $200 more than a similar offering from Westin or HDX and priced on par with NFab. They’re built very well and have good quality finishes... the bolts they use that are welded to the brackets are meaty.
That said, the NFab ones do say drilling is required to oversized the holes.
It’s not the biggest problem to have and I expect that small tweaks need to be made here and there for some of this stuff.
These headlights retail at $750 a set but they’re obviously just rebadged... the DV8 label on the box is just a small 3x5 label haphazardly slapped near/over the Chinese manufacturers label. They look great and the install is super easy... the projectors are just shit.
Once I’m done with the surgery I’ll probably just get the OEM pieces and call it a day.
The COST on the OEM headlights exceeds $750...so they're likely coming from the same plant, but OEM rejects are sold to DV8 or the supplier is cheapening some element and selling to DV8.
Desertbreh wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2017 6:40 pm
My guess would be that Chris took some time off because he has read the dialogue on this page 1,345 times and decided to spend some of his free time doing something besides beating a horse to death.
towing with the 3.21 gears, but I'm really amazed at how the excellent transmission makes up for it around town unloaded, so I might not be forced to kill myself immediately with the boat hitched up. The JT towed the glamper without issue even though the transmission danced like crazy...it wasn't really that noticable.
desire to hit up [user not found] and see how much an AWE tread exhaust will run me for the JT. Video clips on their website makes it sound nice. 
but really, the stock is pretty danged good.
yesterday and pulled the freedom panels back off.
