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Big Brain Bradley wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2020 11:07 am

the 4 pot in the Supra will be about 230 or 240 hp, and with the extra weight will be same acceleration as Miata. So Miata coupe with longer wheel base
4 cylinder 370Z.
So, a new 240SX?

The current supply is pretty dried up since all of the drift bros keep slamming them into walls.
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Huckleberry wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2020 8:58 pm
[user not found] wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2020 8:44 pm

4 cylinder 370Z.
So, a new 240SX?

The current supply is pretty dried up since all of the drift bros keep slamming them into walls.
I keep wondering why they haven’t started drifting C5s yet.
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Huckleberry wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2020 8:58 pm
[user not found] wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2020 8:44 pm

4 cylinder 370Z.
So, a new 240SX?

The current supply is pretty dried up since all of the drift bros keep slamming them into walls.
I keep wondering why they haven’t started drifting C5s yet.
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D Griff wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2020 9:00 pm
Huckleberry wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2020 8:58 pm

So, a new 240SX?

The current supply is pretty dried up since all of the drift bros keep slamming them into walls.
I keep wondering why they haven’t started drifting C5s yet.
Does that chassis lend itself well to drifting?
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Huckleberry wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2020 9:37 pm
D Griff wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2020 9:00 pm

I keep wondering why they haven’t started drifting C5s yet.
Does that chassis lend itself well to drifting?
no, aluminum and fiberglass. also large turning radius.
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I miss my 240sx :sad:
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Big Brain Bradley wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2020 9:43 pm
Huckleberry wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2020 9:37 pm

Does that chassis lend itself well to drifting?
no, aluminum and fiberglass. also large turning radius.
There are driftbro knuckles and shit already, but even after some articles about it the drift tax never caught on like I thought it would.
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Johnny_P wrote: Tue Feb 18, 2020 8:47 pm
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Sheet metal, steering (for the worse... the BMW steering feels more direct), suspension (the Supra is a super neutrally balanced car), diff and trans tuning, and several hundred million dollars to fund the development. BMW can thank Toyota for the Z4.

I’ve driven both. They may be the same chassis but they have two different personalities and are two distinctly different cars... The difference between Z4 and Supra is far greater than the difference between BRZ and 86.

Is the 86 pathetic because it’s a Toyota tuned Subaru? The differences between those cars are much harder to spot than the Z4/Supra.

This is what I hate about armchair car enthusiasts. Toyota were damned either way with this thing... at Least they’ve brought a niche car to the market for the people that could afford it. It may not be fantastic but it’s a really, very good car for $50k. I hate to break it to you... the Mk4 Supra isn’t anything to write home about either.
This. And you’re likely the only one with any seat time in either a Supra or a new Z4.
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Tarspin wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2020 11:54 pm I miss my 240sx :sad:
I'm sure you can find a mint 250K mile specimen in primer with most of its body panels intact for around $6k on Craigslist.
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Huckleberry wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2020 9:37 pm
D Griff wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2020 9:00 pm

I keep wondering why they haven’t started drifting C5s yet.
Does that chassis lend itself well to drifting?
I honestly know nothing about drifting but it's certainly easy to slide around in and torque everywhere helps. Plus they're cheaper than a similar condition 240SX at this point :lolol:
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Huckleberry wrote: Fri Feb 21, 2020 8:05 am
Tarspin wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2020 11:54 pm I miss my 240sx :sad:
I'm sure you can find a mint 250K mile specimen in primer with most of its body panels intact for around $6k on Craigslist.
These have been $6k since 2002 :mindblown:
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Johnny_P wrote: Fri Feb 21, 2020 12:00 pm
Huckleberry wrote: Fri Feb 21, 2020 8:05 am

I'm sure you can find a mint 250K mile specimen in primer with most of its body panels intact for around $6k on Craigslist.
These have been $6k since 2002 :mindblown:
The Fast & Furious tax has been going strong on the 240SX, MKIV Supra, and FD RX-7 for almost two decades now.

In fact, the Radwood tax was just recently added on top of it.
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Tarspin wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2020 11:54 pm I miss my 240sx :sad:
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Johnny_P wrote: Sat Feb 22, 2020 10:06 am
Tarspin wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2020 11:54 pm I miss my 240sx :sad:
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It was the third car I owned, traded in my 1987 Nissan Sentra in for it in 1997. Mine was a 1990 fastback in red with these wheels, virtually identical to these pictures minus :tints: including tinted tail lights (because I thought that was cool and it didn't cost me much), I changed the head unit and added a sub but basically stock. It really needed an LSD and 140hp was pretty underpowered or so I thought back then. Bucket/cloth seats and kind of enough space for an adult who was willing to straddle the drivers seat. Fast forward a few years, I went home with someone at a nightclub and my two buddies took it back to their place. That night it got rear ended and the frame got twisted but the insurance buy out was pretty good, enter 2000 VW Jetta 2.slow.

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:neat: always loved those.
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Johnny_P wrote: Sat Feb 22, 2020 3:39 pm :neat: always loved those.
They were nice to drive, light clutch, pretty decent build quality and simple. I think a 370Z might be in my future car buying plans, kind of a new age/improved version of the same thing for under 15k
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Yeah I love the 370Z. I’d like to own one someday.
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Tarspin wrote: Sat Feb 22, 2020 2:24 pm
Johnny_P wrote: Sat Feb 22, 2020 10:06 am

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It was the third car I owned, traded in my 1987 Nissan Sentra in for it in 1997. Mine was a 1990 fastback in red with these wheels, virtually identical to these pictures minus :tints: including tinted tail lights (because I thought that was cool and it didn't cost me much), I changed the head unit and added a sub but basically stock. It really needed an LSD and 140hp was pretty underpowered or so I thought back then. Bucket/cloth seats and kind of enough space for an adult who was willing to straddle the drivers seat. Fast forward a few years, I went home with someone at a nightclub and my two buddies took it back to their place. That night it got rear ended and the frame got twisted but the insurance buy out was pretty good, enter 2000 VW Jetta 2.slow.

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:nice:
I miss 2 door sport coupe hatches.
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According to the report, which cites an unnamed source close to Subaru, the company's engineers are hard at work beefing up the FA24 turbocharged boxer to coax 400 horses and 361 pound-feet of torque from an engine that currently offers just 260 horsepower and 277 lb-ft of torque in family-hauling tune.
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Tarspin wrote: Sat Feb 22, 2020 7:17 pm This would be awesome!

https://www.autotrader.ca/a/nissan/370z ... 23&sprx=-1


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I would dump that hood though :disgust: (or paint it).
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If anyone wants 370z info happy to share... having owned one for 2 years.
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D Griff wrote: Mon Feb 24, 2020 1:49 pm
Tarspin wrote: Sat Feb 22, 2020 7:17 pm This would be awesome!

https://www.autotrader.ca/a/nissan/370z ... 23&sprx=-1


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:neat:

I would dump that hood though :disgust: (or paint it).
Yeah that hood sucks. I would probably do more due diligence to get an unmolested version.

I am probably a couple of years away from anything like it. Gorf gets paid off and we will probably pickup a cheaper lease for Nicole, something like a 2020 Santa Fe which gets us a combined $700/month savings and gets us back to debt reduction. Right now we are just breaking even due to self-inflicted financial :seppuku:

I want something non-depreciating, light, and mid-engine and do autox and track events with it. I think this 2/3rds gets a person there for little money and effort. Gen2 MR2 is awesome and somewhat cheap as well but they are older.
My favorite idea is spending twice as much and picking up an Elise. In the end it's sold for purchase price so :whocares:

For now I place the idea into the old spank bank.
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