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Tarspin wrote: Sat Aug 14, 2021 4:23 pm
Irish wrote: Sat Aug 14, 2021 2:28 pm So the T-Reg cost me $550 out of pocket. Windshield, camera calibration and I let them put in overpriced wipers ZFG. What a world we live in where a windshield replacement sets one back over a G.

The Optima $660; turned out to be a fan assembly and resistor that allowed the the refrigerant to overheat and blow out of the a valve somewhere. I no sooner got it home when it threw a code for Knock Sensor. The car is NOT knocking, but the ECU is retarding the timing because of the code. The sensor is on the block behind the Intake Manifold which is probably more than I want to do myself.

My poor kid had to take his driving test (yesterday) in a vehicle that was hesitating like a MF. As soon as the Evaluator got in the car, I cleared the code from afar and the sky opened up into a serious electrical storm. The were only gone for like 10 minutes so I assumed the worst (that he blew the parallel parking right out of the gate). But the torrential downpour turned out to be a blessing, as the woman allowed the turns in the parking lot to "count" and they never even left the parking lot.

I think I was more nervous about the outcome than the kid was (mostly because of the code throwing Korean jalopy) but all's well that ends well....


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I'm not looking forward to that windshield bill, my :gorf: has a crack from top to bottom right down the middle, and I'm toying with dumping some glass filler liquid spooge that they advert on Instagram. I parked up after work today, mainly to book a couple of cottage rentals, and make a bunch of phone calls/emails.... And sure as the sky is blue, the battery died. I had my headlights on accidentally, and ran my phone charger, radio, fans, and the ignition was in the ON position, so it was enough to do in the four year old factory unit. Thankfully, I was parking across the street from a Costco (which I have a membership to), and they had the cheapest of three compatible batteries in stock, $134 minus a $10 trade in if I bring my old one back in. Took one of their carts, grabbed the battery, a kit of water balloons for the kids, a 500g block of Jarlsberg cheese, a bag of brazil nuts, and $30 worth of 1" thick top sirloin grilling steak. The cart is still in a neighboring parking lot, but I'm at home enjoying a cold beer. :fuckyeah: , lemonade out of lemons!
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I'm not looking forward to that windshield bill, my :gorf: has a crack from top to bottom right down the middle, and I'm toying with dumping some glass filler liquid spooge that they advert on Instagram. I parked up after work today, mainly to book a couple of cottage rentals, and make a bunch of phone calls/emails.... And sure as the sky is blue, the battery died. I had my headlights on accidentally, and ran my phone charger, radio, fans, and the ignition was in the ON position, so it was enough to do in the four year old factory unit. Thankfully, I was parking across the street from a Costco (which I have a membership to), and they had the cheapest of three compatible batteries in stock, $134 minus a $10 trade in if I bring my old one back in. Took one of their carts, grabbed the battery, a kit of water balloons for the kids, a 500g block of Jarlsberg cheese, a bag of brazil nuts, and $30 worth of 1" thick top sirloin grilling steak. The cart is still in a neighboring parking lot, but I'm at home enjoying a cold beer. :fuckyeah: , lemonade out of lemons!
Brah, just idle next time. Fuck the planet.
Yeah that's right, lol

Thing is, I'm glad it happened how and when it did. Could've easily been in the work parking lot and I'd have to uber myself to the nearest store and back. MK7s are funny to watch when the battery power hits 1%, first they think that they've got a parking assist feature, and then one by one every light comes up on the dash until it's a Christmas 🎄 on the inside of that mofo. It ends with just enough power to roll up the windows, and then the car dies.
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Irish wrote: Sat Aug 14, 2021 2:28 pm So the T-Reg cost me $550 out of pocket. Windshield, camera calibration and I let them put in overpriced wipers ZFG. What a world we live in where a windshield replacement sets one back over a G.

The Optima $660; turned out to be a fan assembly and resistor that allowed the the refrigerant to overheat and blow out of the a valve somewhere. I no sooner got it home when it threw a code for Knock Sensor. The car is NOT knocking, but the ECU is retarding the timing because of the code. The sensor is on the block behind the Intake Manifold which is probably more than I want to do myself.

My poor kid had to take his driving test (yesterday) in a vehicle that was hesitating like a MF. As soon as the Evaluator got in the car, I cleared the code from afar and the sky opened up into a serious electrical storm. The were only gone for like 10 minutes so I assumed the worst (that he blew the parallel parking right out of the gate). But the torrential downpour turned out to be a blessing, as the woman allowed the turns in the parking lot to "count" and they never even left the parking lot.

I think I was more nervous about the outcome than the kid was (mostly because of the code throwing Korean jalopy) but all's well that ends well....


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Are you a fucking wizard? :lol:
Glad your kid passed the test, :doe:
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wap wrote: Sat Aug 14, 2021 9:28 pm
Irish wrote: Sat Aug 14, 2021 2:28 pm So the T-Reg cost me $550 out of pocket. Windshield, camera calibration and I let them put in overpriced wipers ZFG. What a world we live in where a windshield replacement sets one back over a G.

The Optima $660; turned out to be a fan assembly and resistor that allowed the the refrigerant to overheat and blow out of the a valve somewhere. I no sooner got it home when it threw a code for Knock Sensor. The car is NOT knocking, but the ECU is retarding the timing because of the code. The sensor is on the block behind the Intake Manifold which is probably more than I want to do myself.

My poor kid had to take his driving test (yesterday) in a vehicle that was hesitating like a MF. As soon as the Evaluator got in the car, I cleared the code from afar and the sky opened up into a serious electrical storm. The were only gone for like 10 minutes so I assumed the worst (that he blew the parallel parking right out of the gate). But the torrential downpour turned out to be a blessing, as the woman allowed the turns in the parking lot to "count" and they never even left the parking lot.

I think I was more nervous about the outcome than the kid was (mostly because of the code throwing Korean jalopy) but all's well that ends well....


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Are you a fucking wizard? :lol:
Glad your kid passed the test, :doe:
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Irish wrote: Mon Aug 16, 2021 4:57 pm
wap wrote: Sat Aug 14, 2021 9:28 pm

Are you a fucking wizard? :lol:
Glad your kid passed the test, :doe:
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Thanks Fappy
I figured it was something like that. Just tried to make a little joke. :(
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This neat infographic that breaks down each manufacturer my valuation speaks for itself.

Race to $1T: The World’s Top Car Manufacturers by Market Cap
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All of the GR86 videos coming out this morning. Do want.
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coogles wrote: Tue Aug 17, 2021 9:47 am All of the GR86 videos coming out this morning. Do want.
Me too.
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D Griff wrote: Tue Aug 17, 2021 11:08 am
coogles wrote: Tue Aug 17, 2021 9:47 am All of the GR86 videos coming out this morning. Do want.
Me too.
Ditto. Like, really want this car for no practical reason whatsoever!
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Tarspin wrote: Tue Aug 17, 2021 11:38 am
D Griff wrote: Tue Aug 17, 2021 11:08 am

Me too.
Ditto. Like, really want this car for no practical reason whatsoever!
Yeah, my only hesitation would be if we produced crotchfruit in the coming years, :iono: that an 86 is optimal. I am guessing based on Coog's story that fitting one baby seat in an 86 is near impossible?
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Tarspin wrote: Tue Aug 17, 2021 3:48 am
This neat infographic that breaks down each manufacturer my valuation speaks for itself.

Race to $1T: The World’s Top Car Manufacturers by Market Cap
https://www.visualcapitalist.com/worlds ... arket-cap/
I feel like it's anyone's guess as to whether they get there or crash in burn in short order. I just saw a large piece on national news this morning re: auto pilot being unsanctioned beta testing on public roads and how there have been hundreds of cases of Tessies slamming into police/medic/fire vehicles parked on shoulders with sirens flashing, etc.

:popcorn:

I saw a friend of mine this weekend who moved to LA to take a job at SpaceX back in January. His stories of "working for Elon" are pretty entertaining. Things like LA county issuing mask mandates and him emailing the entire LA workforce stating that they don't need to wear masks to work and can ignore the mandate :lolol:
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coogles wrote: Tue Aug 17, 2021 9:47 am All of the GR86 videos coming out this morning. Do want.
I feel the opposite now. It looks good from some angles but there's a couple I don't really like, and the noise inside the car.

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My



*Gag*

Not sure why exactly but it's completely repulsive to me. I suddenly care much more about the 400Z.
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CaleDeRoo wrote: Tue Aug 17, 2021 12:35 pm
coogles wrote: Tue Aug 17, 2021 9:47 am All of the GR86 videos coming out this morning. Do want.
I feel the opposite now. It looks good from some angles but there's a couple I don't really like, and the noise inside the car.

Oh



My



*Gag*

Not sure why exactly but it's completely repulsive to me. I suddenly care much more about the 400Z.
I sort of wish that it looked a bit less like the old 86. I mean, the old one was quite attractive, IMO, but this from a looks perspective is barely a refresh. It looks old, but :thisisfine: , still want. At least it will be relatively timeless.

I too look forward to what the Z can offer, but :iono: , I am kind of over turbos.

The 86 just checks all of the boxes for me:
-Really fun on the street/in town/on track
-Manual
-Pretty affordable
-Fuel efficient/comfy enough to take on weekend trips to bike/car/friend shit (longer trips with the wife/dog won't often be in my car regardless)
-Track capable out of the box and low consumables costs
-Would ask basically nothing of me from a maintenance perspective
-Enough cargo space for weekend trips or other things

:iono: no other car does this. The lackluster engine of the outgoing model (particularly coming from a Corvette) kind of killed it for me, but it looks like this new one is sub six to 60 which is :thisisfine:
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The fuel efficiency thing will be interesting. I saw the manual is rated at 19/26/21, but I won't pick apart any of your other points because they are all probably true for your use case. This just happens to be one of those cars that I'm glad it's being produced, but I just have no desire for one. Maybe a drive would change my mind.
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CaleDeRoo wrote: Tue Aug 17, 2021 12:35 pm
coogles wrote: Tue Aug 17, 2021 9:47 am All of the GR86 videos coming out this morning. Do want.
I feel the opposite now. It looks good from some angles but there's a couple I don't really like, and the noise inside the car.

Oh



My



*Gag*

Not sure why exactly but it's completely repulsive to me. I suddenly care much more about the 400Z.
The fake sounds supposedly comes through its own dedicated speaker. Full a fuse, unplug it, whatever...it should be possible to disable that. The 400Z should be great, but a not insignificant part of my enjoying a weekend car will be sharing the experience with my son (who already LOVES cars) and possibly my daughters if they care, which makes any 2-seater a non-starter for me. Still :popcorn: on what the next STi will be like as well, I'm cautiously optimistic Subaru won't incorporate the various safety nannies with a manual trans since they chose not to do so in the Manual BRZ and 86. Hoping the FA24 will have some character to it, I adore the way the EJ drives even if it's expensive to modify and is horribly inefficient.
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coogles wrote: Tue Aug 17, 2021 12:52 pm
CaleDeRoo wrote: Tue Aug 17, 2021 12:35 pm

I feel the opposite now. It looks good from some angles but there's a couple I don't really like, and the noise inside the car.

Oh



My



*Gag*

Not sure why exactly but it's completely repulsive to me. I suddenly care much more about the 400Z.
The fake sounds supposedly comes through its own dedicated speaker. Full a fuse, unplug it, whatever...it should be possible to disable that. The 400Z should be great, but a not insignificant part of my enjoying a weekend car will be sharing the experience with my son (who already LOVES cars) and possibly my daughters if they care, which makes any 2-seater a non-starter for me. Still :popcorn: on what the next STi will be like as well, I'm cautiously optimistic Subaru won't incorporate the various safety nannies with a manual trans since they chose not to do so in the Manual BRZ and 86. Hoping the FA24 will have some character to it, I adore the way the EJ drives even if it's expensive to modify and is horribly inefficient.
I'm assuming your son is now forward facing? If we reproduce, I could see the thing working out for me even if I could fit one seat in the back with the passenger seat moved up. Given it looks like I will be WFH and/or road based for near eternity, I can't imagine I would really need a super practical kid hauler, but I'm sure the possibility of doing it when needed would be a requirement.

I am still pretty much not about two car life if I can avoid it, particularly in my current house.
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CaleDeRoo wrote: Tue Aug 17, 2021 12:51 pm The fuel efficiency thing will be interesting. I saw the manual is rated at 19/26/21, but I won't pick apart any of your other points because they are all probably true for your use case. This just happens to be one of those cars that I'm glad it's being produced, but I just have no desire for one. Maybe a drive would change my mind.
Nothing wrong with that, having choice is a good thing. We all have what we love and what maybe doesn't excite us so much. One that doesn't do it for me for example is the :gorf: . I get why people buy them, it is probably the best jack of all trades vehicle that exists, but just isn't it for me for whatever reason.

My Corvette isn't even gone yet and I already miss the natty V8, you really can't beat the sounds, the smoothness, the durability, the powah, so I can understand why the soundtrack of fake Subaru four cylinder noises is uninspiring for you.
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26 MPG is acceptable to me, I mostly only drive my car highway on trips, my in-city driving is like once a week to the grocery store only.

That is worse than I thought though. My buddy here who had a 2013 FR-S got high twenties consistently around town and about 30 on the highway. Comparatively he now has a Boss 3bro2 and reports getting about 13 :lolol:
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D Griff wrote: Tue Aug 17, 2021 1:07 pm I'm assuming your son is now forward facing? If we reproduce, I could see the thing working out for me even if I could fit one seat in the back with the passenger seat moved up. Given it looks like I will be WFH and/or road based for near eternity, I can't imagine I would really need a super practical kid hauler, but I'm sure the possibility of doing it when needed would be a requirement.

I am still pretty much not about two car life if I can avoid it, particularly in my current house.
Oh yeah, he's been forward-facing for about a year now. I definitely wouldn't suggest an 86 for an only car if you need infant or rear-facing car seats, but it'll take a couple boosters as long as you don't mind the back of the seat being kicked constantly. STi would for sure work better, doe.
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CaleDeRoo wrote: Tue Aug 17, 2021 12:51 pm The fuel efficiency thing will be interesting. I saw the manual is rated at 19/26/21, but I won't pick apart any of your other points because they are all probably true for your use case. This just happens to be one of those cars that I'm glad it's being produced, but I just have no desire for one. Maybe a drive would change my mind.
+1 on all Cale comments. Put STI engine in it and call me tomorrow. In terms of affordable sports cars I would much rather 400Z.
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coogles wrote: Tue Aug 17, 2021 1:15 pm
D Griff wrote: Tue Aug 17, 2021 1:07 pm I'm assuming your son is now forward facing? If we reproduce, I could see the thing working out for me even if I could fit one seat in the back with the passenger seat moved up. Given it looks like I will be WFH and/or road based for near eternity, I can't imagine I would really need a super practical kid hauler, but I'm sure the possibility of doing it when needed would be a requirement.

I am still pretty much not about two car life if I can avoid it, particularly in my current house.
Oh yeah, he's been forward-facing for about a year now. I definitely wouldn't suggest an 86 for an only car if you need infant or rear-facing car seats, but it'll take a couple boosters as long as you don't mind the back of the seat being kicked constantly. STi would for sure work better, doe.
I sit in a 5'1" person's position, so the boosters thing would likely be OK.

:iono: both the possible :baby: and 86 are all just brainstorms at this point anyway, it's just something I'm starting to consider in future car musings. Two cars is such a damn time suck and I hate owning expensive things that are just sitting and getting worse every day while not being used much.
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CaleDeRoo wrote: Tue Aug 17, 2021 12:51 pm The fuel efficiency thing will be interesting. I saw the manual is rated at 19/26/21, but I won't pick apart any of your other points because they are all probably true for your use case. This just happens to be one of those cars that I'm glad it's being produced, but I just have no desire for one. Maybe a drive would change my mind.
+1 on all Cale comments. Put STI engine in it and call me tomorrow. In terms of affordable sports cars I would much rather 400Z.
This will be like +50% cost though, not exactly apples to apples.
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