Car Talk 5: The Juice is Loose!

[D Griff]

So the interesting part is...
Toyota made 2500 of them. And within the last 3 months 3 hit BAT, in THIS EXACT combo (minus trans) 2 out of 250 manuals hit BAT. That is pretty damn insane. This is signaling some sort of bubble imo.

Seems like people are cashing out of these as "collector" items...certainly one sign of a bubble.

I just think back to 08 when used Prius were selling for more than new and worthless Geo Metros were $10k cars. Bubbles burst.

The amount of retail therapy going on right now with almost all Americans is For the first time in my life, we are all purchasing so many goods, that try as they may, manufacturers just can't keep up.

I suspect that when things calm down, a lot of people will own a lot of shit they no longer need/think they need/use, and prices will drop. We will all realize (not us on DFD but collectively as Americans) we actually dont off-road, ride bikes, go camping, live on a lake, you name it. At that point, a lot of these super popular right now items will drop I think.

Still though, something like a super cool/rare spec FJ will always maintain a cult following and good value.

[ChrisoftheNorth]

Seems like people are cashing out of these as "collector" items...certainly one sign of a bubble.

I just think back to 08 when used Prius were selling for more than new and worthless Geo Metros were $10k cars. Bubbles burst.

The amount of retail therapy going on right now with almost all Americans is For the first time in my life, we are all purchasing so many goods, that try as they may, manufacturers just can't keep up.

I suspect that when things calm down, a lot of people will own a lot of shit they no longer need/think they need/use, and prices will drop. We will all realize (not us on DFD but collectively as Americans) we actually dont off-road, ride bikes, go camping, live on a lake, you name it. At that point, a lot of these super popular right now items will drop I think.

Still though, something like a super cool/rare spec FJ will always maintain a cult following and good value.

Absolutely. If our move north ends up being permanent, I'm going to keep my eye out for boat deals in a few years. Boats were 100% sold out in this region this year. RECORD sales year. People are going to realize that they're a PITA and too expensive to store and them. We get a boat slip with our house, and I'd get one small enough to park in the garage in the winter so

[4zilch]

I need the window trim blacked out too. I’m a picky betch.

Funny, I have a buddy at work who has a G80 and he actually plastidipped all of the chrome stuff to black (the car is maroon) and it looks significantly better. Plastidip kinda sucks as it ages

Yeah, I’d probably spend the money and have it properly prepped and painted

[troyguitar]

So I crossed a year of ownershit on my car the other day. Did 2600 miles on the car and 2200 on my bike. If not for all of the shoulder issues, I'd have long since put more miles on the bike. Guess I should switch to bikeforums.net or whatever those people use.

<5k miles of driving/riding in a year is also by far the least I've ever done.

[max225]

So I crossed a year of ownershit on my car the other day. Did 2600 miles on the car and 2200 on my bike. If not for all of the shoulder issues, I'd have long since put more miles on the bike. Guess I should switch to bikeforums.net or whatever those people use.

<5k miles of driving/riding in a year is also by far the least I've ever done.

I just drove 1000 miles in the taco alone in the last 2 weeks. Pics to come. Get out there and do stuff

[CaleDeRoo]

They salted the roads here today

[troyguitar]

They salted the roads here today

It was snowing all day here, what did you expect? November through May is season.

[max225]

They salted the roads here today

It was snowing all day here, what did you expect? November through May is season.

We're sitting at 6 months with no rain, and well over 80 today... love to have some of the rain what a year 2020 has been.

[ChrisoftheNorth]

They salted the roads here today

It was snowing all day here, what did you expect? November through May is season.

Holy crap. It's 65 and sunny here today, should be most of the week. How the hell the weather in Northern MI is routinely better than upstate NY is just to me.

[D Griff]

It was snowing all day here, what did you expect? November through May is season.

Holy crap. It's 65 and sunny here today, should be most of the week. How the hell the weather in Northern MI is routinely better than upstate NY is just to me.

I suspect they have good days and shit days too, like anywhere. The good ones just don't get mentioned.

[ChrisoftheNorth]

Holy crap. It's 65 and sunny here today, should be most of the week. How the hell the weather in Northern MI is routinely better than upstate NY is just to me.

I suspect they have good days and shit days too, like anywhere. The good ones just don't get mentioned.

We had snow on Sunday that all melted. They didn't touch the roads, salt is used sparingly here thankfully.

[troyguitar]

Holy crap. It's 65 and sunny here today, should be most of the week. How the hell the weather in Northern MI is routinely better than upstate NY is just to me.

I suspect they have good days and shit days too, like anywhere. The good ones just don't get mentioned.

While true, you have like 300+ good days a year and we have... maybe 100?

Like today was 25F in the morning and it'll be dark at 4, but right now it is in fact sunny and 60. It's not a good day but it's a decent ~3 hours from 1-4.

[D Griff]

I suspect they have good days and shit days too, like anywhere. The good ones just don't get mentioned.

While true, you have like 300+ good days a year and we have... maybe 100?

Like today was 25F in the morning and it'll be dark at 4, but right now it is in fact sunny and 60. It's not a good day but it's a decent ~3 hours from 1-4.

that the weather here is better, but it was also really cold (albeit "only high 30s") in the morning today here with sunny and upper 60s for maybe 4 hours. Sure, it is better, but it is still limited nice time to really enjoy being outside.

[ChrisoftheNorth]

I suspect they have good days and shit days too, like anywhere. The good ones just don't get mentioned.

While true, you have like 300+ good days a year and we have... maybe 100?

Like today was 25F in the morning and it'll be dark at 4, but right now it is in fact sunny and 60. It's not a good day but it's a decent ~3 hours from 1-4.

60 at anytime in November is

It was 45 here in the AM, but warmed up quickly with full sun. Gotta look at the positives man!

[D Griff]

A lot of us here are lucky now that we have the flexibility to get outside during those hours.

[ChrisoftheNorth]

A lot of us here are lucky now that we have the flexibility to get outside during those hours.

Big time! About to take the for a walk and enjoy this. Gotta make the most of it with shorter days. All part of being alive.

[D Griff]

A lot of us here are lucky now that we have the flexibility to get outside during those hours.

Big time! About to take the for a walk and enjoy this. Gotta make the most of it with shorter days. All part of being alive.

I finally got the brake parts needed to fix my MTB. I think I am going to fuck off and go ride... need some stress relief, kind of in a funk today.

[CaleDeRoo]

It was snowing all day here, what did you expect? November through May is season.

Holy crap. It's 65 and sunny here today, should be most of the week. How the hell the weather in Northern MI is routinely better than upstate NY is just to me.

I am a bit farther north than Detroit, but I think being east of all the great lakes is the main culprit

[troyguitar]

While true, you have like 300+ good days a year and we have... maybe 100?

Like today was 25F in the morning and it'll be dark at 4, but right now it is in fact sunny and 60. It's not a good day but it's a decent ~3 hours from 1-4.

60 at anytime in November is

It was 45 here in the AM, but warmed up quickly with full sun. Gotta look at the positives man!

Hard to be positive about being in a less shitty situation than it could be... Things can always be worse, so what? There's no good reason why we can't get authorization to move (either via the current job or a new one) yet here we remain. I'm paying $400 for someone to replace a rusted out wheel bearing on the wife's car today because we live in this fucking shithole.

[ChrisoftheNorth]

Holy crap. It's 65 and sunny here today, should be most of the week. How the hell the weather in Northern MI is routinely better than upstate NY is just to me.

I am a bit farther north than Detroit, but I think being east of all the great lakes is the main culprit

I'm 250 miles north of Detroit now...but the lakes certainly do make the weather a bit different. Our fall colors lasted way longer than the rest of the state.

[CaleDeRoo]

I am a bit farther north than Detroit, but I think being east of all the great lakes is the main culprit

I'm 250 miles north of Detroit now...but the lakes certainly do make the weather a bit different. Our fall colors lasted way longer than the rest of the state.

I still have something for you. I'm embarrassed I didn't get it out to you earlier, but PM your new address if you still want it. It's on me.

[MexicanYarisTK]

So I crossed a year of ownershit on my car the other day. Did 2600 miles on the car and 2200 on my bike. If not for all of the shoulder issues, I'd have long since put more miles on the bike. Guess I should switch to bikeforums.net or whatever those people use.

<5k miles of driving/riding in a year is also by far the least I've ever done.

Jesus dude! You live in the blessed hands, i'd totally fuck around with the car on some twisties and shit.

[CaleDeRoo]

So I crossed a year of ownershit on my car the other day. Did 2600 miles on the car and 2200 on my bike. If not for all of the shoulder issues, I'd have long since put more miles on the bike. Guess I should switch to bikeforums.net or whatever those people use.

<5k miles of driving/riding in a year is also by far the least I've ever done.

Jesus dude! You live in the blessed hands, i'd totally fuck around with the car on some twisties and shit.

He lives in Corning NY. They've never heard of a twisty, and there's only 5-6mo of okayish weather.

[4zilch]

Are we still bragging about weather?

[Desertbreh]

So the interesting part is...
Toyota made 2500 of them. And within the last 3 months 3 hit BAT, in THIS EXACT combo (minus trans) 2 out of 250 manuals hit BAT. That is pretty damn insane. This is signaling some sort of bubble imo.

Seems like people are cashing out of these as "collector" items...certainly one sign of a bubble.

I just think back to 08 when used Prius were selling for more than new and worthless Geo Metros were $10k cars. Bubbles burst.

Winter is coming. January or February shit gets real. My car dealer bro lost 600K in book value on his cars last month.