I like the look of the last Xterra. When I drove the Frontier and Taco back to back the Nissan had the better engine trans and ride.CaleDeRoo wrote: ↑Tue Jan 28, 2020 10:08 am I would love to hear your thoughts on the Xterra
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A good bit cheaper than the Toyota, maybe for a reason, but I think they look much nicer. Sure not as funky but I prefer it.
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Same. Added a link for a 2012 bro forx @$14k. I wouldn't mind that myself.Johnny_P wrote: ↑Tue Jan 28, 2020 10:12 amI like the look of the last Xterra. When I drove the Frontier and Taco back to back the Nissan had the better engine trans and ride.CaleDeRoo wrote: ↑Tue Jan 28, 2020 10:08 am I would love to hear your thoughts on the Xterra
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A good bit cheaper than the Toyota, maybe for a reason, but I think they look much nicer. Sure not as funky but I prefer it.
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We went over these. I think the size is an issue and they would immediately need work, like wheels tires etc. also they get 12/13 mpg vs 16/17 which doesn’t sound likeSwedish Chef wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2020 10:01 pmGX/LX470?
Dead reliable and other than pricey timing belt replacements, they’re definitely mom approved
Much of a difference but it is.
I'm with JP on this... the 90k mile XTerra looks cool and is a more interesting vehicle than the $20K JGC. Also, in three years, the X will be a $7-9K car... and so will the Jeep GCJohnny_P wrote: ↑Tue Jan 28, 2020 10:12 amI like the look of the last Xterra. When I drove the Frontier and Taco back to back the Nissan had the better engine trans and ride.CaleDeRoo wrote: ↑Tue Jan 28, 2020 10:08 am I would love to hear your thoughts on the Xterra
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A good bit cheaper than the Toyota, maybe for a reason, but I think they look much nicer. Sure not as funky but I prefer it.
JGC is objectively a far better vehicle, but it seems like the point is a more unique, fun vehicle, JGC, while very nice, is a mom car I see 200 of/day.
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It depends on the frame of reference. A 10k rr sport seems like it wouldn’t be that expensive to own. Probably less for me in 2 years than an fj. Mainly due to the already low price point.Johnny_P wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2020 8:46 pm Wait. We are discussing low cost of ownership vehicles and Range Rovers in the same sentences?
I’d imagine something like a Forester with some knobby tires would be able to tame the wild winding roads leading in and out of Sedona as well as any NPS road you’d want to gram about.
But if things ever change... I think I'd get one. As it stands, it's a tough pill to swallow when the BMW is actually a far better vehicle for everything I do other than fun.
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I did look at mid size trucks. But they make no sense... 4x4 v6 ext cabs with less than 100k miles are 25k which brings me right to an fj. Since I have no use for a bed.Johnny_P wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2020 10:53 pmhttps://sacramento.craigslist.org/ctd/d ... 32400.html
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Also, every mid size truck will do this like a champ. All the pickups had low range transfer cases and lots of ground clearance. Frontier, Tacoma, Colorado, Dakota, etc...
These aren’t bad but they don’t do much for me. I do like the overland jgc with v8. That’s quite nice
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That’s assuming it won’t need $5k in repairsmax225 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 28, 2020 10:26 amIt depends on the frame of reference. A 10k rr sport seems like it wouldn’t be that expensive to own. Probably less for me in 2 years than an fj. Mainly due to the already low price point.Johnny_P wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2020 8:46 pm Wait. We are discussing low cost of ownership vehicles and Range Rovers in the same sentences?
I’d imagine something like a Forester with some knobby tires would be able to tame the wild winding roads leading in and out of Sedona as well as any NPS road you’d want to gram about.
Pretty sure DeMuro had one of them. With the carmax warranty. That ended up paying for itself 3x over. In the course of one year.
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Yeah! It looks cool, brown, RWD based 4x4, manual, technically a wagon. Only missing the diesel. But really it’s in great shape and the price is appropriate. One of the cheapest ways to get a real capable 4WD that isn’t a total shitbox.D Griff wrote: ↑Tue Jan 28, 2020 10:25 amI'm with JP on this... the 90k mile XTerra looks cool and is a more interesting vehicle than the $20K JGC. Also, in three years, the X will be a $7-9K car... and so will the Jeep GC
JGC is objectively a far better vehicle, but it seems like the point is a more unique, fun vehicle, JGC, while very nice, is a mom car I see 200 of/day.
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He had the big daddy. The sport is quite a bit simpler. Also he took it in for things like telescoping steering wheel repair. I don’t see myself doing any of that. The main issue is air suspension. And there are ways around it and a solid aftermarket
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Well. go for it. I guess I don’t see the reason to buy a notoriously unreliable vehicle with intentions of taking it far off grid in the wilderness or desert. But then again I have zero patience for broken cars in general.
But they are cool no doubt.
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I don’t think I’m going to need any sort of major off road prowess. Which is why I am going to keep whatever I get stock. The 2020 willys is my perfect spec Jeep and the stock FJ with a trac is my perfect spec off road vehicle.[user not found] wrote: ↑Tue Jan 28, 2020 11:11 amI'd walk into a local LR/RR garage or european garage, and ask what the common failure points are and costs to repair.
The strong point of the FJ is reliability. But is it worth triple the initial outlay in purchase price... for a temporary experience.
Also, what kind of trails are we talking about you actually doing, comrade?
Beefy tires are key. And something that won’t rattle to shit on washboard roads. The RR doesn’t fit that. I am mainly entertaining the idea because of how cheap they are, but I’ll be honest I have no faith in taking that anywhere I’d want to go because I would never ever trust it. Lesbihonest
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I drive a sorority girls wet dream. I think I have proven to you guys that I am not exactly all about “image” even though I was getting some heat from dfd on my m3 adventures because I apparently did it for the “badge”[user not found] wrote: ↑Tue Jan 28, 2020 11:14 am
Also, I'm not about status - I'd rather roll up in an FJ and people think you're just a in a Toyota, than roll up in a $10k RR and think you're some
The RR just looks great and I think it would make for a supremely comfortable play toy.
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I mean. I don’t really get the FJ either. But I have no time in one. Opinion might change if I were to check one out.[user not found] wrote: ↑Tue Jan 28, 2020 11:14 am
Also, I'm not about status - I'd rather roll up in an FJ and people think you're just a in a Toyota, than roll up in a $10k RR and think you're some
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It’s hard to describe ...Johnny_P wrote: ↑Tue Jan 28, 2020 11:17 amI mean. I don’t really get the FJ either. But I have no time in one. Opinion might change if I were to check one out.[user not found] wrote: ↑Tue Jan 28, 2020 11:14 am
Also, I'm not about status - I'd rather roll up in an FJ and people think you're just a in a Toyota, than roll up in a $10k RR and think you're some
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Very nice ride
It has got to have some of the most unique presence in the automotive field.
aKtUaLly it may be sort of cool for you as well... fits all criteria minus mpg. But
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Random side note y’all watch savage geese tear into the fraud explorer ?
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It was brutal to watch... I would hate to work at Fraud right now...
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It was brutal to watch... I would hate to work at Fraud right now...
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red 95 that was totaled due to haliariousily minor rear end damage . was nice car before. comes with spare wheels, 140k, ac working, dude just took payout and doesn't want to deal with it.
1500 ask.
I'm getting it if he responds back. we've traded messages but I think he is driving based on what he said. so when he gets back I'll go look and scoop.
it needs 300 in parts to be good as before.
and I can get antique plates!
I'm a little excited
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Yeah I watched that. It was cringe worthy.max225 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 28, 2020 11:25 am Random side note y’all watch savage geese tear into the fraud explorer ?
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It was brutal to watch... I would hate to work at Fraud right now...
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Does a salvage title come with major headaches in your state ? In Cali we have to do a “brake and light” inspection before registering a salvage title car.Big Brain Bradley wrote: ↑Tue Jan 28, 2020 11:28 amred 95 that was totaled due to haliariousily minor rear end damage . was nice car before. comes with spare wheels, 140k, ac working, dude just took payout and doesn't want to deal with it.
1500 ask.
I'm getting it if he responds back. we've traded messages but I think he is driving based on what he said. so when he gets back I'll go look and scoop.
it needs 300 in parts to be good as before.
and I can get antique plates!
I'm a little excited
$1500 seems like it won’t get any lower than that ... after all Miata is the answer. Cheap fun