troyguitar wrote: ↑Sat Sep 26, 2020 2:38 pm
Yes obviously I'm an incompetent piece of shit who can't do anything right or treat anything right because my experiences are not the same as yours.
I didn't say any of those things. I'm just trying to help with the experiences I have had in dealing with rust on vehicles.
troyguitar wrote: ↑Sat Sep 26, 2020 3:23 pm
I have all of those fucking tools and take care of my shit.
It is NOT ENOUGH. Maybe it's enough in fucking Delaware, especially when you have your own garage?
Everyone here is implying or flat out stating that the trouble I have experienced with rust is all because I don't know how to work on or take care of a car.
Yes, I do have a sizable garage, and it is an advantage that I do have over others. I lucked into finding this house in my price range after a two year house hunt that involved losing out on three other houses I had bid on. However, even with the garage, I find myself often working in mine or someone else's driveway.
Delaware does have a lengthy salt season.
troyguitar wrote: ↑Sat Sep 26, 2020 6:46 pm
I had a big air impact and torch and WEEKS of spraying fucking PB blaster, liquid wrench, and WD40 on the shit multiple times per day plus swinging the biggest hammers I could find as fucking hard as I could at shit on the allroad...
At one point I had an 8 ft long 4x4 and was winding up and swinging that motherfucker as hard as I could at a chisel that I had rigged into place.
So fuck off with this condescension. I tried everything remotely reasonable.
Not all impacts are created equal. I first had an air impact with 325 ft/lbs of breakaway torque, and it didn't do dick with anything that even heard about corrosion. I replaced it with an air gun with 600 ft/lbs, and it still struggled with some suspension bolts. I replaced it with an 18v Makita that has something like 1100 ft/lbs of breakaway torque, and that thing is a beast. I have ditched all of my old air tools aside from my air hammer at this point.
And I'm not trying to come off as condescending. I'm just presenting information.
troyguitar wrote: ↑Sat Sep 26, 2020 6:48 pm
Also: If I need fire or a cutting tool, then that is unreasonable and too much effort even if it does "work" - no one should ever have to do that.
There are plenty of times where some concentrated fire has been the saving grace and the difference between a two hour job and a two day stint. The same with cutting. Sometimes the bolt just needs to be cut and replaced. Don't make things harder with self-imposed limitations.
Makita > Milwaukee?
I need to invest... I was looking at Milwaukee impact + drill for around $200 which isn’t bad. I also wanted to pick up the weed eater but at $300... I might just get one for $20 on Craig’s.
troyguitar wrote: ↑Sat Sep 26, 2020 6:48 pm
Also: If I need fire or a cutting tool, then that is unreasonable and too much effort even if it does "work" - no one should ever have to do that.
A mapp torch is generally hot enough to un-seize fasteners and readily available.
So much this. My Mapp torch has saved me so many times...even on bolts that aren't even rusty. Heat is good.
Desertbreh wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2017 6:40 pm
My guess would be that Chris took some time off because he has read the dialogue on this page 1,345 times and decided to spend some of his free time doing something besides beating a horse to death.
I didn't say any of those things. I'm just trying to help with the experiences I have had in dealing with rust on vehicles.
Yes, I do have a sizable garage, and it is an advantage that I do have over others. I lucked into finding this house in my price range after a two year house hunt that involved losing out on three other houses I had bid on. However, even with the garage, I find myself often working in mine or someone else's driveway.
Delaware does have a lengthy salt season.
Not all impacts are created equal. I first had an air impact with 325 ft/lbs of breakaway torque, and it didn't do dick with anything that even heard about corrosion. I replaced it with an air gun with 600 ft/lbs, and it still struggled with some suspension bolts. I replaced it with an 18v Makita that has something like 1100 ft/lbs of breakaway torque, and that thing is a beast. I have ditched all of my old air tools aside from my air hammer at this point.
And I'm not trying to come off as condescending. I'm just presenting information.
There are plenty of times where some concentrated fire has been the saving grace and the difference between a two hour job and a two day stint. The same with cutting. Sometimes the bolt just needs to be cut and replaced. Don't make things harder with self-imposed limitations.
Makita > Milwaukee?
I need to invest... I was looking at Milwaukee impact + drill for around $200 which isn’t bad. I also wanted to pick up the weed eater but at $300... I might just get one for $20 on Craig’s.
Makita impact FTW. Although I think Milwaukee might have one now with higher breakaway torque? Not sure how it matches up on RPMs though.
Milwaukee wins with a 12v ratchet though (Makita doesn’t really have one).
As the only published author in a well-known motorcycle publication in the room...
I didn't say any of those things. I'm just trying to help with the experiences I have had in dealing with rust on vehicles.
Yes, I do have a sizable garage, and it is an advantage that I do have over others. I lucked into finding this house in my price range after a two year house hunt that involved losing out on three other houses I had bid on. However, even with the garage, I find myself often working in mine or someone else's driveway.
Delaware does have a lengthy salt season.
Not all impacts are created equal. I first had an air impact with 325 ft/lbs of breakaway torque, and it didn't do dick with anything that even heard about corrosion. I replaced it with an air gun with 600 ft/lbs, and it still struggled with some suspension bolts. I replaced it with an 18v Makita that has something like 1100 ft/lbs of breakaway torque, and that thing is a beast. I have ditched all of my old air tools aside from my air hammer at this point.
And I'm not trying to come off as condescending. I'm just presenting information.
There are plenty of times where some concentrated fire has been the saving grace and the difference between a two hour job and a two day stint. The same with cutting. Sometimes the bolt just needs to be cut and replaced. Don't make things harder with self-imposed limitations.
Makita > Milwaukee?
I need to invest... I was looking at Milwaukee impact + drill for around $200 which isn’t bad. I also wanted to pick up the weed eater but at $300... I might just get one for $20 on Craig’s.
Honestly, at this point in the game, you could go either way and be fine as long as you stick with the Milwaukee Fuel line or the Makita LXT Brushless line. I prefer Makita's 18V line because I have used their tools since 2007 without issue, and I saw no reason to switch to another battery line. Milwaukee has a much more diverse 12V line. So, I've maintained that split of Makita for 18V and Milwaukee for 12V.
I need to invest... I was looking at Milwaukee impact + drill for around $200 which isn’t bad. I also wanted to pick up the weed eater but at $300... I might just get one for $20 on Craig’s.
Makita impact FTW. Although I think Milwaukee might have one now with higher breakaway torque? Not sure how it matches up on RPMs though.
Milwaukee wins with a 12v ratchet though (Makita doesn’t really have one).
They are constantly upping one another with torque ratings on their impacts. Milwaukee will be top dog for a few months, and then Makita will release a new one with bigger numbers and take the throne for a few months.
So far, it just doesn't care how tight the fastener is. The only downside is that it doesn't fit in tight spots, but with almost 1200 ft/lbs of breakaway torque, throwing an extension and a wobbly on don't really decrease the torque to a point that hinders the job.
Makita impact FTW. Although I think Milwaukee might have one now with higher breakaway torque? Not sure how it matches up on RPMs though.
Milwaukee wins with a 12v ratchet though (Makita doesn’t really have one).
They are constantly upping one another with torque ratings on their impacts. Milwaukee will be top dog for a few months, and then Makita will release a new one with bigger numbers and take the throne for a few months.
So far, it just doesn't care how tight the fastener is. The only downside is that it doesn't fit in tight spots, but with almost 1200 ft/lbs of breakaway torque, throwing an extension and a wobbly on don't really decrease the torque to a point that hinders the job.
Yeah, that's the same one I have. It's amazing. I still get out my air impact from time to time when I need RPM/acceleration, but for everything else I use the electric.
As the only published author in a well-known motorcycle publication in the room...
troyguitar wrote: ↑Sat Sep 26, 2020 6:48 pm
Also: If I need fire or a cutting tool, then that is unreasonable and too much effort even if it does "work" - no one should ever have to do that.
Heat is a great way to prevent damage.
I see the Hagerty guys using it all the time on older engines, whether they need it or not.
Also, because this is 2020, there's a nifty tool for that I want to pick up. It's an induction heating element.
No flame, no worries.
4zilch wrote: ↑Mon Apr 12, 2021 8:46 am
I'm a fucking failure.
troyguitar wrote: ↑Sat Sep 26, 2020 2:38 pm
Yes obviously I'm an incompetent piece of shit who can't do anything right or treat anything right because my experiences are not the same as yours.
4zilch wrote: ↑Mon Apr 12, 2021 8:46 am
I'm a fucking failure.
troyguitar wrote: ↑Sat Sep 26, 2020 6:48 pm
Also: If I need fire or a cutting tool, then that is unreasonable and too much effort even if it does "work" - no one should ever have to do that.
Heat is a great way to prevent damage.
I see the Hagerty guys using it all the time on older engines, whether they need it or not.
Also, because this is 2020, there's a nifty tool for that I want to pick up. It's an induction heating element.
No flame, no worries.
This is I wonder if that element can bend to reach bolts/nuts in tight places.
Desertbreh wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2017 6:40 pm
My guess would be that Chris took some time off because he has read the dialogue on this page 1,345 times and decided to spend some of his free time doing something besides beating a horse to death.
troyguitar wrote: ↑Sat Sep 26, 2020 6:48 pm
Also: If I need fire or a cutting tool, then that is unreasonable and too much effort even if it does "work" - no one should ever have to do that.
Heat is a great way to prevent damage.
I see the Hagerty guys using it all the time on older engines, whether they need it or not.
Also, because this is 2020, there's a nifty tool for that I want to pick up. It's an induction heating element.
No flame, no worries.
That is a neat tool. I'll have to look into one. I wonder how long it takes to heat versus a MAP flame?
max225 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 28, 2020 10:51 am
Nothing like tool named Guangzhou
What could go wrong?
I'm sure Milwaukee or DeWalt will buy it from Guangzhou, slap their badge on it, and mark it up 50% so you can buy it and feel better about not buying from China.
Desertbreh wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2017 6:40 pm
My guess would be that Chris took some time off because he has read the dialogue on this page 1,345 times and decided to spend some of his free time doing something besides beating a horse to death.
Heat is a great way to prevent damage.
I see the Hagerty guys using it all the time on older engines, whether they need it or not.
Also, because this is 2020, there's a nifty tool for that I want to pick up. It's an induction heating element.
No flame, no worries.
That is a neat tool. I'll have to look into one. I wonder how long it takes to heat versus a MAP flame?
The thing about it is the directness of the heat. With a MAP flame, you really have to be careful what you're heating because it's easy to melt wiring or heat up other things around the subject nut/bolt. This using induction shouldn't have that problem at all.
Desertbreh wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2017 6:40 pm
My guess would be that Chris took some time off because he has read the dialogue on this page 1,345 times and decided to spend some of his free time doing something besides beating a horse to death.
My cousin is making some positive strides towards completing is vision or rebuilding a Fiat X1/9 Bertone. He did his own body and paint work and I'm really proud for him.
I wonder if that element can bend to reach bolts/nuts in tight places.
painted his C5 with. 
life
