Car Talk 5: The Juice is Loose!

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D Griff wrote: Thu Oct 15, 2020 8:30 pm
max225 wrote: Thu Oct 15, 2020 12:43 pm

You can't say that a brand new 40k JL is :scrooge: in the same sentence
Compared to a 10 year old truck for 25% more I think it is... but you’re right, I’m kind of continually :disgust: that we bought such an expensive car. At the end of the day though, it is still worth what we paid.
agree to disagree. :scrooge: is something that doesn’t require 2 way insurance and costs 4 digits. Not close to mid 5s
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max225 wrote: Thu Oct 15, 2020 5:45 pm
CaleDeRoo wrote: Thu Oct 15, 2020 5:29 pm TFLoffroad bought a Max spec Defender.
Been watching it ... and the check engine light
My father in law got the first defender in southern NJ. It broke down on the drive home because they forgot to secure the battery terminals during prep and it lost power and shut down. Two weeks later the check engine light came of for an evap code that a “software update” took care of. Otherwise, it’s a pretty cool truck.
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fledonfoot wrote: Thu Oct 15, 2020 11:08 pm
max225 wrote: Thu Oct 15, 2020 5:45 pm

Been watching it ... and the check engine light
My father in law got the first defender in southern NJ. It broke down on the drive home because they forgot to secure the battery terminals during prep and it lost power and shut down. Two weeks later the check engine light came of for an evap code that a “software update” took care of. Otherwise, it’s a pretty cool truck.
Interesting.
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D Griff wrote: Thu Oct 15, 2020 8:31 pm
Detroit wrote: Thu Oct 15, 2020 12:41 pm
There's plenty of cheap off-road options that you and I would enjoy, just not up to the standards of Max or Zil. #Cheapcarlyfe isn't for everyone.
True. I would happily rock that red Taco Johnny posted for $15k. I still think it’s overpriced though.
I :like: it too
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max225 wrote: Thu Oct 15, 2020 9:10 pm
D Griff wrote: Thu Oct 15, 2020 8:30 pm

Compared to a 10 year old truck for 25% more I think it is... but you’re right, I’m kind of continually :disgust: that we bought such an expensive car. At the end of the day though, it is still worth what we paid.
agree to disagree. :scrooge: is something that doesn’t require 2 way insurance and costs 4 digits. Not close to mid 5s
You're :notwrong: I am just trying to justify the :troywax:
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D Griff wrote: Fri Oct 16, 2020 8:13 am
max225 wrote: Thu Oct 15, 2020 9:10 pm

agree to disagree. :scrooge: is something that doesn’t require 2 way insurance and costs 4 digits. Not close to mid 5s
You're :notwrong: I am just trying to justify the :troywax:
You justify it because it's a fun vehicle that both you and the wife enjoy. That's about as impossible to find as a house. At least yours is in an awesome color, I have to drive around the basic bitch spec all white Sahara that's been made by the tens of thousands.
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Detroit wrote: Fri Oct 16, 2020 9:05 am
D Griff wrote: Fri Oct 16, 2020 8:13 am

You're :notwrong: I am just trying to justify the :troywax:
You justify it because it's a fun vehicle that both you and the wife enjoy. That's about as impossible to find as a house. At least yours is in an awesome color, I have to drive around the basic bitch spec all white Sahara that's been made by the tens of thousands.
That is the true reason. Every other vehicle I like she thinks is :disgust: and every other vehicle she likes I think is :disappoint:

She did want a white :jeep: as well, but man... she loves teal, she gets teal everything, so I was able to finally sell her on it for the car after much convincing. She now loves it but when I asked if she was a fun color convert, she was like "it is only cool on Wranglers"....

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D Griff wrote: Fri Oct 16, 2020 10:11 am
Detroit wrote: Fri Oct 16, 2020 9:05 am
You justify it because it's a fun vehicle that both you and the wife enjoy. That's about as impossible to find as a house. At least yours is in an awesome color, I have to drive around the basic bitch spec all white Sahara that's been made by the tens of thousands.
That is the true reason. Every other vehicle I like she thinks is :disgust: and every other vehicle she likes I think is :disappoint:
Same here.
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We parked behind this one at a trail head and snapped a pic on the way out. It was even from the same :dillerman:

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That teal is :neat:
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@Big D why don't the JL and JT share the same color palette?
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CaleDeRoo wrote: Fri Oct 16, 2020 12:17 pm @Big D why don't the JL and JT share the same color palette?
They're produced at different plants, so they take the opportunity to differentiate.
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troyguitar wrote: Fri Oct 16, 2020 12:08 pm That teal is :neat:
Thanks man. :mindblown: First compliment from :mahtroy: ever on a :truk: I think.
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I think I saw a Bikini Renegade yesterday. Didn’t realize it’d made its way to other vehicles in the lineup.
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SAWCE wrote: Fri Oct 16, 2020 2:21 pm I think I saw a Bikini Renegade yesterday. Didn’t realize it’d made its way to other vehicles in the lineup.
Just to Renegade I believe.
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The Renegade was a year before too wasn't it? I remember seeing many Renegades in bikini long before any Wrangler.

It's cool they differentiate colors but the JT options are pretty lame. A yellow or bikini Rubicon :jimp:
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CaleDeRoo wrote: Fri Oct 16, 2020 2:59 pm The Renegade was a year before too wasn't it? I remember seeing many Renegades in bikini long before any Wrangler.

It's cool they differentiate colors but the JT options are pretty lame. A yellow or bikini Rubicon :jimp:
Yep, just the ‘gade. I think only for a model year or two, around 2018.
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D Griff wrote: Fri Oct 16, 2020 12:36 pm
troyguitar wrote: Fri Oct 16, 2020 12:08 pm That teal is :neat:
Thanks man. :mindblown: First compliment from :mahtroy: ever on anything I think.
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SAWCE wrote: Fri Oct 16, 2020 2:21 pm I think I saw a Bikini Renegade yesterday. Didn’t realize it’d made its way to other vehicles in the lineup.
They did. The wife wants one.
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fledonfoot wrote: Fri Oct 16, 2020 4:43 pm

They did. The wife wants one.
It looks awesome on the Renegade, too.
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Lisa's dad's car. He bought it new. Spent the last 8-10 years as a wood shelf, collecting dust and mice nests. Convinced him to pull it out of the garage and we wrenched on it to get it running. Needs a lot. Was pretty funny to drive. Brakes are horrific, clutch pedal hinge is floor mounted, idle was 2k so that needs to be fixed, and carb tuning is off. But it ran pretty strong nonetheless. Engine was smoking when we were done, I think it's just starter oil we put into the block burning off the exhaust headers (that job was a little messy). Frame has a hole in it. Some rust.

40 MPH feels flat out reckless because you're like 6" off the ground in a go kart. It's loud and makes good noises. It's not really my thing. He said he'd give it to me if I want it.
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Pretty :neat: car! Are you going to take it off his hands once the STI is sold? Seems like not a great thing to own living in the city + being a new dad, but I :like:
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Johnny_P wrote: Mon Oct 19, 2020 11:16 am Image
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Lisa's dad's car. He bought it new. Spent the last 8-10 years as a wood shelf, collecting dust and mice nests. Convinced him to pull it out of the garage and we wrenched on it to get it running. Needs a lot. Was pretty funny to drive. Brakes are horrific, clutch pedal hinge is floor mounted, idle was 2k so that needs to be fixed, and carb tuning is off. But it ran pretty strong nonetheless. Engine was smoking when we were done, I think it's just starter oil we put into the block burning off the exhaust headers (that job was a little messy). Frame has a hole in it. Some rust.

40 MPH feels flat out reckless because you're like 6" off the ground in a go kart. It's loud and makes good noises. It's not really my thing. He said he'd give it to me if I want it.
Seems like a neat thing to do? Nice of him. I would probably jump on it and slowly bring it back to life. These sorted are pretty
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Johnny_P wrote: Mon Oct 19, 2020 11:16 am Image
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Lisa's dad's car. He bought it new. Spent the last 8-10 years as a wood shelf, collecting dust and mice nests. Convinced him to pull it out of the garage and we wrenched on it to get it running. Needs a lot. Was pretty funny to drive. Brakes are horrific, clutch pedal hinge is floor mounted, idle was 2k so that needs to be fixed, and carb tuning is off. But it ran pretty strong nonetheless. Engine was smoking when we were done, I think it's just starter oil we put into the block burning off the exhaust headers (that job was a little messy). Frame has a hole in it. Some rust.

40 MPH feels flat out reckless because you're like 6" off the ground in a go kart. It's loud and makes good noises. It's not really my thing. He said he'd give it to me if I want it.
Old Orange BMW Bros.

The M10 is a stout little engine. They used it in the 70's all the way into the early E30's, until the M42 16v engine replaced it.
The M20 in my car is essentially the same with two more cylinders. SOHC 2v engine.

It's definitely a USDM car with those terrible bumpers and the tail lights.
Get some Euro bumpers for it and it will really clean up the look.
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A sane 2002 restomod with a 318ti engine would be super cool. 15" wheels with some conti sports, decent brakes and shocks... but you need a garage to own an old car.
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