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CaleDeRoo wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 9:53 am A limerock green c7 parked behind me at top golf just now.

He's wearing UA sneaks.

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max225 wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 10:23 am
CaleDeRoo wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 9:53 am A limerock green c7 parked behind me at top golf just now.

He's wearing UA sneaks.

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CaleDeRoo wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 9:53 am A limerock green c7 parked behind me at top golf just now.

He's wearing UA sneaks.

Fail
Nobody informed him of the dress code?
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https://autos.yahoo.com/ford-moving-tow ... 00140.html

I noticed this while shopping for the mustang Mach E. You essentially cut out the :dillerman:

Finally doing what Tesla has been doing for 9 years. But the sErVicE nEtWoRK
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max225 wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 3:04 pm https://autos.yahoo.com/ford-moving-tow ... 00140.html

I noticed this while shopping for the mustang Mach E. You essentially cut out the :dillerman:

Finally doing what Tesla has been doing for 9 years. But the sErVicE nEtWoRK
How is the service network relevant? That should stay the say regardless of how your buy your Ford. Still a win
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CaleDeRoo wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 3:25 pm
max225 wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 3:04 pm https://autos.yahoo.com/ford-moving-tow ... 00140.html

I noticed this while shopping for the mustang Mach E. You essentially cut out the :dillerman:

Finally doing what Tesla has been doing for 9 years. But the sErVicE nEtWoRK
How is the service network relevant? That should stay the say regardless of how your buy your Ford. Still a win
That’s the reason you can’t sell directly to customers in Michigan’s. The :dillerman: got together and claimed that buying directly would hurt customers.

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max225 wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 3:28 pm
CaleDeRoo wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 3:25 pm

How is the service network relevant? That should stay the say regardless of how your buy your Ford. Still a win
That’s the reason you can’t sell directly to customers in Michigan’s. The :dillerman: got together and claimed that buying directly would hurt customers.

:lolgasm:
Michigan and a number of states still won't allow direct sales. Dealer lobby groups are rich and powerful, and hold many state legislatures by the balls. It's terrible.

Worse though, this article isn't saying Ford is going to go to direct sales...they can't. Instead, they're going to make people order cars through dealers instead of buying off the lot. It's going to be a nightmare. Established OEMs will need to go under or close to it to get rid of these regulations to work freer. That's ok.

Service is a thing though. A Ford will need more service than a Tesla, even if it doesn't, Ford would never invest in the mobile service concept like Tesla has.
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max225 wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 10:23 am
CaleDeRoo wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 9:53 am A limerock green c7 parked behind me at top golf just now.

He's wearing UA sneaks.

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The sales associate measures your foot size, and then springs in the air with an uppercut to your jaw.
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The CRV is shaking / rumbling above 70 MPH.
Checked tire pressures, they're all good.
Going to have to make a dealer appt tomorrow. Hopefully it's just an out of balance wheel or something, and not a defective rear driveshaft or motor mounts.
Car has like 170 miles on it.

On the plus side, mileage is going up. We're at 37 average right now. Must have been a bunch of idling or test drives or whatever initially.
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Johnny_P wrote: Sun Aug 01, 2021 6:32 pm The CRV is shaking / rumbling above 70 MPH.
Checked tire pressures, they're all good.
Going to have to make a dealer appt tomorrow. Hopefully it's just an out of balance wheel or something, and not a defective rear driveshaft or motor mounts.
Car has like 170 miles on it.

On the plus side, mileage is going up. We're at 37 average right now. Must have been a bunch of idling or test drives or whatever initially.
Hopefully it's just a tire issue like you say. First the F150 and now the Hon :derp: your family can't get away from brand new car problems.
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Johnny_P wrote: Sun Aug 01, 2021 6:32 pm The CRV is shaking / rumbling above 70 MPH.
Checked tire pressures, they're all good.
Going to have to make a dealer appt tomorrow. Hopefully it's just an out of balance wheel or something, and not a defective rear driveshaft or motor mounts.
Car has like 170 miles on it.

On the plus side, mileage is going up. We're at 37 average right now. Must have been a bunch of idling or test drives or whatever initially.
That’s shitty. Hopefully an easy fix. I had 0 issues in the taco in the last 10 months. Hopefully they rectify the problem.

37 mpg is spot on
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Wheel balance issue most likely. But :dillerman: :disgust:
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Dang. Hoping it's a simple fix. Are Hon :derp: :dillerman: service departments known to be :disgust: or :notbad: ?
:wap: Where are these mangos?
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Hold my beer … 110k for a Jeep wagonqueer
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max225 wrote: Tue Aug 03, 2021 4:43 pm

Hold my beer … 110k for a Jeep wagonqueer
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:lolgasm:
So much :disgust:
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Detroit wrote: Tue Aug 03, 2021 4:45 pm
max225 wrote: Tue Aug 03, 2021 4:43 pm

Hold my beer … 110k for a Jeep wagonqueer
:disgust:
:lolgasm:
So much :disgust:
It’ll be great in 2 years for 30k used. But the question is will they sell enough of them to be around in the secondary market.

Jeep/wagoneer doesn’t have the badge to warrant 6 figures imo. Unless it has a hellcat motor which it doesn’t. People that shop 6 figure price tags will take a Lincoln/caddy over this all day long
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max225 wrote: Tue Aug 03, 2021 4:43 pm

Hold my beer … 110k for a Jeep wagonqueer
:disgust:
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I would honestly rather have the Tessie for six figs :lolgasm:
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D Griff wrote: Tue Aug 03, 2021 5:06 pm
max225 wrote: Tue Aug 03, 2021 4:43 pm

Hold my beer … 110k for a Jeep wagonqueer
:disgust:
:lolgasm:
I would honestly rather have the Tessie for six figs :lolgasm:
A model X long range is about 25k cheaper and faster . I have 0 ideas as to who the target customer for the Jeep is other than a Cadillac Escalade shopper…
Let’s be honest someone going for euro/jap cars will not look at a Jeep 2x.

Now an Escalade shopper at least has the brand behind them… Jeep :doe: :wtf: they make 20k rebadged italian bread boxes and things that have porta potty roofs.

I would have ever signed off on a business case for this thing. Not in a million years
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max225 wrote: Tue Aug 03, 2021 4:43 pm

Hold my beer … 110k for a Jeep wagonqueer
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I saw one of these in person in black, and it looked every bit as baller on the road as the Escalade to me.

Also a big number of owners tow with these luxo family haulers and 10k lbs is a shit load and a selling point to that market.
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CaleDeRoo wrote: Tue Aug 03, 2021 7:30 pm
max225 wrote: Tue Aug 03, 2021 4:43 pm

Hold my beer … 110k for a Jeep wagonqueer
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I saw one of these in person in black, and it looked every bit as baller on the road as the Escalade to me.

Also a big number of owners tow with these luxo family haulers and 10k lbs is a shit load and a selling point to that market.
If you’re towing 10k lbs you should be in 2500hd.
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max225 wrote: Tue Aug 03, 2021 7:36 pm
CaleDeRoo wrote: Tue Aug 03, 2021 7:30 pm

I saw one of these in person in black, and it looked every bit as baller on the road as the Escalade to me.

Also a big number of owners tow with these luxo family haulers and 10k lbs is a shit load and a selling point to that market.
If you’re towing 10k lbs you should be in 2500hd.
Ok, what if you want to tow 8000?
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CaleDeRoo wrote: Tue Aug 03, 2021 8:00 pm
max225 wrote: Tue Aug 03, 2021 7:36 pm

If you’re towing 10k lbs you should be in 2500hd.
Ok, what if you want to tow 8000?
That should be ok in that thing.
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max225 wrote: Tue Aug 03, 2021 8:02 pm
CaleDeRoo wrote: Tue Aug 03, 2021 8:00 pm
Ok, what if you want to tow 8000?
That should be ok in that thing.
That's beyond the 7500 for the Escalade so there were go. So I think advertising 7 screens is a bit much? Yes, but I'm not sure what the Escalade offers over this besides pop culture fame.
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