DFD

2018
22 Vehicles
2019
20 3/5th Vehicles (3/5th coming from 's soul)
If you're not first you're last.


2020


1. Irish - T for T
2. 3rdgenfan- ElectricGMegg
3. Big Brain Bradley- the answer.
4. Gberg- for
5. Dubshow - bimmerwagonshow
6. [user not found] - Mini Midget Mini the eternal
7. cornhole one fiddy settlement benefit
8. 3rdgenfan with the chrome thunder gxp
9. Dgriff is now officially ToledoGriff
10. Calederoo with the B5 k04 x2
11. Gberg with the 4
12. clowncar
13. bloo Bavarian lightning
14. Zillskie the man
15. with the :265: turd
16. Apex
17. Fled with the Poorsche slaying hybrid rolla

Does anyone have any Range Rover Sport experience ? Looking for some reliability questions... yea yea i know "they are the worst" but anything empirical ?
06-08 have first model year issues, but I am surprised how well they seem to hold up from a Visual perspective. Almost no wear and tear on leather even at well over 100k miles etc.

In particular I am curious about the 4.4L Jag motor... it seems to have timing chain guide crap as per others but if it happens at 150k+ miles. Tranny is ZF 6 speed so that should be ok.

It's not powertrain that kills you on those. It's the rest of the entire car for the most part.

MrH42 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 06, 2020 2:13 pm It's not powertrain that kills you on those. It's the rest of the entire car for the most part.

I am finding really limited info on actual issues. What are the most common probs ? I am a person who doesn't use any "gadgets" hell I set it and forget it when it comes to things like steering wheels/temperature etc. I never use heater, but AC is a must.

My 2020 preDICKtion is 15 cars.

Lol, the Soul was bought way back in 2019.
It's fair to remove it from the list.

max225 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 06, 2020 2:18 pm

MrH42 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 06, 2020 2:13 pm It's not powertrain that kills you on those. It's the rest of the entire car for the most part.

I am finding really limited info on actual issues. What are the most common probs ? I am a person who doesn't use any "gadgets" hell I set it and forget it when it comes to things like steering wheels/temperature etc. I never use heater, but AC is a must.

My old boss had a RR Sport (English dude). It was really nice inside despite having some years/miles on it in Los Angeles. He said that service was super pricey... most of his issues were little things that could possibly be DIY.

I may join the this year for

D Griff wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2020 2:31 pm

max225 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 06, 2020 2:18 pm

I am finding really limited info on actual issues. What are the most common probs ? I am a person who doesn't use any "gadgets" hell I set it and forget it when it comes to things like steering wheels/temperature etc. I never use heater, but AC is a must.

My old boss had a RR Sport (English dude). It was really nice inside despite having some years/miles on it in Los Angeles. He said that service was super pricey... most of his issues were little things that could possibly be DIY.

I may join the this year for

Beep Beep for the

D Griff wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2020 2:31 pm

max225 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 06, 2020 2:18 pm

I am finding really limited info on actual issues. What are the most common probs ? I am a person who doesn't use any "gadgets" hell I set it and forget it when it comes to things like steering wheels/temperature etc. I never use heater, but AC is a must.

My old boss had a RR Sport (English dude). It was really nice inside despite having some years/miles on it in Los Angeles. He said that service was super pricey... most of his issues were little things that could possibly be DIY.

I may join the this year for

I would DIY all service items. Based on what I can tell, the suspension needs doing at about 100k miles, which is probably around 1500-2000, and of course the doomsday timing chain, but that should be audible during any test drive.

max225 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 06, 2020 2:18 pm

MrH42 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 06, 2020 2:13 pm It's not powertrain that kills you on those. It's the rest of the entire car for the most part.

I am finding really limited info on actual issues. What are the most common probs ? I am a person who doesn't use any "gadgets" hell I set it and forget it when it comes to things like steering wheels/temperature etc. I never use heater, but AC is a must.

I believe the Air Suspension is a problem. I'm not sure about the cost per corner on replacement parts.

Desertbreh wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2020 2:46 pm

max225 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 06, 2020 2:18 pm

I am finding really limited info on actual issues. What are the most common probs ? I am a person who doesn't use any "gadgets" hell I set it and forget it when it comes to things like steering wheels/temperature etc. I never use heater, but AC is a must.

I believe the Air Suspension is a problem. I'm not sure about the cost per corner on replacement parts.

Yea as it ages I can totally see it.
$500 per set it seems.

max225 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2020 2:50 pm

Desertbreh wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2020 2:46 pm

I believe the Air Suspension is a problem. I'm not sure about the cost per corner on replacement parts.

Yea as it ages I can totally see it.
$500 per set it seems.

https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sal ... pe=listing

Here you go brah. If you throw another 10 on top for repairs its still a nice rig for 30 grand.

max225 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2020 2:50 pm

Desertbreh wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2020 2:46 pm

I believe the Air Suspension is a problem. I'm not sure about the cost per corner on replacement parts.

Yea as it ages I can totally see it.
$500 per set it seems.

I personally love how the LR4 looks over the RR Sport but they are bigger/heavier I think.

https://sfbay.craigslist.org/pen/cto/d/ ... 81611.html

Probably the OG owner since it's in Woodside

Desertbreh wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2020 2:58 pm

max225 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2020 2:50 pm

Yea as it ages I can totally see it.
$500 per set it seems.

https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sal ... pe=listing

Here you go brah. If you throw another 10 on top for repairs its still a nice rig for 30 grand.

Yea if you remove the supercharger that senselessly blows up at 100k, you can save another 5k. I have no interest in "performance" when it comes to a tank, it strains an already strained powertrain.

max225 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2020 3:02 pm

Desertbreh wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2020 2:58 pm

https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sal ... pe=listing

Here you go brah. If you throw another 10 on top for repairs its still a nice rig for 30 grand.

Yea if you remove the supercharger that senselessly blows up at 100k, you can save another 5k. I have no interest in "performance" when it comes to a tank, it strains an already strained powertrain.

I would want the blower. Which just leaves me hating myself bitterly the second after I agree to buy one of these used while the whole world laughs their ass off at me as the repair bills stack up like cordwood. I do agree the 2002-2012 Sports are nice looking trucks with interiors like a bespoke living room. They're just not a smart thing to do with your money.

Desertbreh wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2020 3:17 pm

max225 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2020 3:02 pm

Yea if you remove the supercharger that senselessly blows up at 100k, you can save another 5k. I have no interest in "performance" when it comes to a tank, it strains an already strained powertrain.

I would want the blower. Which just leaves me hating myself bitterly the second after I agree to buy one of these used while the whole world laughs their ass off at me as the repair bills stack up like cordwood. I do agree the 2002-2012 Sports are nice looking trucks with interiors like a bespoke living room. They're just not a smart thing to do with your money.

The blower literally increases running costs by 30%. 0-60 in 7 is plenty obviously speaking for myself.

Repair costs are the question in mind here. I still don’t have any solid info yet.

The "Responsible" option is a pre facelift JGC but I find it to be quite hideous and too mom mobily. A RR is at least somewhat unique and cool... worthy of the increased running costs IMO.

max225 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2020 4:51 pm The "Responsible" option is a pre facelift JGC but I find it to be quite hideous and too mom mobily. A RR is at least somewhat unique and cool... worthy of the increased running costs IMO.

It's a truck. I'm ok with it not being cool. The RR only impresses gay men and people who detest money.

Desertbreh wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2020 6:03 pm

max225 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2020 4:51 pm The "Responsible" option is a pre facelift JGC but I find it to be quite hideous and too mom mobily. A RR is at least somewhat unique and cool... worthy of the increased running costs IMO.

It's a truck. I'm ok with it not being cool. The RR only impresses gay men and people who detest money.

A truck has a bed. It is an SUV

FIRST!

Wife unit is trading in the 2016 Tiquan with 75k on a 2017 Touareg Wolfsbuuuuurg w/25k.... I don't have specific details except that they are giving her $14k for the Teeg and lowered the Touareg from $30 to $27K ...I am taking off to go check it out while my son finalizes the paperwork

3/5?

CaleDeRoo wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 5:40 pm3/5?

It's been explained at least 4 times now.

[user not found] wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 8:45 pm

max225 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 6:49 pm

It's been explained at least 4 times now.

And it still makes no sense.

3/5 as I understand it was a purchase made where the vehicle isn't intended to be driven by the DFD member taking krebitz for the , be it a spouse or girlfriend or other member of the hold.

Right so what cut off do you want to do ? There are those here that roll in their spouses cars all the time ala desert. There are those that never do it... to add to all this, some buy it/make the decision for their spouse others let them do it... we either draw the battle line or keep the gray area.