Let’s define dangerously slow

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What’s your definition of dangerously slow

>6
0
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>7
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>8
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>9
4
17%
>10
8
35%
>11
1
4%
>12
4
17%
>15
5
22%
>30
1
4%
 
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I don't remember that being advertised. The ads I remember touted it's 0-50 time of 7.2 seconds.

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Barnes93cb wrote: Thu Sep 19, 2019 10:31 am I voted wrong. Cant change my answer.
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I said 15+.

It should certainly be 8+.

Anything over 8 seconds is either an SUV or pre 2005 and wrong.
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I voted for 9+. My 2012 Cruze was borderline with an 8.1 0-60. I was still able to manage merging and whatnot, but it did require some additional planning. Anything slower than that is downright unacceptable to me. Hell, even that Cruze was unacceptable to me.
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Huckleberry wrote: Tue Sep 24, 2019 8:56 am I voted for 9+. My 2012 Cruze was borderline with an 8.1 0-60. I was still able to manage merging and whatnot, but it did require some additional planning. Anything slower than that is downright unacceptable to me. Hell, even that Cruze was unacceptable to me.
I had a Prius for the commuter lane access before the express lane pay to use existed here. Way too much planning and still failing to pass. I never want to be in that situation again.
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10-12s to 60 ain't that bad.
For modern passenger cars and personal trucks, it's unheard of, but for older cars from the 90's it's livable. Those few still trolling around.

I'd say my 2000 S-10 2.2L was dangerously slow.
You had to floor it and slam gears to hit 60 by the end of an on-ramp.
Passing? Lulz, you stuck there bro.
I ran it in the 1/4 18.3 @ 67, which means 60 happened somewhere in the 17s range.
110hp of pure 1960's 4-banger technology, plus fuel injection.
The A/C took 1/2 the Hp to run.
It barely got 24mpg.
Towing? It couldn't carry a tune.
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Melon wrote: Tue Sep 24, 2019 2:58 pm 10-12s to 60 ain't that bad.
For modern passenger cars and personal trucks, it's unheard of, but for older cars from the 90's it's livable
. Those few still trolling around.

I'd say my 2000 S-10 2.2L was dangerously slow.
You had to floor it and slam gears to hit 60 by the end of an on-ramp.
Passing? Lulz, you stuck there bro.
I ran it in the 1/4 18.3 @ 67, which means 60 happened somewhere in the 17s range.
110hp of pure 1960's 4-banger technology, plus fuel injection.
The A/C took 1/2 the Hp to run.
It barely got 24mpg.
Towing? It couldn't carry a tune.
:dat: that said, my mitsu rental is pretty damn slow and I clocked 12 :lol: it sucked!
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CorvetteWaxer wrote: Tue Sep 24, 2019 10:26 am
Huckleberry wrote: Tue Sep 24, 2019 8:56 am I voted for 9+. My 2012 Cruze was borderline with an 8.1 0-60. I was still able to manage merging and whatnot, but it did require some additional planning. Anything slower than that is downright unacceptable to me. Hell, even that Cruze was unacceptable to me.
I had a Prius for the commuter lane access before the express lane pay to use existed here. Way too much planning and still failing to pass. I never want to be in that situation again.
The gas savings definitely did not outweigh the frustrations.
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It's also pretty amazing how much faster modern cars are than vehicles from 20 years ago. Driving the Dakotas it was work just to keep up with the flow of traffic, neither were "fast" in their day, but they were more than adequate.
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Even vehicles from a decade ago are noticeably slower. It's a combination of power bumps and transmissions with 8+ gears being the norm.
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Huckleberry wrote: Wed Sep 25, 2019 8:53 am Even vehicles from a decade ago are noticeably slower. It's a combination of power bumps and transmissions with 8+ gears being the norm.
This is a very good point.
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Huckleberry wrote: Wed Sep 25, 2019 8:53 am Even vehicles from a decade ago are noticeably slower. It's a combination of power bumps and transmissions with 8+ gears being the norm.
This is a very good point.
So does everyone go above 65 all the sudden...

I was :rage: omg yesterday at my dad who kept going 45-55 on the freeway for no reason. :disgust:
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30 years ago 200hp was a muscle car
20 years ago 350hp was mind blowing
10 years ago 650 was not available in the ZR1 just yet
Today: Dodge is offering 800hp lulz.
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The E30 keeping up with modern traffic makes me think it would have been properly quick in it's day.
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I had a Prius for the commuter lane access before the express lane pay to use existed here. Way too much planning and still failing to pass. I never want to be in that situation again.
The gas savings definitely did not outweigh the frustrations.
When I had a mitsubishi mirage rental for 2 weeks, I managed to get 127 miles per tank, then 150 for the next one. In order to do 150, I have to drive like a bitch, it was terrible.
So it was either keep up with traffic and get terrible range OR drive like a granny and get a mediocre range. Would I buy it for being economical at all cost, absolutely fucking not.
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Melon wrote: Wed Sep 25, 2019 10:09 am 30 years ago 200hp was a muscle car
20 years ago 350hp was mind blowing
10 years ago 650 was not available in the ZR1 just yet
Today: Dodge is offering 800hp lulz.
30 years ago, we were coming out of the dark ages when OEs began to figure out how to make power while meeting emissions.
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MexicanYarisTK wrote: Wed Sep 25, 2019 12:28 pm
Huckleberry wrote: Wed Sep 25, 2019 8:00 am

The gas savings definitely did not outweigh the frustrations.
When I had a mitsubishi mirage rental for 2 weeks, I managed to get 127 miles per tank, then 150 for the next one. In order to do 150, I have to drive like a bitch, it was terrible.
So it was either keep up with traffic and get terrible range OR drive like a granny and get a mediocre range. Would I buy it for being economical at all cost, absolutely fucking not.
I bought the Cruze because I had a hellacious commute at the time. That purchase taught me that I'm willing to sacrifice MPGs for fun, because that car was such a miserable piece of shit.
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Huckleberry wrote: Wed Sep 25, 2019 2:13 pm
30 years ago, we were coming out of the dark ages when OEs began to figure out how to make power while meeting emissions.
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Huckleberry wrote: Wed Sep 25, 2019 2:15 pm
MexicanYarisTK wrote: Wed Sep 25, 2019 12:28 pm

When I had a mitsubishi mirage rental for 2 weeks, I managed to get 127 miles per tank, then 150 for the next one. In order to do 150, I have to drive like a bitch, it was terrible.
So it was either keep up with traffic and get terrible range OR drive like a granny and get a mediocre range. Would I buy it for being economical at all cost, absolutely fucking not.
I bought the Cruze because I had a hellacious commute at the time. That purchase taught me that I'm willing to sacrifice MPGs for fun, because that car was such a miserable piece of shit.
You can still have fun with MPGs, but you have to sacrifice space. There is always a downside. Can't have everything
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Huckleberry wrote: Wed Sep 25, 2019 2:15 pm
MexicanYarisTK wrote: Wed Sep 25, 2019 12:28 pm

When I had a mitsubishi mirage rental for 2 weeks, I managed to get 127 miles per tank, then 150 for the next one. In order to do 150, I have to drive like a bitch, it was terrible.
So it was either keep up with traffic and get terrible range OR drive like a granny and get a mediocre range. Would I buy it for being economical at all cost, absolutely fucking not.
I bought the Cruze because I had a hellacious commute at the time. That purchase taught me that I'm willing to sacrifice MPGs for fun, because that car was such a miserable piece of shit.
I can see your point, I would've done the same. After having cars like Yaris, Civic's as rentals, I just couldn't make the advertised mpg the same way I drive my GTI in terms of my definition of "normal" driving. You have to really drive like a bitch to do so.

I may sound biased, but TDI's are best in that regard, outside of passing on highway.
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max225 wrote: Wed Sep 25, 2019 2:28 pm
Huckleberry wrote: Wed Sep 25, 2019 2:15 pm

I bought the Cruze because I had a hellacious commute at the time. That purchase taught me that I'm willing to sacrifice MPGs for fun, because that car was such a miserable piece of shit.
You can still have fun with MPGs, but you have to sacrifice space. There is always a downside. Can't have everything
What I meant was that instead of going for the Cruze's 42 MPG on the highway, I would go for the GTI's 33 and have much more fun without missing those extra nine MPGs.
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Huckleberry wrote: Wed Sep 25, 2019 3:29 pm
max225 wrote: Wed Sep 25, 2019 2:28 pm

You can still have fun with MPGs, but you have to sacrifice space. There is always a downside. Can't have everything
What I meant was that instead of going for the Cruze's 42 MPG on the highway, I would go for the GTI's 33 and have much more fun without missing those extra nine MPGs.
Can you describe the commute in regards of miles one way and where? I live in NoVa but I've driven/driven past bmore county many times. I usually end up getting 35 mpg sometimes even 37-38, and that's driving 80-sometimes 90 mph on i95
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MexicanYarisTK wrote: Wed Sep 25, 2019 4:05 pm
Huckleberry wrote: Wed Sep 25, 2019 3:29 pm

What I meant was that instead of going for the Cruze's 42 MPG on the highway, I would go for the GTI's 33 and have much more fun without missing those extra nine MPGs.
Can you describe the commute in regards of miles one way and where? I live in NoVa but I've driven/driven past bmore county many times. I usually end up getting 35 mpg sometimes even 37-38, and that's driving 80-sometimes 90 mph on i95
It was about 60 miles one way going from Delaware to Allentown, Pa while I looked for an apartment closer to work. Weekends were then spent in Lincoln, De, which is where I was building my GTO.
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