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troyguitar wrote: Wed Nov 13, 2019 2:39 pm
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:gaydance: ok, wouldn't you say there is some association between the two?
If you need to work to become wealthy then it's a tough compromise since time is the only thing that you cannot buy. Generalizations for high incomes don't necessarily apply to those born into the aristocracy.
In this country "aristocracy" isn't as much of a thing. Probably less so here than anywhere else on the planet. more than 50% of the billionaires are self made. So I'd say income is hugely important.

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There's too many conversations going on here to troll all at once, so I'll do my best to tire them together,

Is Chris going to Badge Island, to hunt Mah Troy (A poor, who has more money than most of us) who is carrying the supplies of oil Chris needs to illuminate the logo for Badge island, which has a three Michelin star restaurant?
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Melon wrote: Wed Nov 13, 2019 2:42 pm There's too many conversations going on here to troll all at once, so I'll do my best to tire them together,

Is Chris going to Badge Island, to hunt Mah Troy (A poor, who has more money than most of us) who is carrying the supplies of oil Chris needs to illuminate the logo for Badge island, which has a three Michelin star restaurant?
You wouldn't have issues keeping up if you weren't a BOOMER
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max225 wrote: Wed Nov 13, 2019 2:41 pm
troyguitar wrote: Wed Nov 13, 2019 2:39 pm If you need to work to become wealthy then it's a tough compromise since time is the only thing that you cannot buy. Generalizations for high incomes don't necessarily apply to those born into the aristocracy.
In this country "aristocracy" isn't as much of a thing. Probably less so here than anywhere else on the planet. more than 50% of the billionaires are self made. So I'd say income is hugely important.

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max225 wrote: Wed Nov 13, 2019 2:41 pm

In this country "aristocracy" isn't as much of a thing. Probably less so here than anywhere else on the planet. more than 50% of the billionaires are self made. So I'd say income is hugely important.

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What is self made? If you inherited 100 million bucks, and turned it into a billion, is that self made? I'd argue of course not.
I thought that was the inherited/self made option.
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max225 wrote: Wed Nov 13, 2019 2:41 pm

In this country "aristocracy" isn't as much of a thing. Probably less so here than anywhere else on the planet. more than 50% of the billionaires are self made. So I'd say income is hugely important.

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What is self made? If you inherited 100 million bucks, and turned it into a billion, is that self made? I'd argue of course not.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/afontevecc ... e1dde2aff6
1: Inherited fortune but not working to increase it: Laurene Powell Jobs

2: Inherited fortune and has a role managing it: Forrest Mars Jr.

3: Inherited fortune and helping to increase it marginally: Penny Pritzker

4: Inherited fortune and increasing it in a meaningful way: Henry Ross Perot Jr.

5: Inherited small or medium-size business and made it into a ten-digit fortune: George Kaiser

6: Hired or hands-off investor who didn’t create the business: Meg Whitman

7: Self-made who got a head start from wealthy parents and moneyed background: Rupert Murdoch

8: Self-made who came from a middle- or upper-middle-class background: Mark Zuckerberg

9: Self-made who came from a largely working-class background; rose from little to nothing: Eddie Lampert

10: Self-made who not only grew up poor but also overcame significant obstacles: Oprah Winfrey
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troyguitar wrote: Wed Nov 13, 2019 2:39 pm If you need to work to become wealthy then it's a tough compromise since time is the only thing that you cannot buy. Generalizations for high incomes don't necessarily apply to those born into the aristocracy.
In this country "aristocracy" isn't as much of a thing. Probably less so here than anywhere else on the planet. more than 50% of the billionaires are self made. So I'd say income is hugely important.

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This is not the best country to live in :doe:

It's only great for a handful of demographics: primarily middle class workaholics, :jesus: freaks, and gun nuts.
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I thought that was the inherited/self made option.
I can't tell. Bad chart is bad and seemingly intentionally.
All you need to know is that you're not included in the data for that chart, yet.
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[user not found] wrote: Wed Nov 13, 2019 2:47 pm
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I thought that was the inherited/self made option.
I can't tell. Bad chart is bad and seemingly intentionally.
Better get that eye glass prescription updated boomer.
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troyguitar wrote: Wed Nov 13, 2019 2:47 pm
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In this country "aristocracy" isn't as much of a thing. Probably less so here than anywhere else on the planet. more than 50% of the billionaires are self made. So I'd say income is hugely important.

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This is not the best country to live in :doe:

It's only great for a handful of demographics: primarily middle class workaholics, :jesus: freaks, and gun nuts.
You're none of those, so why are you still dealing with it here?
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What if you're building up a collection of appreciating classic cars slowly but surely?
Also enjoying yourself in the process.
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troyguitar wrote: Wed Nov 13, 2019 2:47 pm
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In this country "aristocracy" isn't as much of a thing. Probably less so here than anywhere else on the planet. more than 50% of the billionaires are self made. So I'd say income is hugely important.

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This is not the best country to live in :doe:

It's only great for a handful of demographics: primarily middle class workaholics, :jesus: freaks, and gun nuts.
That is a debatable point.
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Melon wrote: Wed Nov 13, 2019 2:49 pm What if you're building up a collection of appreciating classic cars slowly but surely?
Also enjoying yourself in the process.
Are you asking for a friend?
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Melon wrote: Wed Nov 13, 2019 2:49 pm What if you're building up a collection of appreciating classic cars slowly but surely?
Also enjoying yourself in the process.
Look BOOMER, haven't you heard that kids don't like cars so their prices are about to fall out from under them? Also, Gretta says "Fuck you, how could you?!".
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Melon wrote: Wed Nov 13, 2019 2:49 pm What if you're building up a collection of appreciating classic cars slowly but surely?
Also enjoying yourself in the process.
Look BOOMER, haven't you heard that kids don't like cars so their prices are about to fall out from under them? Also, Gretta says "Fuck you, how could you?!".
Good point. I better drive the shit out of them instead.
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troyguitar wrote: Wed Nov 13, 2019 2:47 pm This is not the best country to live in :doe:

It's only great for a handful of demographics: primarily middle class workaholics, :jesus: freaks, and gun nuts.
You're none of those, so why are you still dealing with it here?
Same reason you're still in California.
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Look BOOMER, haven't you heard that kids don't like cars so their prices are about to fall out from under them? Also, Gretta says "Fuck you, how could you?!".
Good point. I better drive the shit out of them instead.
Please make sure you adjust the mixture so they run very rich and remove any cats they may have on them first.
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troyguitar wrote: Wed Nov 13, 2019 2:52 pm
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You're none of those, so why are you still dealing with it here?
Same reason you're still in California.
You're succeeding at your job?
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I love that there are TWO people that achieved the American dream. Just fantastic example of all that is wrong.
Looks like you need to read the article.
The oldest person on The Forbes 400 is Sumner Redstone, age 95, worth $4.8 billion. The youngest is Snapchat cofounder and CEO Evan Spiegel, age 28 and worth $2.2 billion. He is one of just 12 people on list under age 40.

At 269, list members with self-made fortunes vastly outnumber those who inherited wealth (64 members), and those who inherited a fortune and have worked significantly to increase it --what Forbes calls “inherited and growing” (67 members).
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troyguitar wrote: Wed Nov 13, 2019 2:52 pm Same reason you're still in California.
You're succeeding at your job?
Oh I thought your wife's job was the only reason you are staying. You still want to bust ass for more money, even after the health shit?
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Looks like you need to read the article.

Two poor people on the list. Two.
There shouldn't be any, its the 400 wealthiest americans. Don't be poor make the list.
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Good point. I better drive the shit out of them instead.
Please make sure you adjust the mixture so they run very rich and remove any cats they may have on them first.
:bruh: Funny you mention this...

E30 is running really rich, I believe it's due to a bad exhaust leak causing bad O2 readings.
Driving back from NOLA last Saturday (~70mi) it burned 8.2Gal of gas.

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troyguitar wrote: Wed Nov 13, 2019 2:55 pm
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You're succeeding at your job?
Oh I thought your wife's job was the only reason you are staying. You still want to bust ass for more money, even after the health shit?
I have three basic reasons for being here, in this order:

1. I have great health care for myself and my wife with almost no deductibles or minimums.
2. I make more money in a year than many people will make in 20 (or in some cases their life), and I actually like my job as many of my employees are friends, some like family.
3. My wife will make 10x more monthly out of her retirement if she stays another ~6 years vs leaving now after working 24 years on the job.
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Melon wrote: Wed Nov 13, 2019 2:58 pm
CorvetteWaxer wrote: Wed Nov 13, 2019 2:53 pm

Please make sure you adjust the mixture so they run very rich and remove any cats they may have on them first.
:bruh: Funny you mention this...

E30 is running really rich, I believe it's due to a bad exhaust leak causing bad O2 readings.
Driving back from NOLA last Saturday (~70mi) it burned 8.2Gal of gas.

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Melon wrote: Wed Nov 13, 2019 2:52 pm
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Look BOOMER, haven't you heard that kids don't like cars so their prices are about to fall out from under them? Also, Gretta says "Fuck you, how could you?!".
Good point. I better drive the shit out of them instead.
no safety features, you'll surely be dead.

Also slow steering

Also no powah

Also no Android Auto



Seems like a pretty shitty experience to me.
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