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Johnny_P wrote: Tue Oct 15, 2019 12:55 pm
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I would say :whocares: if the OTD price is good, but I got burned on my Civic :dill: that way... we agreed on OTD then when they delivered the car to make the deal, they hadn't included tax in OTD. :disgust:

I wish they had, after driving the Si this weekend, it's more fun than the Beemah. The tech is very annoying though.
:wat: Si did you drive this weekend? I must have missed something.

I wouldn't put up with that shit either. If you can't make 99% of the numbers work over email / phone in 2019 then I have no interest in stepping inside the place. The 1% is the trade in value number, but you can get in the ballpark on it.
No trade in for us so I expect to be able to get to 100% via email. There should be no good reason why that's not possible, as you said.
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CaleDeRoo wrote: Tue Oct 15, 2019 12:59 pm
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Maybe when I'm ready to replace my :turboyaris:
If/when certainly do! He's definitely a car guy
Thanks for the heads up! :like:
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wap wrote: Tue Oct 15, 2019 12:32 pm
wap wrote: Tue Oct 15, 2019 12:06 pm Will do.
Here's the window sticker of the car.
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So sticker price is $28,915
Price on their website is $24841 so $4074 or ~ 15% off
Sandy's "internet sale price" was $22,995, another $1846 off web price and $5920 off sticker price. :notbad:
Ted's "OTD" price yesterday was $25,491 after his :bs: about not knowing "what Sandy was thinking".

Title and license xfer fees in Illinois are 95+101=$196
Doc rape is $180
Sales tax where I live is $7.5%

I can't make the :math: work:

22995 x 1.075 + 95 + 101 + 180 = $25,096. Where does the extra $395 come from?
Nearest I can tell is he's starting with $23,363 x 1.075 + 95 + 101 + 180 = 25491
What fees/extras am I missing?



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D Griff wrote: Tue Oct 15, 2019 8:58 am OK, this is a good reason.
I guess, I’d rather new car. https://www.premiersubaruoffremont.com/ ... 8a1513.htm

I’m sure you can get this for around 25 pre tax
I'm only really interested in a yellow :manuel: limited with the performance package... which is fortunately how all of the yellow ones were equipped.

White is a distant maybe but any other color is definitely out.
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MexicanYarisTK wrote: Tue Oct 15, 2019 1:14 pm
wap wrote: Tue Oct 15, 2019 12:32 pm

So sticker price is $28,915
Price on their website is $24841 so $4074 or ~ 15% off
Sandy's "internet sale price" was $22,995, another $1846 off web price and $5920 off sticker price. :notbad:
Ted's "OTD" price yesterday was $25,491 after his :bs: about not knowing "what Sandy was thinking".

Title and license xfer fees in Illinois are 95+101=$196
Doc rape is $180
Sales tax where I live is $7.5%

I can't make the :math: work:

22995 x 1.075 + 95 + 101 + 180 = $25,096. Where does the extra $395 come from?
Nearest I can tell is he's starting with $23,363 x 1.075 + 95 + 101 + 180 = 25491
What fees/extras am I missing?



Also, Sandy, for :science:
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Hmm she needs turkish :dock: to lowball for $5k





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troyguitar wrote: Tue Oct 15, 2019 1:15 pm
max225 wrote:
I guess, I’d rather new car. https://www.premiersubaruoffremont.com/ ... 8a1513.htm

I’m sure you can get this for around 25 pre tax
I'm only really interested in a yellow :manuel: limited with the performance package... which is fortunately how all of the yellow ones were equipped.

White is a distant maybe but any other color is definitely out.
Why do you do this to yourself :lol: I mean you'd think a WR blue subaru is the way to go... but :unicorn: yellow will make this an epic hunt, and remove you from any possibility of a new headache free car.
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troyguitar wrote: Tue Oct 15, 2019 1:15 pm I'm only really interested in a yellow :manuel: limited with the performance package... which is fortunately how all of the yellow ones were equipped.

White is a distant maybe but any other color is definitely out.
Why do you do this to yourself Image I mean you'd think a WR blue subaru is the way to go... but :unicorn: yellow will make this an epic hunt, and remove you from any possibility of a new headache free car.
:notsure:

The limited trim and performance pack both include substantive upgrades and color is the most important aspect of the look of a car. I'd rather get a bright ass green Mirage than a black Corvette.

5 figures is a lot of money to me and I'm not spending it unless I get exactly what I want. If I can make this happen, it's also likely the last fun car I'll be able to buy.
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Johnny_P wrote: Tue Oct 15, 2019 12:55 pm
D Griff wrote: Tue Oct 15, 2019 12:50 pm

I would say :whocares: if the OTD price is good, but I got burned on my Civic :dill: that way... we agreed on OTD then when they delivered the car to make the deal, they hadn't included tax in OTD. :disgust:

I wish they had, after driving the Si this weekend, it's more fun than the Beemah. The tech is very annoying though.
:wat: Si did you drive this weekend? I must have missed something.

I wouldn't put up with that shit either. If you can't make 99% of the numbers work over email / phone in 2019 then I have no interest in stepping inside the place. The 1% is the trade in value number, but you can get in the ballpark on it.
I rented one on Turo while in Miami for the weekend... I'll post some impressions eventually.
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max225 wrote: Tue Oct 15, 2019 1:33 pm
troyguitar wrote: Tue Oct 15, 2019 1:15 pm I'm only really interested in a yellow :manuel: limited with the performance package... which is fortunately how all of the yellow ones were equipped.

White is a distant maybe but any other color is definitely out.
Why do you do this to yourself :lol: I mean you'd think a WR blue subaru is the way to go... but :unicorn: yellow will make this an epic hunt, and remove you from any possibility of a new headache free car.
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wap wrote: Mon Oct 14, 2019 9:59 pm Pics of car in question.
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If you're going to get a Hyundai, just get a Kia Stinger, avoid the need for seppuku.
Not for me. It's for the Mrs and she :aintcare: about performance, cool factor, etc. It's really the perfect :toaster: for her.
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So, more :tits: logic.
The first car I showed her was the Mazda 6. She absolutely HATED the front end. Said the grill was huge, ugliest thing she's ever seen, etc.
So this makes her :gag: :disgust:
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But this is totally :notbad:
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:lolwut:

Personally, neither offend me at all but :tits: :iono:
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wap wrote: Tue Oct 15, 2019 3:35 pm So, more :tits: logic.
The first car I showed her was the Mazda 6. She absolutely HATED the front end. Said the grill was huge, ugliest thing she's ever seen, etc.
So this makes her :gag: :disgust:
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But this is totally :notbad:
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:lolwut:

Personally, neither offend me at all but :tits: :iono:
:disgust:

:fullretard: logic.
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wap wrote: Tue Oct 15, 2019 3:35 pm So, more :tits: logic.
The first car I showed her was the Mazda 6. She absolutely HATED the front end. Said the grill was huge, ugliest thing she's ever seen, etc.
So this makes her :gag: :disgust:
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But this is totally :notbad:
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:lolwut:

Personally, neither offend me at all but :tits: :iono:
:disgust:

:tits: logic.
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troyguitar wrote: Tue Oct 15, 2019 1:40 pm
max225 wrote:
Why do you do this to yourself Image I mean you'd think a WR blue subaru is the way to go... but :unicorn: yellow will make this an epic hunt, and remove you from any possibility of a new headache free car.
:notsure:

The limited trim and performance pack both include substantive upgrades and color is the most important aspect of the look of a car. I'd rather get a bright ass green Mirage than a black Corvette.

5 figures is a lot of money to me and I'm not spending it unless I get exactly what I want. If I can make this happen, it's also likely the last fun car I'll be able to buy.
Isn’t that the TS trim or whatever now ? There is also a performance package with “Sachs” dampers and brembros, is that what you want ?
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troyguitar wrote: Tue Oct 15, 2019 1:40 pm :notsure:

The limited trim and performance pack both include substantive upgrades and color is the most important aspect of the look of a car. I'd rather get a bright ass green Mirage than a black Corvette.

5 figures is a lot of money to me and I'm not spending it unless I get exactly what I want. If I can make this happen, it's also likely the last fun car I'll be able to buy.
Isn’t that the TS trim or whatever now ? There is also a performance package with “Sachs” dampers and brembros, is that what you want ?
The ts is some track special or something, only comes in black with a giant wing on it.

Performance package is a $1200 option on the Subaru and includes fixed calipers at all 4 corners, wider wheels, and better dampers. It's a steal.
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Ts came in white
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Johnny_P wrote:Ts came in white
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Yeah that one. It's a performance package car with a stupid wing, a stupid body kit, and stupid 18" wheels that are no wider all for an extra bunch of money. :fullretard:

Toyota has a TRD SE 86 that's only black and similar in equipment.
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Found another bloo Sonata Limited in Indiana so I reached out through their website just to get competitive pricing.

I asked for their best OTD price, broken down to show TTL, Doc rapeage, and gave Erin my town and county so they could figure the tax.

This is the reply that I got. :dillerman:
I would love to set you up for a VIP appointment directly with my sales manager to get your hands on this Hyundai Sonata, take it for a test drive, and really get a feel for the vehicle! Today we are open until 9 PM, were you more availble today or tomorrow?
This was my reply:
Erin,

For now I'd just like your best out the door price, broken down as I requested. This is a requirement before I would come in. Thanks.

We'll see what happens next. The cars are pretty much identical but I'd rather not drive to Indiana. There are not nearly enough [user not found]'s in this business.

:rage: It's the fucking 21st century. This should be doable in less than an hour via email, with 30-60 minutes in the showroom to sign shit and write a check. This business model is so :fullretard: :rage:

Also, Erin for :science:
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Erin replied:
As out the door prices do come from management, I will have to touch base with my sales manager to get you that price. I will forward it to you once it comes back to me.

Looking forward to earning your business,
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I dealt with this BS when Jeep shopping. Absolutely terrible.
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I got a call today from an internet inquiry I made like 6 weeks ago. :lol: they don’t give up.
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Heard from Erin's sales person.
Thank you for your patience. Assuming the zip code you provided is correct, you total out the door price on this Sonata Limited is $27,091.26. Below I have included additional pictures and information on the Sonata. Please let me know when we should expect you here, so I can have my manager on hand. We look forward to earning your business.
Yes you cow, I know my own zip code. :rolleyes:

I replied: Thank you for the number, but as I've asked a couple of times now, please provide a breakdown of that price. What are the individual costs for title, license fee, your doc fee, and tax? Zip code is correct.


Unbelievable.

On a positive note, this price is $1600 higher than the place that's much closer to my :haus: , so that's good to know.
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Detroit wrote: Tue Oct 15, 2019 7:46 pm I dealt with this BS when Jeep shopping. Absolutely terrible.
It's insane.
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