Car Talk 4: The Richard Hertz Rent-A-Car 500

Brothers of brub and brap, this is your safe space.
User avatar
CaleDeRoo
Senior Master Sirloin
Senior Master Sirloin
Posts: 8011
Joined: Tue Nov 13, 2018 8:46 pm
Drives: C5
Location: CLT NC

Pretty sure the facilities JGC passed the moose test
User avatar
max225
Chief Master Sirloin of the Wasteful Steak
Chief Master Sirloin of the Wasteful Steak
Posts: 42432
Joined: Thu Nov 03, 2016 12:49 am
Drives: Taco+ Bavarian lemon

Ah Money.... fixes everything
User avatar
goIftdibrad
Chief Master Soft Brain
Chief Master Soft Brain
Posts: 16746
Joined: Thu Nov 03, 2016 9:01 am
Drives: straight past the apex

max225 wrote: Thu Sep 12, 2019 2:02 pm

RAV 4 can't pass the Aryan moose test.... gotta sit up higher and higher :doe: for sAfEtY
:lolol: that looks awful. Looks like they are fucking locking a tire ON PURPOSE to slide it to prevent a rollover.
brain go brrrrrr
User avatar
razr390
Command Chief Master Sirloin
Command Chief Master Sirloin
Posts: 19644
Joined: Thu Nov 03, 2016 12:08 am
Drives: MK7.5 on 87

Been running 87 in the GTI and everything seems fine for now. :dolphin:
:doughnut: :narc: :doughnut:
Desertbreh wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2019 3:05 pm DFD. The forum where everybody makes the same choices and then tells anybody trying to join the club that they are the stupidest motherfucker to ever walk the earth.
User avatar
Johnny_P
Chief Master Sirloin of the Wasteful Steak
Chief Master Sirloin of the Wasteful Steak
Posts: 40487
Joined: Thu Nov 03, 2016 9:52 am
Drives: Blue short bus
Location: Philly

razr390 wrote: Fri Sep 13, 2019 1:21 pm Been running 87 in the GTI and everything seems fine for now. :dolphin:
I wish I could run 87. Price gap is widened again it’s averaging around $0.60/gal now. :disgust:
User avatar
CaleDeRoo
Senior Master Sirloin
Senior Master Sirloin
Posts: 8011
Joined: Tue Nov 13, 2018 8:46 pm
Drives: C5
Location: CLT NC

Johnny_P wrote: Fri Sep 13, 2019 4:02 pm
razr390 wrote: Fri Sep 13, 2019 1:21 pm Been running 87 in the GTI and everything seems fine for now. :dolphin:
I wish I could run 87. Price gap is widened again it’s averaging around $0.60/gal now. :disgust:
Price gap here was the same early this summer. Not sure what it is now I just know 93 has gone down $0.30/gal since spring :notbad:
User avatar
wap
Chief Master Sirloin of the Wasteful Steak
Chief Master Sirloin of the Wasteful Steak
Posts: 45161
Joined: Wed Nov 02, 2016 11:52 pm
Drives: Blue Meanie
Location: Pepperland

razr390 wrote: Fri Sep 13, 2019 1:21 pm Been running 87 in the GTI and everything seems fine for now. :dolphin:
:thisisfine: :doomed: :crang:
:wap: Where are these mangos?
Detroit wrote: Fri Apr 16, 2021 1:19 pm I don't understand anything anymore.
User avatar
wap
Chief Master Sirloin of the Wasteful Steak
Chief Master Sirloin of the Wasteful Steak
Posts: 45161
Joined: Wed Nov 02, 2016 11:52 pm
Drives: Blue Meanie
Location: Pepperland

Johnny_P wrote: Fri Sep 13, 2019 4:02 pm
razr390 wrote: Fri Sep 13, 2019 1:21 pm Been running 87 in the GTI and everything seems fine for now. :dolphin:
I wish I could run 87. Price gap is widened again it’s averaging around $0.60/gal now. :disgust:
It's' been .$80 here most of the spring and summer.
:wap: Where are these mangos?
Detroit wrote: Fri Apr 16, 2021 1:19 pm I don't understand anything anymore.
User avatar
razr390
Command Chief Master Sirloin
Command Chief Master Sirloin
Posts: 19644
Joined: Thu Nov 03, 2016 12:08 am
Drives: MK7.5 on 87

wap wrote: Fri Sep 13, 2019 11:10 pm
razr390 wrote: Fri Sep 13, 2019 1:21 pm Been running 87 in the GTI and everything seems fine for now. :dolphin:
:thisisfine: :doomed: :crang:
Car seems still low end peppy so I don’t think anything is up. Just won’t get peak power and torque but not like that matters anyways in my 5 mile commute of 0-45 mph
:doughnut: :narc: :doughnut:
Desertbreh wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2019 3:05 pm DFD. The forum where everybody makes the same choices and then tells anybody trying to join the club that they are the stupidest motherfucker to ever walk the earth.
User avatar
wap
Chief Master Sirloin of the Wasteful Steak
Chief Master Sirloin of the Wasteful Steak
Posts: 45161
Joined: Wed Nov 02, 2016 11:52 pm
Drives: Blue Meanie
Location: Pepperland

razr390 wrote: Sat Sep 14, 2019 12:09 am
wap wrote: Fri Sep 13, 2019 11:10 pm

:thisisfine: :doomed: :crang:
Car seems still low end peppy so I don’t think anything is up. Just won’t get peak power and torque but not like that matters anyways in my 5 mile commute of 0-45 mph
:wrong:
All :plaid: :stig: all the time or :gtfo:
:wap: Where are these mangos?
Detroit wrote: Fri Apr 16, 2021 1:19 pm I don't understand anything anymore.
User avatar
max225
Chief Master Sirloin of the Wasteful Steak
Chief Master Sirloin of the Wasteful Steak
Posts: 42432
Joined: Thu Nov 03, 2016 12:49 am
Drives: Taco+ Bavarian lemon

razr390 wrote: Sat Sep 14, 2019 12:09 am
wap wrote: Fri Sep 13, 2019 11:10 pm

:thisisfine: :doomed: :crang:
Car seems still low end peppy so I don’t think anything is up. Just won’t get peak power and torque but not like that matters anyways in my 5 mile commute of 0-45 mph
Isn't yours rated for 87 anyways ? :whocares: you don’t need premium period.
User avatar
CaleDeRoo
Senior Master Sirloin
Senior Master Sirloin
Posts: 8011
Joined: Tue Nov 13, 2018 8:46 pm
Drives: C5
Location: CLT NC

If I don't think about the two engines I went through in 20k miles I miss this car :wub:

Image

Sent from my Moto Z (2) using Tapatalk
User avatar
troyguitar
Command Chief Master Sirloin
Command Chief Master Sirloin
Posts: 20088
Joined: Wed Nov 02, 2016 11:15 pm
Drives: Trek Domane
Location: Swamp

Looks like the Forte GT started hitting the ground this week. :whocares:



The nearest one to me is 90 minutes away in Rochester, as usual. Black on black automatic but I might go drive it sometime for :science:

I actually want an E90 M3 but this is the car that I expect to buy if it lives up to the specs.
User avatar
Swedish Chef
Meat Patty 2nd Class
Meat Patty 2nd Class
Posts: 354
Joined: Thu Jan 17, 2019 7:05 am
Drives: 2013 Mini Pooper
Location: NC

troyguitar wrote: Sat Sep 14, 2019 6:37 pm Looks like the Forte GT started hitting the ground this week. :whocares:



The nearest one to me is 90 minutes away in Rochester, as usual. Black on black automatic but I might go drive it sometime for :science:

I actually want an E90 M3 but this is the car that I expect to buy if it lives up to the specs.
E90 M3 vs Kiaundai Fortlantra?
Seems legit.
User avatar
Apex
Chief Master Sirloin of the Wasteful Steak
Chief Master Sirloin of the Wasteful Steak
Posts: 29815
Joined: Wed Nov 02, 2016 10:36 pm
Drives: Abominable
Location: NJ

Swedish Chef wrote: Sat Sep 14, 2019 7:53 pm
troyguitar wrote: Sat Sep 14, 2019 6:37 pm Looks like the Forte GT started hitting the ground this week. :whocares:



The nearest one to me is 90 minutes away in Rochester, as usual. Black on black automatic but I might go drive it sometime for :science:

I actually want an E90 M3 but this is the car that I expect to buy if it lives up to the specs.
E90 M3 vs Kiaundai Fortlantra?
Seems legit.
:whalecum: to DFD.
User avatar
troyguitar
Command Chief Master Sirloin
Command Chief Master Sirloin
Posts: 20088
Joined: Wed Nov 02, 2016 11:15 pm
Drives: Trek Domane
Location: Swamp

Swedish Chef wrote:
troyguitar wrote: Sat Sep 14, 2019 6:37 pm Looks like the Forte GT started hitting the ground this week. :whocares:



The nearest one to me is 90 minutes away in Rochester, as usual. Black on black automatic but I might go drive it sometime for :science:

I actually want an E90 M3 but this is the car that I expect to buy if it lives up to the specs.
E90 M3 vs Kiaundai Fortlantra?
Seems legit.
Same price to buy, same size and form factor, same wheelbase, same type of transmission 7-speed DCT, same super quick ratio steering, same availability of base cloth sport seats and no sunroof and folding rear seats without the rest of the car being super base.

:iono: :wrong:

Do you have a better option for me?
User avatar
Desertbreh
Chief Master Sirloin
Chief Master Sirloin
Posts: 16805
Joined: Thu Nov 03, 2016 11:31 am
Location: Beyond Thunderdome

Swedish Chef wrote: Sat Sep 14, 2019 7:53 pm
troyguitar wrote: Sat Sep 14, 2019 6:37 pm Looks like the Forte GT started hitting the ground this week. :whocares:



The nearest one to me is 90 minutes away in Rochester, as usual. Black on black automatic but I might go drive it sometime for :science:

I actually want an E90 M3 but this is the car that I expect to buy if it lives up to the specs.
E90 M3 vs Kiaundai Fortlantra?
Seems legit.
Looks like a fun DD for notta lotta. Troy is omitting a few deets in his comparison like which wheels get driven and a 50% power cut and a 100% Rolex matchability cut but a fun new car with a warranty in the low 20s does not suck.
Detroit wrote:Buy 911s instead of diamonds.
Johnny_P wrote: Thu Feb 09, 2023 3:21 pm Earn it and burn it, Val.
max225 wrote: Mon May 01, 2023 5:35 pm Yes it's a cool car. But prepare the lube/sawdust.
User avatar
Swedish Chef
Meat Patty 2nd Class
Meat Patty 2nd Class
Posts: 354
Joined: Thu Jan 17, 2019 7:05 am
Drives: 2013 Mini Pooper
Location: NC

Desertbreh wrote: Sun Sep 15, 2019 1:47 am
Swedish Chef wrote: Sat Sep 14, 2019 7:53 pm

E90 M3 vs Kiaundai Fortlantra?
Seems legit.
Looks like a fun DD for notta lotta. Troy is omitting a few deets in his comparison like which wheels get driven and a 50% power cut and a 100% Rolex matchability cut but a fun new car with a warranty in the low 20s does not suck.
The Forte doesn’t suck at all, but I can’t see one cross shopping the two.

I’m not sure what Troy is looking for but your typical Forte duty as a year round DD would kind of suck with an M3 in a place like NY.
User avatar
Desertbreh
Chief Master Sirloin
Chief Master Sirloin
Posts: 16805
Joined: Thu Nov 03, 2016 11:31 am
Location: Beyond Thunderdome

Swedish Chef wrote: Sun Sep 15, 2019 2:04 am
Desertbreh wrote: Sun Sep 15, 2019 1:47 am

Looks like a fun DD for notta lotta. Troy is omitting a few deets in his comparison like which wheels get driven and a 50% power cut and a 100% Rolex matchability cut but a fun new car with a warranty in the low 20s does not suck.
The Forte doesn’t suck at all, but I can’t see one cross shopping the two.

I’m not sure what Troy is looking for but your typical Forte duty as a year round DD would kind of suck with an M3 in a place like NY.
He does things like this on the reg.
Detroit wrote:Buy 911s instead of diamonds.
Johnny_P wrote: Thu Feb 09, 2023 3:21 pm Earn it and burn it, Val.
max225 wrote: Mon May 01, 2023 5:35 pm Yes it's a cool car. But prepare the lube/sawdust.
User avatar
Johnny_P
Chief Master Sirloin of the Wasteful Steak
Chief Master Sirloin of the Wasteful Steak
Posts: 40487
Joined: Thu Nov 03, 2016 9:52 am
Drives: Blue short bus
Location: Philly

troyguitar wrote: Sat Sep 14, 2019 9:20 pm
Swedish Chef wrote:
E90 M3 vs Kiaundai Fortlantra?
Seems legit.
Same price to buy, same size and form factor, same wheelbase, same type of transmission 7-speed DCT, same super quick ratio steering, same availability of base cloth sport seats and no sunroof and folding rear seats without the rest of the car being super base.

:iono: :wrong:

Do you have a better option for me?
In 4 results. Would you cross shop it with an Si? The Honda will hold value better.
User avatar
Johnny_P
Chief Master Sirloin of the Wasteful Steak
Chief Master Sirloin of the Wasteful Steak
Posts: 40487
Joined: Thu Nov 03, 2016 9:52 am
Drives: Blue short bus
Location: Philly

Starting to wonder if a #basic McQueen spec 328i or something would be a better pick for me. 2.0T Giulia, S60, etc.

Anyone have seat time in both the sedan and the CUV counterpart care to share how they handle bullshit roads? I’d think less weight would crash less but more suspension travel may ride softer??

New S60 is a looker and a half but $46k ish ouch.
User avatar
D Griff
Trollistrator
Trollistrator
Posts: 28792
Joined: Thu Nov 03, 2016 8:49 am
Drives: Bicycles/Two Feet

Johnny_P wrote: Sun Sep 15, 2019 9:28 am Starting to wonder if a #basic McQueen spec 328i or something would be a better pick for me. 2.0T Giulia, S60, etc.

Anyone have seat time in both the sedan and the CUV counterpart care to share how they handle bullshit roads? I’d think less weight would crash less but more suspension travel may ride softer??

New S60 is a looker and a half but $46k ish ouch.
Granted I’m used to a bus and :poorvette: but my 328i even with M Sport suspension rides quite nicely and soaks up potholes quite well. I’d probably get some 17s/marshmallows if I lived in Baghdad, but I think it would work well. It’s a bit fun but overall just a nice commute machine that is rather fuel efficient and affordable.

I was shooting the shit with a dude last night who leases a Guilia, he loves it but says the reliability has been awful, sadly. It’s stranded him a few times.

Used is key in this category... my $42k MSRP car was $21k with 15k miles...
User avatar
Johnny_P
Chief Master Sirloin of the Wasteful Steak
Chief Master Sirloin of the Wasteful Steak
Posts: 40487
Joined: Thu Nov 03, 2016 9:52 am
Drives: Blue short bus
Location: Philly

D Griff wrote: Sun Sep 15, 2019 9:55 am
Johnny_P wrote: Sun Sep 15, 2019 9:28 am Starting to wonder if a #basic McQueen spec 328i or something would be a better pick for me. 2.0T Giulia, S60, etc.

Anyone have seat time in both the sedan and the CUV counterpart care to share how they handle bullshit roads? I’d think less weight would crash less but more suspension travel may ride softer??

New S60 is a looker and a half but $46k ish ouch.
Granted I’m used to a bus and :poorvette: but my 328i even with M Sport suspension rides quite nicely and soaks up potholes quite well. I’d probably get some 17s/marshmallows if I lived in Baghdad, but I think it would work well. It’s a bit fun but overall just a nice commute machine that is rather fuel efficient and affordable.

I was shooting the shit with a dude last night who leases a Guilia, he loves it but says the reliability has been awful, sadly. It’s stranded him a few times.

Used is key in this category... my $42k MSRP car was $21k with 15k miles...
That’s the thing. Used they’re less than a new crosstrek.

What year is his Giulia? First model year ones were basket cases but I hear they’re improving. I don’t want to be stranded by my car. Giulia is supposed to ride rather soft. All these are available with strong motors that get decent fuel mileage and can be had with AWD. So it’s a win win if it all works out.

Thing is I don’t really want a sport sedan. I don’t want to care about fun I just want a nice riding thing I can not care about that still has passing power.
User avatar
D Griff
Trollistrator
Trollistrator
Posts: 28792
Joined: Thu Nov 03, 2016 8:49 am
Drives: Bicycles/Two Feet

Johnny_P wrote: Sun Sep 15, 2019 10:02 am
D Griff wrote: Sun Sep 15, 2019 9:55 am

Granted I’m used to a bus and :poorvette: but my 328i even with M Sport suspension rides quite nicely and soaks up potholes quite well. I’d probably get some 17s/marshmallows if I lived in Baghdad, but I think it would work well. It’s a bit fun but overall just a nice commute machine that is rather fuel efficient and affordable.

I was shooting the shit with a dude last night who leases a Guilia, he loves it but says the reliability has been awful, sadly. It’s stranded him a few times.

Used is key in this category... my $42k MSRP car was $21k with 15k miles...
That’s the thing. Used they’re less than a new crosstrek.

What year is his Giulia? First model year ones were basket cases but I hear they’re improving. I don’t want to be stranded by my car. Giulia is supposed to ride rather soft. All these are available with strong motors that get decent fuel mileage and can be had with AWD. So it’s a win win if it all works out.

Thing is I don’t really want a sport sedan. I don’t want to care about fun I just want a nice riding thing I can not care about that still has passing power.
I mean... no harm in it being decent to drive when you end up on a back road heading to a ride/hike or whatever. I’m not sure on the year of his Guilia, but he seems to love it, maybe a new lease would be a good bet.

I think any of these will ride nice and soak up bumps. I’ve taken my sport model on many dirt roads, hikes, camping, whatever. A Crosstrek thingy really isn’t needed for most, it’s just style mostly. I also drove an XDrive in the snow at Mount Rainier and it was good.
User avatar
D Griff
Trollistrator
Trollistrator
Posts: 28792
Joined: Thu Nov 03, 2016 8:49 am
Drives: Bicycles/Two Feet

FWIW I average 27ish commuting around town in my 328i and it does quite well on the freeway, low mid thirties. The auto is better on gas too.
Locked