Car Talk 4: The Richard Hertz Rent-A-Car 500

[coogles]

Wow. looks pretty great.

[Johnny_P]

Wow. looks pretty great.

We have a white/red coming in - I'm to see that in person.

I'll offer my driving impressions of the 3 later today.

[Johnny_P]

This is hot.

I dig it. New interior is a huge step up from the last one. Red leather is neat.

Is this the 2.5L engine or the new skyactivX?

[coogles]

Koolaid is good, doe.

I'm tres impressed with the new 3 - my only complaint is the lack of a turbro.

The loss of the multi-link for a torsion beam rear is a bit , but I realize it'll probably matter exactly none for anyone who's looking at one of these.

[Apex]

Dat red leather is
New 3 looks like a place to spend some time in.

[Johnny_P]

I dig it. New interior is a huge step up from the last one. Red leather is neat.

Is this the 2.5L engine or the new skyactivX?

Skyactiv-X won't be out until the 2020 MY car most likely.

Probably still fine. The 2.5 has enough zip for something this size.

[MexicanYarisTK]

Wow. looks pretty great.

We have a white/red coming in - I'm to see that in person.

I'll offer my driving impressions of the 3 later today.

Deets on price and mileage, and specs. Looking forward before i get one local

Edit: i thought it was a BMW but yeah keep dat posted

[wap]

Wow. looks pretty great.

[Davestr]

While this certainly makes business sense, I think BMWs average buyer has to clue and/or no care about depreciation. I mean my car dropped $20k in 15k miles... Nuts .

But I have this friend, DINK husband and wife I'm sure pulling over $300k combined. They just bought (not leased) a brand new X1. I jokingly called my car the Ultimate Depreciation Machine and he was confused to be sure. They have no clue about the maintenance or that their $45k car will be worth $20k in two years... Then when it becomes "unreliable" in 2021 because it needs some rape maintenance, they'll just trade it in and it'll be what it will be. These are two super smart people too, people just don't care/think about cars enough to realize a RAV4 wouldn't do that.

However, I would never recommend anyone buy a new BMW, ever.

[Davestr]

Dat red leather is
New 3 looks like a place to spend some time in.

[D Griff]

Wow. looks pretty great.

We have a white/red coming in - I'm to see that in person.

I'll offer my driving impressions of the 3 later today.

Pretty awesome that :manuel; is actually a thing getting shipped to and not just some spec sheet non existent shit.

[MexicanYarisTK]

Deets on price and mileage, and specs. Looking forward before i get one local

Edit: i thought it was a BMW but yeah keep dat posted

$28500 - 35-40 MPGs - 186 HP.

Comfy AF, doe.

i might probably be in the market long as it takes regular, lighter than my yaris, this might be cake. I'm just pretty unpredictable with my next move

[Irish]

We have a white/red coming in - I'm to see that in person.

I'll offer my driving impressions of the 3 later today.

Pretty awesome that :manuel; is actually a thing getting shipped to and not just some spec sheet non existent shit.

I hooned around with one with a murdered, lowered, black one with the other day..... it was sharp as hell

[MexicanYarisTK]

i might probably be in the market long as it takes regular, lighter than my yaris, this might be cake. I'm just pretty unpredictable with my next move

Regular gasohol is all it needs.

i'll need some homework on that

[Desertbreh]

This is hot.

I have no need for a new Mazda of any stripe, but these interiors are quite superior and if I did I would be in for a test drive.

[Davestr]

Mid-Engine Corvette Plagued With Delays, Could Launch By This Summer With a Very Corvette Price -- https://jalopnik.com/mid-engine-corvett ... 1833247405

--This will be a pivotal moment for Chevrolet, as it’s the next big step in positioning the Corvette as a world beater for a fraction of the cost. While we’re relatively sure the C8 will cost quite a bit more than the current C7 generation Corvette, Hagerty’s sources appear to be quite confident that the base model price will be somewhere in the $60-70 thousand range. Considering the current base Stingray starts at $55,900, that’s not too far of a reach for most buyers.--

[troyguitar]

i might probably be in the market long as it takes regular, lighter than my yaris, this might be cake. I'm just pretty unpredictable with my next move

Regular gasohol is all it needs.

Am I correct in that you can get a red interior on the hatch and white on the sedan, but not the other way around and only on high trim levels?

[D Griff]

Mid-Engine Corvette Plagued With Delays, Could Launch By This Summer With a Very Corvette Price -- https://jalopnik.com/mid-engine-corvett ... 1833247405

--This will be a pivotal moment for Chevrolet, as it’s the next big step in positioning the Corvette as a world beater for a fraction of the cost. While we’re relatively sure the C8 will cost quite a bit more than the current C7 generation Corvette, Hagerty’s sources appear to be quite confident that the base model price will be somewhere in the $60-70 thousand range. Considering the current base Stingray starts at $55,900, that’s not too far of a reach for most buyers.--

That would be really awesome if it turns out to be the case, pretty attainable for many people and the nice thing is, they're actually robust cars that can be enjoyed for years to come. We haven't really had a "low maintenance/mass production" mid engine car here in the states since the MR2, so this is exciting news. I thought they would be > $100K.

[D Griff]

Am I correct in that you can get a red interior on the hatch and white on the sedan, but not the other way around and only on high trim levels?

You are correct.

You have a second option on the sedan in the preferred package - Greige.

It's about as exciting as it sounds, I'd imagine. Haven't seen it in person yet.

A grey or white hatch with red interior would be the ticket, IMO.

What are the exterior options? The usually Mazda pallet of meh?

[Davestr]

Mid-Engine Corvette Plagued With Delays, Could Launch By This Summer With a Very Corvette Price -- https://jalopnik.com/mid-engine-corvett ... 1833247405

--This will be a pivotal moment for Chevrolet, as it’s the next big step in positioning the Corvette as a world beater for a fraction of the cost. While we’re relatively sure the C8 will cost quite a bit more than the current C7 generation Corvette, Hagerty’s sources appear to be quite confident that the base model price will be somewhere in the $60-70 thousand range. Considering the current base Stingray starts at $55,900, that’s not too far of a reach for most buyers.--

That would be really awesome if it turns out to be the case, pretty attainable for many people and the nice thing is, they're actually robust cars that can be enjoyed for years to come. We haven't really had a "low maintenance/mass production" mid engine car here in the states since the MR2, so this is exciting news. I thought they would be > $100K.

Well said - fully agree!

[Apex]

You are correct.

You have a second option on the sedan in the preferred package - Greige.

It's about as exciting as it sounds, I'd imagine. Haven't seen it in person yet.

A grey or white hatch with red interior would be the ticket, IMO.

What are the exterior options? The usually Mazda pallet of meh?

White on red

[troyguitar]

You are correct.

You have a second option on the sedan in the preferred package - Greige.

It's about as exciting as it sounds, I'd imagine. Haven't seen it in person yet.

A grey or white hatch with red interior would be the ticket, IMO.

What are the exterior options? The usually Mazda pallet of meh?

White on red hatch vs blue or red on white sedan would be the question for me. I really want a white or very light gray/beige interior more than red buuut prefer hatches obviously.

The kia stinger IIRC has the same kind of oddity: You can get a white interior with the 4 cylinder and a red interior with the V6 but not the other way around.

I think that I'm more likely to swap my black seats to beige than to soon though - and even more likely to do nothing at all.

[ChrisoftheNorth]

Mid-Engine Corvette Plagued With Delays, Could Launch By This Summer With a Very Corvette Price -- https://jalopnik.com/mid-engine-corvett ... 1833247405

--This will be a pivotal moment for Chevrolet, as it’s the next big step in positioning the Corvette as a world beater for a fraction of the cost. While we’re relatively sure the C8 will cost quite a bit more than the current C7 generation Corvette, Hagerty’s sources appear to be quite confident that the base model price will be somewhere in the $60-70 thousand range. Considering the current base Stingray starts at $55,900, that’s not too far of a reach for most buyers.--

That would be really awesome if it turns out to be the case, pretty attainable for many people and the nice thing is, they're actually robust cars that can be enjoyed for years to come. We haven't really had a "low maintenance/mass production" mid engine car here in the states since the MR2, so this is exciting news. I thought they would be > $100K.

I've heard reports that confirm this. The Corvette is supposed to be the attainable super car, and will continue to be. It's shaping up to be rather

All this freaking out about delays and whatnot is funny. If the car's not right, it's not right. GM won't put a car into production that isn't 100%. The freak-out would be even worse if these things were manufactured and sold to customers with issues. People already go on GM's quality.

[Apex]

That would be really awesome if it turns out to be the case, pretty attainable for many people and the nice thing is, they're actually robust cars that can be enjoyed for years to come. We haven't really had a "low maintenance/mass production" mid engine car here in the states since the MR2, so this is exciting news. I thought they would be > $100K.

I've heard reports that confirm this. The Corvette is supposed to be the attainable super car, and will continue to be. It's shaping up to be rather

All this freaking out about delays and whatnot is funny. If the car's not right, it's not right. GM won't put a car into production that isn't 100%. The freak-out would be even worse if these things were manufactured and sold to customers with issues. People already go on GM's quality.

Is it getting an 8AT and minimal radiators?

[ChrisoftheNorth]

I've heard reports that confirm this. The Corvette is supposed to be the attainable super car, and will continue to be. It's shaping up to be rather

All this freaking out about delays and whatnot is funny. If the car's not right, it's not right. GM won't put a car into production that isn't 100%. The freak-out would be even worse if these things were manufactured and sold to customers with issues. People already go on GM's quality.

Is it getting an 8AT and minimal radiators?

I'm gone from the company and can say whatever and I legit have no clue about the car. It's ridiculous how secret they've kept everything. All I ever did was bitch to the brand manager about price and he swore it would stay affordable and not far off C7. Aside from that, it could have a 454 big block and power glide for all I know.