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Desertbreh wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2019 2:36 pm
CorvetteWaxer wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2019 2:35 pm

They need the exhaust to tell you they are there, because they don't have enough power to get out of the way. Kinda like Harley's and "Loud Pipes Save Lives".
:howdareu: insult the air cooled twin like that!
Hey, I have one and I have loud pipes on it.

Truth hurts. The thing is, the Harley feels faster than my Ducati because dat torque.
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CorvetteWaxer wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2019 2:43 pm
Desertbreh wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2019 2:36 pm

:howdareu: insult the air cooled twin like that!
Hey, I have one and I have loud pipes on it.

Truth hurts. The thing is, the Harley feels faster than my Ducati because dat torque.
Right. Then you roll to 11,000 rpm and all them feels are dashed.
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[user not found] wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2019 2:45 pm
Detroit wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2019 2:08 pm
Yea, this is really odd to me...I don't get it. RTV should only be used in areas where precision isn't 100% necessary. Even robots can mess up sometimes.

What's the recall for anyway? They mention valve springs, and that's it. Are valve springs breaking?
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https://www.newsweek.com/subaru-toyota- ... rt-1196654
Oh, wow. :nope:
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Detroit wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2019 2:08 pm
Huckleberry wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2019 1:36 pm

Has Subaru not heard of o-rings? How do you design something that requires a seal, but for some reason it needs to be RTV, and then make it absolutely critical that the correct amount of RTV is applied?

I guess a bunch of FRS/BRZs are going to be able to be scooped up cheaply for V8 swaps.
Yea, this is really odd to me...I don't get it. RTV should only be used in areas where precision isn't 100% necessary. Even robots can mess up sometimes.

What's the recall for anyway? They mention valve springs, and that's it. Are valve springs breaking?
Seriously. RTV should only be necessary where multiple surfaces meet and a gasket will not adequately seal. For example, where the timing cover, block, and oil pan surfaces all meet on the LS engines, a dab of RTV is required. Mind you, that is actually a dab; not the fucking bead with a 1mm tolerance that Subaru has specified for this repair.
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Huckleberry wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2019 3:14 pm
Detroit wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2019 2:08 pm
Yea, this is really odd to me...I don't get it. RTV should only be used in areas where precision isn't 100% necessary. Even robots can mess up sometimes.

What's the recall for anyway? They mention valve springs, and that's it. Are valve springs breaking?
Seriously. RTV should only be necessary where multiple surfaces meet and a gasket will not adequately seal. For example, where the timing cover, block, and oil pan surfaces all meet on the LS engines, a dab of RTV is required. Mind you, that is actually a dab; not the fucking bead with a 1mm tolerance that Subaru has specified for this repair.
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This is virtually impossible for a human to accomplish IMO. Makes zero sense.
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Detroit wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2019 3:15 pm This is virtually impossible for a human to accomplish IMO. Makes zero sense.
I think my favorite part is "Maintain uniform width."

You mean like an o-ring? That sort of uniformity?
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Huckleberry wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2019 3:40 pm
Detroit wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2019 3:15 pm This is virtually impossible for a human to accomplish IMO. Makes zero sense.
I think my favorite part is "Maintain uniform width."

You mean like an o-ring? That sort of uniformity?
:lolol: Seriously.
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[user not found] wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2019 2:45 pm
Detroit wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2019 2:08 pm
Yea, this is really odd to me...I don't get it. RTV should only be used in areas where precision isn't 100% necessary. Even robots can mess up sometimes.

What's the recall for anyway? They mention valve springs, and that's it. Are valve springs breaking?
Yarp.

https://www.newsweek.com/subaru-toyota- ... rt-1196654
Always skip the 1st model year.
IIRC this was a supplier issue, as Toyota recalled its engines as well that aren't related, but springs came from the same supplier.
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Detroit wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2019 3:15 pm
Huckleberry wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2019 3:14 pm

Seriously. RTV should only be necessary where multiple surfaces meet and a gasket will not adequately seal. For example, where the timing cover, block, and oil pan surfaces all meet on the LS engines, a dab of RTV is required. Mind you, that is actually a dab; not the fucking bead with a 1mm tolerance that Subaru has specified for this repair.
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This is virtually impossible for a human to accomplish IMO. Makes zero sense.
:dat: it's a stupid procedure for sure
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max225 wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2019 12:43 pm
[user not found] wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2019 12:30 pm http://www.thedrive.com/news/26848/scio ... ir-engines

This is sad. This will kill the FRZ deader than it is now.
Oh look another fundamentally flawed Subaru
Worst engines in the world. Unreliable af.
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Johnny_P wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2019 3:48 pm
max225 wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2019 12:43 pm

Oh look another fundamentally flawed Subaru
Worst engines in the world. Unreliable af.
It'd be perfect with a turbro.
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Apex wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2019 3:52 pm
Johnny_P wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2019 3:48 pm

Worst engines in the world. Unreliable af.
It'd be perfect with a turbro.
No replacement for displacement bro.
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Apex wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2019 3:52 pm
Johnny_P wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2019 3:48 pm

Worst engines in the world. Unreliable af.
It'd be perfect with a turbro.
Unpopular opinion. The car makes a perfectly fine amount of power and was a riot on the test drive, prius tires and all.
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CorvetteWaxer wrote: Wed Mar 06, 2019 2:04 pm
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Snap! Missed your post! Yea im thinking we had it better as younglings than the one's around right now. Dont look like much fun at all.
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Apex wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2019 3:52 pm It'd be perfect with a turbro.
Unpopular opinion. The car makes a perfectly fine amount of power and was a riot on the test drive, prius tires and all.
Equal length headers and a good tune would be my plan on one. Probably add front camber bolts and lighter :ramz: too but it doesn't need much.
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troyguitar wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2019 4:00 pm
Johnny_P wrote:
Unpopular opinion. The car makes a perfectly fine amount of power and was a riot on the test drive, prius tires and all.
Equal length headers and a good tune would be my plan on one. Probably add front camber bolts and lighter :ramz: too but it doesn't need much.
That would be fun. The headers and tune would get rid of the :doomed: torque dip that I never felt and give it some more braps. Keep it NA power.

Honestly I really liked this car. I didn't expect to, due to the negative press. It felt as quick as my MK6 GTI did which I enjoyed :iono: :wrong:
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Johnny_P wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2019 3:56 pm
Apex wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2019 3:52 pm

It'd be perfect with a turbro.
Unpopular opinion. The car makes a perfectly fine amount of power and was a riot on the test drive, prius tires and all.
I've never driven one, but I want to. Only heard fantastic things about its handling.
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Johnny_P wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2019 3:56 pm
Apex wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2019 3:52 pm

It'd be perfect with a turbro.
Unpopular opinion. The car makes a perfectly fine amount of power and was a riot on the test drive, prius tires and all.
You're unpopular.

I dunno man, I drove them at four different dealers in a year when I was looking at getting rid of the GTI. Neither the manual or the automatic felt like it had any guts and 30-50 passing was not much better than the Prius I used to have.
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troyguitar wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2019 4:00 pm Equal length headers and a good tune would be my plan on one. Probably add front camber bolts and lighter :ramz: too but it doesn't need much.
That would be fun. The headers and tune would get rid of the :doomed: torque dip that I never felt and give it some more braps. Keep it NA power.

Honestly I really liked this car. I didn't expect to, due to the negative press. It felt as quick as my MK6 GTI did which I enjoyed :iono: :wrong:
I think they're great. They just didn't depreciate quickly enough for me to end up with one over the :wankel: for double the price.
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Apex wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2019 3:52 pm

It'd be perfect with a turbro.
Thupercharger.
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[user not found] wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2019 4:53 pm
CorvetteWaxer wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2019 4:14 pm

You're unpopular.

I dunno man, I drove them at four different dealers in a year when I was looking at getting rid of the GTI. Neither the manual or the automatic felt like it had any guts and 30-50 passing was not much better than the Prius I used to have.
Yeah, but you're coming from a different echelon, bro.

You're used to cars that roast slicks on a 4th gear downshift.
I was comparing it to my GTI and old Prius......

After leaving the dealership the first time I drove both auto and stick FRS I thought my GTI was so fast I assumed I jumped into an R8.
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The main rub with the Toyotaburu is that you can pick up an Ecoboost Mustang or 370Z for the same price.
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Epic engine, so it isn't reliable or repairable? :disappoint:
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Huckleberry wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2019 5:57 pm The main rub with the Toyotaburu is that you can pick up an Ecoboost Mustang or 370Z for the same price.
I'd be down for a 370z if I were in that market and price range.
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Tarspin wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2019 6:01 pm Epic engine, so it isn't reliable or repairable? :disappoint:
:wrong: this is :fakenews: apparently stating facts offends people.
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