Why drive That on the street ? With no roof and doors? Might as well wrangler since it can also go off road
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That's the thing. A 2-door Wrangler with zero options could be had for mid to high 20's and be just as good if not better than a SxS off-road, be way better on-road, all for nearly the same price.
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BUT DOES IT GET THE SAME SCENE POINTS? I mean one can argue that a Wrangler looks "worse" but throw some tube doors on, a small liftkit and whatever the aftermarket has to offer, which is bigger than the entire company x1000 and you have an epic looking rig too, if you crave attention that much.
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Good point.max225 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2019 1:41 pmBUT DOES IT GET THE SAME SCENE POINTS? I mean one can argue that a Wrangler looks "worse" but throw some tube doors on, a small liftkit and whatever the aftermarket has to offer, which is bigger than the entire company x1000 and you have an epic looking rig too, if you crave attention that much.
I've thought a lot about a zero option JL 2-door with nothing more than Rubicon fenders to clear Rubicon take-off wheels and 33's. Would do anything you wanted off-road and be a fun thing to cruise around in on the road during the summer. Like you said, tube doors, remove the top entirely, fold the windshield down if you REALLY want that air in your face experience. Kind of the perfect "side by side".
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I have been preaching about the 0 option 2 Door JL for sub 30 for a bit. We have em for 25-27k on the regular. I just can't justify a Toy like that... but it is a pretty cool value. When a 20 year old TJ is 15k with 50k miles and decades of chewing tobacco and hooker juice engrained in the seats.Detroit wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2019 1:45 pmGood point.max225 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2019 1:41 pm
BUT DOES IT GET THE SAME SCENE POINTS? I mean one can argue that a Wrangler looks "worse" but throw some tube doors on, a small liftkit and whatever the aftermarket has to offer, which is bigger than the entire company x1000 and you have an epic looking rig too, if you crave attention that much.
I've thought a lot about a zero option JL 2-door with nothing more than Rubicon fenders to clear Rubicon take-off wheels and 33's. Would do anything you wanted off-road and be a fun thing to cruise around in on the road during the summer. Like you said, tube doors, remove the top entirely, fold the windshield down if you REALLY want that air in your face experience. Kind of the perfect "side by side".
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Well, people are spending $20+ on SxS's that can't even be driven on the street in most instances...that's even more of a toy than a JL stripper. If buying a toy, at least a JL could be driven to work on occasion if you wanted. It would make an easy to live with fun vehicle, WAY more usable than a SxS.max225 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2019 1:47 pmI have been preaching about the 0 option 2 Door JL for sub 30 for a bit. We have em for 25-27k on the regular. I just can't justify a Toy like that... but it is a pretty cool value. When a 20 year old TJ is 15k with 50k miles and decades of chewing tobacco and hooker juice engrained in the seats.Detroit wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2019 1:45 pm
Good point.
I've thought a lot about a zero option JL 2-door with nothing more than Rubicon fenders to clear Rubicon take-off wheels and 33's. Would do anything you wanted off-road and be a fun thing to cruise around in on the road during the summer. Like you said, tube doors, remove the top entirely, fold the windshield down if you REALLY want that air in your face experience. Kind of the perfect "side by side".
I don't understand spending $15k on a TJ when for $10k more you could just get a brand new JL that's better than it in every imaginable way.
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Especially when your payment stays the same!Detroit wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2019 2:00 pmWell, people are spending $20+ on SxS's that can't even be driven on the street in most instances...that's even more of a toy than a JL stripper. If buying a toy, at least a JL could be driven to work on occasion if you wanted. It would make an easy to live with fun vehicle, WAY more usable than a SxS.max225 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2019 1:47 pm
I have been preaching about the 0 option 2 Door JL for sub 30 for a bit. We have em for 25-27k on the regular. I just can't justify a Toy like that... but it is a pretty cool value. When a 20 year old TJ is 15k with 50k miles and decades of chewing tobacco and hooker juice engrained in the seats.
I don't understand spending $15k on a TJ when for $10k more you could just get a brand new JL that's better than it in every imaginable way.
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Classic styling Last REAL jeep the aircooled of the Jeep lineup.Detroit wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2019 2:00 pmWell, people are spending $20+ on SxS's that can't even be driven on the street in most instances...that's even more of a toy than a JL stripper. If buying a toy, at least a JL could be driven to work on occasion if you wanted. It would make an easy to live with fun vehicle, WAY more usable than a SxS.max225 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2019 1:47 pm
I have been preaching about the 0 option 2 Door JL for sub 30 for a bit. We have em for 25-27k on the regular. I just can't justify a Toy like that... but it is a pretty cool value. When a 20 year old TJ is 15k with 50k miles and decades of chewing tobacco and hooker juice engrained in the seats.
I don't understand spending $15k on a TJ when for $10k more you could just get a brand new JL that's better than it in every imaginable way.
I don't care about the argument that I "can't afford" 25k vs 15, the 15k jeep is a god damn toy (that costs 2k to keep on the road annually). If you can afford that you can afford something else.
But people do really dumb shit... "I GOT A NEW JOB" now "LETS SEE WHAT I CAN AFFORD"
A few visits later
Trailer on stretch pay for $400
Boat on stretch pay for $300
Jeep on stretch pay for $500
ATVs on stretch pay for $99
I gotta HAVE MY TOYS MAN! I EARNED IT.
Look no further than he lived that life..
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Brb, shopping stripper JLs.Detroit wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2019 2:00 pmWell, people are spending $20+ on SxS's that can't even be driven on the street in most instances...that's even more of a toy than a JL stripper. If buying a toy, at least a JL could be driven to work on occasion if you wanted. It would make an easy to live with fun vehicle, WAY more usable than a SxS.max225 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2019 1:47 pm
I have been preaching about the 0 option 2 Door JL for sub 30 for a bit. We have em for 25-27k on the regular. I just can't justify a Toy like that... but it is a pretty cool value. When a 20 year old TJ is 15k with 50k miles and decades of chewing tobacco and hooker juice engrained in the seats.
I don't understand spending $15k on a TJ when for $10k more you could just get a brand new JL that's better than it in every imaginable way.
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I see this all the time.max225 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2019 2:06 pmClassic styling Last REAL jeep the aircooled of the Jeep lineup.Detroit wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2019 2:00 pm
Well, people are spending $20+ on SxS's that can't even be driven on the street in most instances...that's even more of a toy than a JL stripper. If buying a toy, at least a JL could be driven to work on occasion if you wanted. It would make an easy to live with fun vehicle, WAY more usable than a SxS.
I don't understand spending $15k on a TJ when for $10k more you could just get a brand new JL that's better than it in every imaginable way.
I don't care about the argument that I "can't afford" 25k vs 15, the 15k jeep is a god damn toy (that costs 2k to keep on the road annually). If you can afford that you can afford something else.
But people do really dumb shit... "I GOT A NEW JOB" now "LETS SEE WHAT I CAN AFFORD"
A few visits later
Trailer on stretch pay for $400
Boat on stretch pay for $300
Jeep on stretch pay for $500
ATVs on stretch pay for $99
I gotta HAVE MY TOYS MAN! I EARNED IT.
Look no further than he lived that life..
I always wonder how I feel so "poor" with the things I have compared to others. I don't live the stretchpay lyfe.
Doing it wrong I guess.
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max225 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2019 2:06 pmClassic styling Last REAL jeep the aircooled of the Jeep lineup.Detroit wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2019 2:00 pm
Well, people are spending $20+ on SxS's that can't even be driven on the street in most instances...that's even more of a toy than a JL stripper. If buying a toy, at least a JL could be driven to work on occasion if you wanted. It would make an easy to live with fun vehicle, WAY more usable than a SxS.
I don't understand spending $15k on a TJ when for $10k more you could just get a brand new JL that's better than it in every imaginable way.
I don't care about the argument that I "can't afford" 25k vs 15, the 15k jeep is a god damn toy (that costs 2k to keep on the road annually). If you can afford that you can afford something else.
But people do really dumb shit... "I GOT A NEW JOB" now "LETS SEE WHAT I CAN AFFORD"
A few visits later
Trailer on stretch pay for $400
Boat on stretch pay for $300
Jeep on stretch pay for $500
ATVs on stretch pay for $99
I gotta HAVE MY TOYS MAN! I EARNED IT.
Look no further than he lived that life..
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I mean, if you're going to consider blowing $15k on a TJ that you'll then need to dump thousands into getting it "right" might as well just start with a better foundation that's way more capable out of the box.Apex wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2019 2:10 pmBrb, shopping stripper JLs.Detroit wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2019 2:00 pm
Well, people are spending $20+ on SxS's that can't even be driven on the street in most instances...that's even more of a toy than a JL stripper. If buying a toy, at least a JL could be driven to work on occasion if you wanted. It would make an easy to live with fun vehicle, WAY more usable than a SxS.
I don't understand spending $15k on a TJ when for $10k more you could just get a brand new JL that's better than it in every imaginable way.
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Better F/E,
Better performance
Better off road ability
Better looks
No C stains
Better brakes
And an actual transmission, the TJs are pretty terrible to drive.
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I dunno mang... you got 100k of FCA's finest in your driveway + a glamper... I'd consider that "poor" by any means.Detroit wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2019 2:12 pmI see this all the time.max225 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2019 2:06 pm
Classic styling Last REAL jeep the aircooled of the Jeep lineup.
I don't care about the argument that I "can't afford" 25k vs 15, the 15k jeep is a god damn toy (that costs 2k to keep on the road annually). If you can afford that you can afford something else.
But people do really dumb shit... "I GOT A NEW JOB" now "LETS SEE WHAT I CAN AFFORD"
A few visits later
Trailer on stretch pay for $400
Boat on stretch pay for $300
Jeep on stretch pay for $500
ATVs on stretch pay for $99
I gotta HAVE MY TOYS MAN! I EARNED IT.
Look no further than he lived that life..
I always wonder how I feel so "poor" with the things I have compared to others. I don't live the stretchpay lyfe.
Doing it wrong I guess.
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Bikini, Punk'n, Sting Gray
I'd take any of those over a TJ color.
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Dude, I work with people (at my level) that have new hellcats, $100k hemi swapped JKs, vacation houses, boats, 3500 Rams with HUGE 5th wheel campers, etc, etc. All about that #stretchpaylyfe
I just have a Gladiator (corp lease, so $6 out of my pocket), Wrangler (that was pricey @ $42k), and a 13 year old camper I bought for $3k. No vacation house. Sold my "fancy" car with no plans of replacing it. Live in a decent house in a great area, that's it. Not complaining at all, just interesting how different people manage their finances and puts into perspective how "rich" people actually are. Just because you have a bunch of high priced shit, that doesn't make you rich.
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I am not giving you shit for spending to much, I am saying you have nice stuff . Live a nice house, have nice vehicles.Detroit wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2019 2:27 pmDude, I work with people (at my level) that have new hellcats, $100k hemi swapped JKs, vacation houses, boats, 3500 Rams with HUGE 5th wheel campers, etc, etc. All about that #stretchpaylyfe
I just have a Gladiator (corp lease, so $6 out of my pocket), Wrangler (that was pricey @ $42k), and a 13 year old camper I bought for $3k. No vacation house. Sold my "fancy" car with no plans of replacing it. Live in a decent house in a great area, that's it. Not complaining at all, just interesting how different people manage their finances and puts into perspective how "rich" people actually are. Just because you have a bunch of high priced shit, that doesn't make you rich.
The other people could have additional streams of income, you never know... some people inherit a lot... others did really well in the market. The amount of wealth that was recently created is immense.
Detroit house prices alone probably created hundreds of millionaires, you just had to buy a few here and there... the appreciation you guys are seeing now is essentially what we had a few years back.
Detroit wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2019 2:27 pmDude, I work with people (at my level) that have new hellcats, $100k hemi swapped JKs, vacation houses, boats, 3500 Rams with HUGE 5th wheel campers, etc, etc. All about that #stretchpaylyfe
I just have a Gladiator (corp lease, so $6 out of my pocket), Wrangler (that was pricey @ $42k), and a 13 year old camper I bought for $3k. No vacation house. Sold my "fancy" car with no plans of replacing it. Live in a decent house in a great area, that's it. Not complaining at all, just interesting how different people manage their finances and puts into perspective how "rich" people actually are. Just because you have a bunch of high priced shit, that doesn't make you rich.
not spend MOAR
re: millionaires breh.max225 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2019 2:32 pmI am not giving you shit for spending to much, I am saying you have nice stuff . Live a nice house, have nice vehicles.Detroit wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2019 2:27 pm
Dude, I work with people (at my level) that have new hellcats, $100k hemi swapped JKs, vacation houses, boats, 3500 Rams with HUGE 5th wheel campers, etc, etc. All about that #stretchpaylyfe
I just have a Gladiator (corp lease, so $6 out of my pocket), Wrangler (that was pricey @ $42k), and a 13 year old camper I bought for $3k. No vacation house. Sold my "fancy" car with no plans of replacing it. Live in a decent house in a great area, that's it. Not complaining at all, just interesting how different people manage their finances and puts into perspective how "rich" people actually are. Just because you have a bunch of high priced shit, that doesn't make you rich.
The other people could have additional streams of income, you never know... some people inherit a lot... others did really well in the market. The amount of wealth that was recently created is immense.
Detroit house prices alone probably created hundreds of millionaires, you just had to buy a few here and there... the appreciation you guys are seeing now is essentially what we had a few years back.
I shared that article. its
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dubshow wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2019 2:34 pmre: millionaires breh.max225 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2019 2:32 pm
I am not giving you shit for spending to much, I am saying you have nice stuff . Live a nice house, have nice vehicles.
The other people could have additional streams of income, you never know... some people inherit a lot... others did really well in the market. The amount of wealth that was recently created is immense.
Detroit house prices alone probably created hundreds of millionaires, you just had to buy a few here and there... the appreciation you guys are seeing now is essentially what we had a few years back.
I shared that article. its
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