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MrH42 wrote: Wed Apr 01, 2020 3:54 pm Yeah, I'm down with that.

I'd also take an Ariel Atom, Morgan 3-wheeler, or something similar. I just wish these kinds of toys were cheaper.
Give it three or four weeks :lolol:
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Johnny_P wrote: Thu Apr 02, 2020 1:34 pm RDX doe but yeah I think they look good, size is right, engine is good, nice AWD systems, decent on fuel, etc. Overall a nice package.
The infotainment in the new RDX appears to be a total clusterfuck, though. Otherwise they're very cool.
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coogles wrote: Thu Apr 02, 2020 2:59 pm
Johnny_P wrote: Thu Apr 02, 2020 1:34 pm RDX doe but yeah I think they look good, size is right, engine is good, nice AWD systems, decent on fuel, etc. Overall a nice package.
The infotainment in the new RDX appears to be a total clusterfuck, though. Otherwise they're very cool.
It would warrant a good 30 minutes of fucking with at the dealership to determine if I could live with it.
5 minutes with a Lexus and I knew the fucking mouse thing was a no go, lol.
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Detroit wrote: Thu Apr 02, 2020 2:28 pm
Johnny_P wrote: Thu Apr 02, 2020 1:24 pm

I mean it's competitively priced against other G8s. I agree the "value" isn't there, but we're talking a purchase price that is less than the amount of depreciation an M3 will see in 2 years.

I think the transmission is the 6L80 which was the same used in the Corvette of similar vintage. So it would seem everything is under-stressed. Overbuilt. Should be pretty durable. I think the thing even runs on 87 octane.
It'll run to the Moon and back with minimal issues on 87 zfg.

I do agree that they're surprisingly resistant to depreciation. The value is tough.
I mean this should be $10k. But for reasons it's 17. If enough boomers are left after the plague comes through maybe the resale on these will stay propped up. But I bet many cars like this will see serious drops in resale value as boomers decide they need to protect their investments instead of purchase frivolous toys that cost too much for what they are. Harley has got to be freaking out right now.

I bet my car took a royal shit on resale value over the last month.
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Detroit wrote: Thu Apr 02, 2020 2:27 pm RDX is legit :notbad: these days
I don't know why all these little CUVs have to come with such disgusting lame motors nowadays. We need more that are in this power range. 10 gears + 270 HP + AWD sounds pretty good to me.
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Johnny_P wrote: Thu Apr 02, 2020 3:21 pm I mean this should be $10k. But for reasons it's 17. If enough boomers are left after the plague comes through maybe the resale on these will stay propped up. But I bet many cars like this will see serious drops in resale value as boomers decide they need to protect their investments instead of purchase frivolous toys that cost too much for what they are. Harley has got to be freaking out right now.

I bet my car took a royal shit on resale value over the last month.
Seems to be just supply and demand to me. What other RWD V8 sedans are out there? The Charger, and...that's it. The G8s sold for 2 years when gas prices were insane, so few were sold, then they disappeared. I'd still kick around the idea of buying one if I find a clean one somewhere in a decent radius from here.
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coogles wrote: Thu Apr 02, 2020 3:32 pm
Johnny_P wrote: Thu Apr 02, 2020 3:21 pm I mean this should be $10k. But for reasons it's 17. If enough boomers are left after the plague comes through maybe the resale on these will stay propped up. But I bet many cars like this will see serious drops in resale value as boomers decide they need to protect their investments instead of purchase frivolous toys that cost too much for what they are. Harley has got to be freaking out right now.

I bet my car took a royal shit on resale value over the last month.
Seems to be just supply and demand to me. What other RWD V8 sedans are out there? The Charger, and...that's it. The G8s sold for 2 years when gas prices were insane, so few were sold, then they disappeared. I'd still kick around the idea of buying one if I find a clean one somewhere in a decent radius from here.
Speaking of...

https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/deta ... /overview/
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coogles wrote: Thu Apr 02, 2020 3:32 pm
Johnny_P wrote: Thu Apr 02, 2020 3:21 pm I mean this should be $10k. But for reasons it's 17. If enough boomers are left after the plague comes through maybe the resale on these will stay propped up. But I bet many cars like this will see serious drops in resale value as boomers decide they need to protect their investments instead of purchase frivolous toys that cost too much for what they are. Harley has got to be freaking out right now.

I bet my car took a royal shit on resale value over the last month.
Seems to be just supply and demand to me. What other RWD V8 sedans are out there? The Charger, and...that's it. The G8s sold for 2 years when gas prices were insane, so few were sold, then they disappeared. I'd still kick around the idea of buying one if I find a clean one somewhere in a decent radius from here.
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max225 wrote: Thu Apr 02, 2020 4:18 pm
coogles wrote: Thu Apr 02, 2020 3:32 pm

Seems to be just supply and demand to me. What other RWD V8 sedans are out there? The Charger, and...that's it. The G8s sold for 2 years when gas prices were insane, so few were sold, then they disappeared. I'd still kick around the idea of buying one if I find a clean one somewhere in a decent radius from here.
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IS-F would be legit.

I don't even think boomers are propping G8 values, I think it's... people like us.
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It's got space for a family, reliable, sounds good, looks good, fast, RWD... what else does all that for $17K?
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D Griff wrote:IS-F would be legit.

I don't even think boomers are propping G8 values, I think it's... people like us.
G8 is yuuge compared to the IS. The LS430/460 are probably more comparable to the G8 GT. It's a big car.
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D Griff wrote: Thu Apr 02, 2020 5:21 pm It's got space for a family, reliable, sounds good, looks good, fast, RWD... what else does all that for $17K?
Fast is relative tho. A GTI would keep pace with it.
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“17k” about to change
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Johnny_P wrote: Thu Apr 02, 2020 7:55 pm
D Griff wrote: Thu Apr 02, 2020 5:21 pm It's got space for a family, reliable, sounds good, looks good, fast, RWD... what else does all that for $17K?
Fast is relative tho. A GTI would keep pace with it.
Much faster than a :turboyaris:

From CD 11 years ago:
https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/a1 ... nted-test/
Specifications
PRICE AS TESTED: $41,500 (base price: $39,995)

ENGINE TYPE: pushrod 16-valve V-8, aluminum block and heads, port fuel injection

Displacement: 376 cu in, 6162 cc
Power: 415 hp @ 5900 rpm
Torque: 415 lb-ft @ 4600 rpm

TRANSMISSION: 6-speed manual

DIMENSIONS:
Wheelbase: 114.8 in
Length: 196.1 in
Width: 74.8 in Height: 57.7 in
Curb weight: 3980 lb

C/D TEST RESULTS:
Zero to 60 mph: 4.7 sec
Zero to 100 mph: 11.4 sec
Zero to 140 mph: 25.2 sec
Rolling start, 5-60 mph: 5.2 sec
Standing ¼-mile: 13.3 sec @ 109 mph
Top speed (governor limited): 146 mph
Braking, 70-0 mph: 156 ft
Roadholding, 200-ft-dia skidpad: 0.85 g

FUEL ECONOMY:
EPA city/highway driving: 13/20 mpg
C/D observed: 14 mpg

Edit: Aw shit, this is for the GXP. NVM
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wap wrote: Thu Apr 02, 2020 9:41 pm
Johnny_P wrote: Thu Apr 02, 2020 7:55 pm

Fast is relative tho. A GTI would keep pace with it.
Much faster than a :turboyaris:

From CD 11 years ago:
https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/a1 ... nted-test/
Specifications
PRICE AS TESTED: $41,500 (base price: $39,995)

ENGINE TYPE: pushrod 16-valve V-8, aluminum block and heads, port fuel injection

Displacement: 376 cu in, 6162 cc
Power: 415 hp @ 5900 rpm
Torque: 415 lb-ft @ 4600 rpm

TRANSMISSION: 6-speed manual

DIMENSIONS:
Wheelbase: 114.8 in
Length: 196.1 in
Width: 74.8 in Height: 57.7 in
Curb weight: 3980 lb

C/D TEST RESULTS:
Zero to 60 mph: 4.7 sec
Zero to 100 mph: 11.4 sec
Zero to 140 mph: 25.2 sec
Rolling start, 5-60 mph: 5.2 sec
Standing ¼-mile: 13.3 sec @ 109 mph
Top speed (governor limited): 146 mph
Braking, 70-0 mph: 156 ft
Roadholding, 200-ft-dia skidpad: 0.85 g

FUEL ECONOMY:
EPA city/highway driving: 13/20 mpg
C/D observed: 14 mpg

Edit: Aw shit, this is for the GXP. NVM
Wrong car. GT not GXP.
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max225 wrote: Thu Apr 02, 2020 8:14 pm “17k” about to change
Yeah I should watch these.
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Johnny_P wrote: Thu Apr 02, 2020 9:51 pm
wap wrote: Thu Apr 02, 2020 9:41 pm
Much faster than a :turboyaris:

From CD 11 years ago:
https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/a1 ... nted-test/
Specifications
PRICE AS TESTED: $41,500 (base price: $39,995)

ENGINE TYPE: pushrod 16-valve V-8, aluminum block and heads, port fuel injection

Displacement: 376 cu in, 6162 cc
Power: 415 hp @ 5900 rpm
Torque: 415 lb-ft @ 4600 rpm

TRANSMISSION: 6-speed manual

DIMENSIONS:
Wheelbase: 114.8 in
Length: 196.1 in
Width: 74.8 in Height: 57.7 in
Curb weight: 3980 lb

C/D TEST RESULTS:
Zero to 60 mph: 4.7 sec
Zero to 100 mph: 11.4 sec
Zero to 140 mph: 25.2 sec
Rolling start, 5-60 mph: 5.2 sec
Standing ¼-mile: 13.3 sec @ 109 mph
Top speed (governor limited): 146 mph
Braking, 70-0 mph: 156 ft
Roadholding, 200-ft-dia skidpad: 0.85 g

FUEL ECONOMY:
EPA city/highway driving: 13/20 mpg
C/D observed: 14 mpg

Edit: Aw shit, this is for the GXP. NVM
Wrong car. GT not GXP.
Yea, I realized that after I posted, as mentioned. ;)
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Same speed as a 335i that is just about a 1/2 a decade newer, more fuel efficient and 400lbs lighter. I still don’t get the appeal of these
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max225 wrote: Thu Apr 02, 2020 10:02 pm Same speed as a 335i that is just about a 1/2 a decade newer, more fuel efficient and 400lbs lighter. I still don’t get the appeal of these
Mostly just V8 noises and a car that will almost certainly be simpler to own. Think of it like a pickup truck in sedan form haha.

There’s a lot that sucks on the G8 though like that steering wheel, the Big Mac sized seats, and the awful radio interface that can’t be changed.
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max225 wrote:Same speed as a 335i that is just about a 1/2 a decade newer, more fuel efficient and 400lbs lighter. I still don’t get the appeal of these
It's the size of a 7 series.
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troyguitar wrote: Thu Apr 02, 2020 10:20 pm
max225 wrote:Same speed as a 335i that is just about a 1/2 a decade newer, more fuel efficient and 400lbs lighter. I still don’t get the appeal of these
It's the size of a 7 series.
Yep, does it have a good use of space inside ?
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max225 wrote: Thu Apr 02, 2020 10:26 pm
troyguitar wrote: Thu Apr 02, 2020 10:20 pm It's the size of a 7 series.
Yep, does it have a good use of space inside ?
They're proper full size inside
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max225 wrote:
troyguitar wrote: Thu Apr 02, 2020 10:20 pm It's the size of a 7 series.
Yep, does it have a good use of space inside ?
Pretty good, yeah. It's a big car inside and out.
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max225 wrote: Thu Apr 02, 2020 10:02 pm Same speed as a 335i that is just about a 1/2 a decade newer, more fuel efficient and 400lbs lighter. I still don’t get the appeal of these
335 will continue to depreciate to nothing, these clearly don't. Also, they are likely more reliable.

All of that said, I have no interest in one, CTS-Vs are similar money to GTP and seem like a more interesting vehicle.
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