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MrH42 wrote: Mon Jan 20, 2020 4:27 pm I had to edit it to add more $$$ :cry:
Meh that's about what I has into a car that I sold for $450. :rage:

Dplac lost more on his :poorvette: too
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Since I've been going through the usual suspects of S3, S4, and 340i's, I suddenly remembered the MB C43. I remember my dad checked out a C300 a few years back and I was pretty impressed. I didn't drive it but I thought it was definitely nicer inside than the equivalent 3 series.

I don't know much about these C43's though. Anyone have experience? They seem intriguing.

https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sal ... pe=listing

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Gberg2119 wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2020 6:54 pm Since I've been going through the usual suspects of S3, S4, and 340i's, I suddenly remembered the MB C43. I remember my dad checked out a C300 a few years back and I was pretty impressed. I didn't drive it but I thought it was definitely nicer inside than the equivalent 3 series.

I don't know much about these C43's though. Anyone have experience? They seem intriguing.

https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sal ... pe=listing

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That's really all I know. Haven't seen any posts about major problems from owners either though.
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Gberg2119 wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2020 6:54 pm Since I've been going through the usual suspects of S3, S4, and 340i's, I suddenly remembered the MB C43. I remember my dad checked out a C300 a few years back and I was pretty impressed. I didn't drive it but I thought it was definitely nicer inside than the equivalent 3 series.

I don't know much about these C43's though. Anyone have experience? They seem intriguing.

https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sal ... pe=listing

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https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sal ... pe=listing
I browse these from time to time. They’re certainly enticing for a performance sedan, and look :tits:
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Gberg2119 wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2020 6:54 pm Since I've been going through the usual suspects of S3, S4, and 340i's, I suddenly remembered the MB C43. I remember my dad checked out a C300 a few years back and I was pretty impressed. I didn't drive it but I thought it was definitely nicer inside than the equivalent 3 series.

I don't know much about these C43's though. Anyone have experience? They seem intriguing.

https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sal ... pe=listing

https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sal ... pe=listing

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Oh wow these came down 15k since I was last looking.

They are better inside than the 3xx fake sports. But in the fake amg trim they tend to be quite heavy, the chassis is also quite noodely and they are neutered by :225: tires in a near 4000# vehicle so expect terminal under steer. Other than that they are great cars
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4zilch wrote: Wed Jan 22, 2020 6:13 am
Gberg2119 wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2020 6:54 pm Since I've been going through the usual suspects of S3, S4, and 340i's, I suddenly remembered the MB C43. I remember my dad checked out a C300 a few years back and I was pretty impressed. I didn't drive it but I thought it was definitely nicer inside than the equivalent 3 series.

I don't know much about these C43's though. Anyone have experience? They seem intriguing.

https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sal ... pe=listing

https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sal ... pe=listing

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I browse these from time to time. They’re certainly enticing for a performance sedan, and look :tits:
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im just curious about longevity. The noises of the old v8 where always :jimp:

but them headgasket/bolt failures :sad:
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4zilch wrote: Wed Jan 22, 2020 6:13 am
Gberg2119 wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2020 6:54 pm Since I've been going through the usual suspects of S3, S4, and 340i's, I suddenly remembered the MB C43. I remember my dad checked out a C300 a few years back and I was pretty impressed. I didn't drive it but I thought it was definitely nicer inside than the equivalent 3 series.

I don't know much about these C43's though. Anyone have experience? They seem intriguing.

https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sal ... pe=listing

https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sal ... pe=listing

https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sal ... pe=listing
I browse these from time to time. They’re certainly enticing for a performance sedan, and look :tits:
I really like the way new MB's look. And C&D has it putting up some :impressive: numbers.

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Gberg2119 wrote: Wed Jan 22, 2020 12:17 pm
4zilch wrote: Wed Jan 22, 2020 6:13 am

I browse these from time to time. They’re certainly enticing for a performance sedan, and look :tits:
I really like the way new MB's look. And C&D has it putting up some :impressive: numbers.

https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/a1 ... st-review/
Good looking car. I would endorse it over the 440iGC I own.
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max225 wrote: Wed Jan 22, 2020 10:29 am
Gberg2119 wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2020 6:54 pm Since I've been going through the usual suspects of S3, S4, and 340i's, I suddenly remembered the MB C43. I remember my dad checked out a C300 a few years back and I was pretty impressed. I didn't drive it but I thought it was definitely nicer inside than the equivalent 3 series.

I don't know much about these C43's though. Anyone have experience? They seem intriguing.

https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sal ... pe=listing

https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sal ... pe=listing

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Oh wow these came down 15k since I was last looking.

They are better inside than the 3xx fake sports. But in the fake amg trim they tend to be quite heavy, the chassis is also quite noodely and they are neutered by :225: tires in a near 4000# vehicle so expect terminal under steer. Other than that they are great cars
I wonder if you could fit a set of rear wheels up front and go 245 all around.

How does the 4matic compare to xdrive and quattro?
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I've read nothing about terminal understeer in these cars but rather that they are actually quite good to drive. If Max has driven one however I guess that would hold more weight
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CaleDeRoo wrote: Wed Jan 22, 2020 1:58 pm I've read nothing about terminal understeer in these cars but rather that they are actually quite good to drive. If Max has driven one however I guess that would hold more weight
You can't really put :225: tires up front and not expect understeer. I have driven several C300s, and sport C300 and a C450 (the same thing as a C43. The C300 which ride on the exact suspensions as the C43. they are frankly the same car as they feature the "amg" brakes. The difference is the motor, which is a peach in the C43, but I preferred the RWD cars as they come in at around 3300/3400lbs vs the heavy 4000lb AWD AMG car with even more weight in the nose.
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Gberg2119 wrote: Wed Jan 22, 2020 1:24 pm
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Oh wow these came down 15k since I was last looking.

They are better inside than the 3xx fake sports. But in the fake amg trim they tend to be quite heavy, the chassis is also quite noodely and they are neutered by :225: tires in a near 4000# vehicle so expect terminal under steer. Other than that they are great cars
I wonder if you could fit a set of rear wheels up front and go 245 all around.

How does the 4matic compare to xdrive and quattro?
I am not sure here, as we don't get foul weather enough to test it and there isn't THAT much power that you "need it". It seemed very unobtrusive, but man if you don't like "dead" steering you're in for a treat on the C class, it has the deadest steering in it's class.

These are great highway cruiser and on ramp blasters but I wouldn't expect it to handle as well as the others.
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What was the V8 C-class AMG, the C63? Those things are ridiculous and I want one. Those head studs/bolts sound like a bad issue doe.
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Apex wrote: Wed Jan 22, 2020 2:14 pm What was the V8 C-class AMG, the C63? Those things are ridiculous and I want one. Those head studs/bolts sound like a bad issue doe.
There are several V8 powered C classes.
The last gen was the C63 amg (w204), i was extensively shopping them because I really liked the size/power combo and the fact that they were around 30k.
07-11 engines are basically fucked (if you like to drive them a lot), there are many issues, camwear, headbolts, oil usage etc. 12+ models are rare and far more expensive. There are several "kits" that cost about 3k to install that take care of the head bolt "problem". Honestly it isn't THAT big of a deal... but it also is. Similar to the BMW bearing fiasco.
One thing is for certain, german car manufacturers can't build a RELIABLE hi/po engine for shit. I have yet to see an example of one that lasts over 6 figure miles with no major "DOOMSDAY" defect.

The current gen AMG cars feature a "hot V" design which frankly seems like a reliability nightmare to have two hot ass turbos in the head of the engine compartment... They are epic beasts but I'd just keep them within "warranty/lease" turns or just roll the dice in :aintcare: fashion.
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max225 wrote: Wed Jan 22, 2020 2:23 pm
Apex wrote: Wed Jan 22, 2020 2:14 pm What was the V8 C-class AMG, the C63? Those things are ridiculous and I want one. Those head studs/bolts sound like a bad issue doe.
There are several V8 powered C classes.
The last gen was the C63 amg (w204), i was extensively shopping them because I really liked the size/power combo and the fact that they were around 30k.
07-11 engines are basically fucked (if you like to drive them a lot), there are many issues, camwear, headbolts, oil usage etc. 12+ models are rare and far more expensive. There are several "kits" that cost about 3k to install that take care of the head bolt "problem". Honestly it isn't THAT big of a deal... but it also is. Similar to the BMW bearing fiasco.
One thing is for certain, german car manufacturers can't build a RELIABLE hi/po engine for shit. I have yet to see an example of one that lasts over 6 figure miles with no major "DOOMSDAY" defect.

The current gen AMG cars feature a "hot V" design which frankly seems like a reliability nightmare to have two hot ass turbos in the head of the engine compartment... They are epic beasts but I'd just keep them within "warranty/lease" turns or just roll the dice in :aintcare: fashion.
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Apex wrote: Wed Jan 22, 2020 2:29 pm
max225 wrote: Wed Jan 22, 2020 2:23 pm

There are several V8 powered C classes.
The last gen was the C63 amg (w204), i was extensively shopping them because I really liked the size/power combo and the fact that they were around 30k.
07-11 engines are basically fucked (if you like to drive them a lot), there are many issues, camwear, headbolts, oil usage etc. 12+ models are rare and far more expensive. There are several "kits" that cost about 3k to install that take care of the head bolt "problem". Honestly it isn't THAT big of a deal... but it also is. Similar to the BMW bearing fiasco.
One thing is for certain, german car manufacturers can't build a RELIABLE hi/po engine for shit. I have yet to see an example of one that lasts over 6 figure miles with no major "DOOMSDAY" defect.

The current gen AMG cars feature a "hot V" design which frankly seems like a reliability nightmare to have two hot ass turbos in the head of the engine compartment... They are epic beasts but I'd just keep them within "warranty/lease" turns or just roll the dice in :aintcare: fashion.
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CaleDeRoo wrote: Wed Jan 22, 2020 1:58 pm I've read nothing about terminal understeer in these cars but rather that they are actually quite good to drive. If Max has driven one however I guess that would hold more weight
You can't really put :225: tires up front and not expect understeer. I have driven several C300s, and sport C300 and a C450 (the same thing as a C43. The C300 which ride on the exact suspensions as the C43. they are frankly the same car as they feature the "amg" brakes. The difference is the motor, which is a peach in the C43, but I preferred the RWD cars as they come in at around 3300/3400lbs vs the heavy 4000lb AWD AMG car with even more weight in the nose.
The S4 and 340i xdrive are both closing in on 4,000lbs too. At least the S4 has 245's all around.
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max225 wrote: Wed Jan 22, 2020 2:04 pm
CaleDeRoo wrote: Wed Jan 22, 2020 1:58 pm I've read nothing about terminal understeer in these cars but rather that they are actually quite good to drive. If Max has driven one however I guess that would hold more weight
You can't really put :225: tires up front and not expect understeer. I have driven several C300s, and sport C300 and a C450 (the same thing as a C43. The C300 which ride on the exact suspensions as the C43. they are frankly the same car as they feature the "amg" brakes. The difference is the motor, which is a peach in the C43, but I preferred the RWD cars as they come in at around 3300/3400lbs vs the heavy 4000lb AWD AMG car with even more weight in the nose.
Just came in to "well actually" you :pftch:

They're on different suspensions. The differences are minor though (slight spring and valving changes for every model). RWD ones have way more travel up front obviously, but they valved each and every variant differently to some degree.
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Gberg2119 wrote: Wed Jan 22, 2020 3:04 pm
max225 wrote: Wed Jan 22, 2020 2:04 pm

You can't really put :225: tires up front and not expect understeer. I have driven several C300s, and sport C300 and a C450 (the same thing as a C43. The C300 which ride on the exact suspensions as the C43. they are frankly the same car as they feature the "amg" brakes. The difference is the motor, which is a peach in the C43, but I preferred the RWD cars as they come in at around 3300/3400lbs vs the heavy 4000lb AWD AMG car with even more weight in the nose.
The S4 and 340i xdrive are both closing in on 4,000lbs too. At least the S4 has 245's all around.
I can honestly say my cooper is more fun to drive than any of the 3, and there is a reason that I went with it. The ///M cars are the only ones in that category that are actually FUN to drive. The pseudo M and AMG cars have been neutered in several categories for a reason. Said reason being to upsell the customers to the ///M real AMG lines.

I would still say if the "door" situation isn't an issue, a slightly used M2 is the most fun to drive in that category and it is "ok" in price.

You can also pickup a slightly used 340i which will drive better than the S/AMG versions for sub 30k, and do slight modifications (wheels/tires/brake pads) and it would be the way to fly on a budget.
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MrH42 wrote: Wed Jan 22, 2020 3:14 pm
max225 wrote: Wed Jan 22, 2020 2:04 pm

You can't really put :225: tires up front and not expect understeer. I have driven several C300s, and sport C300 and a C450 (the same thing as a C43. The C300 which ride on the exact suspensions as the C43. they are frankly the same car as they feature the "amg" brakes. The difference is the motor, which is a peach in the C43, but I preferred the RWD cars as they come in at around 3300/3400lbs vs the heavy 4000lb AWD AMG car with even more weight in the nose.
Just came in to "well actually" you :pftch:

They're on different suspensions. The differences are minor though (slight spring and valving changes for every model). RWD ones have way more travel up front obviously, but they valved each and every variant differently to some degree.
Yep, there are also "air ride" offerings. Depending on options. There are quite a few.. but if you get a "sport" C300 it gets the bigger brakes/same seats as the C43, same wheel+ stiffer suspension + wheels. They ride incredibly similar...
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Gberg2119 wrote: Wed Jan 22, 2020 3:04 pm
max225 wrote: Wed Jan 22, 2020 2:04 pm

You can't really put :225: tires up front and not expect understeer. I have driven several C300s, and sport C300 and a C450 (the same thing as a C43. The C300 which ride on the exact suspensions as the C43. they are frankly the same car as they feature the "amg" brakes. The difference is the motor, which is a peach in the C43, but I preferred the RWD cars as they come in at around 3300/3400lbs vs the heavy 4000lb AWD AMG car with even more weight in the nose.
The S4 and 340i xdrive are both closing in on 4,000lbs too. At least the S4 has 245's all around.
A quick Google shows the m340 x drive to be about 150-175lbs more than the c43 4matic actually. 3990 vs 3825/3850 with the S4 splitting the difference.
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MrH42 wrote: Wed Jan 22, 2020 3:14 pm

Just came in to "well actually" you :pftch:

They're on different suspensions. The differences are minor though (slight spring and valving changes for every model). RWD ones have way more travel up front obviously, but they valved each and every variant differently to some degree.
Yep, there are also "air ride" offerings. Depending on options. There are quite a few.. but if you get a "sport" C300 it gets the bigger brakes/same seats as the C43, same wheel+ stiffer suspension + wheels. They ride incredibly similar...
Ah, gotcha. Yeah, they'll feel really similar.

The air ride options were paired with adaptive dampers too. I'd love to have them during a lease, never to own though.
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CaleDeRoo wrote: Wed Jan 22, 2020 3:18 pm
Gberg2119 wrote: Wed Jan 22, 2020 3:04 pm

The S4 and 340i xdrive are both closing in on 4,000lbs too. At least the S4 has 245's all around.
A quick Google shows the m340 x drive to be about 150-175lbs more than the c43 4matic actually. 3990 vs 3825/3850 with the S4 splitting the difference.
Also the BMW has a much nicer shaped/bigger trunk the C300 has a really odd shape ... Also for the linebacker crew the C class is bigger/nicer up front. Back seats are usable for 4 people in all. And MB PORNORAMIC roofs are absolutely epic.

Overally gotta pick your poison, you can't really go wrong with any of them. But they ALL will be less fun to drive than a golf R IMO.
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max225 wrote: Wed Jan 22, 2020 3:23 pm
CaleDeRoo wrote: Wed Jan 22, 2020 3:18 pm
A quick Google shows the m340 x drive to be about 150-175lbs more than the c43 4matic actually. 3990 vs 3825/3850 with the S4 splitting the difference.
Also the BMW has a much nicer shaped/bigger trunk the C300 has a really odd shape ... Also for the linebacker crew the C class is bigger/nicer up front. Back seats are usable for 4 people in all. And MB PORNORAMIC roofs are absolutely epic.

Overally gotta pick your poison, you can't really go wrong with any of them. But they ALL will be less fun to drive than a golf R IMO.
Also up until this year or last year in our sure the C had that cheap looking tablet screen on the dash
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max225 wrote: Wed Jan 22, 2020 3:23 pm
CaleDeRoo wrote: Wed Jan 22, 2020 3:18 pm
A quick Google shows the m340 x drive to be about 150-175lbs more than the c43 4matic actually. 3990 vs 3825/3850 with the S4 splitting the difference.
Also the BMW has a much nicer shaped/bigger trunk the C300 has a really odd shape ... Also for the linebacker crew the C class is bigger/nicer up front. Back seats are usable for 4 people in all. And MB PORNORAMIC roofs are absolutely epic.

Overally gotta pick your poison, you can't really go wrong with any of them. But they ALL will be less fun to drive than a golf R IMO.
Yeah probably. I may check one out :doe: once I hear back. I've gotta assume the MB would be most reliable too.
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