2020 Supra-Why I think it is half assed.

[max225]

https://www.automobilemag.com/news/firs ... 22A1FF26BF

they just bought Supra VIN 20201 for a cool $2.1 million. That might seem like an excessive premium on a car that will have a base MSRP of $50,920, but beyond the cool factor of owning the first example, the entire bid will benefit the American Heart Association and the Bob Woodruff Foundation. The Supra has also been signed by Toyota CEO Akio Toyoda—a neat extra.

Because tax write off.

[max225]

In honesty the Z will be much less costly to operate as well.

I'd really love to drive a Nismo 370. I don't find them to be unattractive at all.

Imo they are some of the most underrated sports cars ever made. Everyone is lusting for pos air cooled Porsche’s for 80k while this thing Will run circles around them for 20k or so used and never ask for anything but oil.
They are developing a shit stigma though....
Some really great people have gotten these lately thanks to the cheap price of entry ...

[coogles]

I'd really love to drive a Nismo 370. I don't find them to be unattractive at all.

They seem expensive for what they are, IMO. Easily $10k+ more than a non-Nismo for some Recaros and a different front bumper. They're sweet, doe.

[Tar]

In honesty the Z will be much less costly to operate as well.

I'd really love to drive a Nismo 370. I don't find them to be unattractive at all.

#metoo

The supra numbers make these look MORE attractive.

[Melon]

I can dig the Nismo, the base 370 just looks bulbous.

[max225]

I'd really love to drive a Nismo 370. I don't find them to be unattractive at all.

They seem expensive for what they are, IMO. Easily $10k+ more than a non-Nismo for some Recaros and a different front bumper. They're sweet, doe.

The nismo upcharge is completely insane especially on used ones

[Melon]

Toaster is winning, lulz.

[NeonJonny]

I'd really love to drive a Nismo 370. I don't find them to be unattractive at all.

#metoo

The supra numbers make these look MORE attractive.

I really like the look of them. I don’t mind the hood that much. They’ve really grown on me. I bet they’re a pleasure to drive, too.

[Tar]

#metoo

The supra numbers make these look MORE attractive.

I really like the look of them. I don’t mind the hood that much. They’ve really grown on me. I bet they’re a pleasure to drive, too.

For 1/5 the price of a Supra, you're in for good time. Now i want one.

[Tar]

Z not supra

[Tar]

Something that I discovered on LinkedIn today, and Austrian-Canadian automotive mogul Frank Stronach is contracted to build the Z4/Supra. He has always wanted to build a car from scratch so this is a nice start. There is big talk of Stronach taking over the GM Oshawa plant and building a contract car from scratch. Five to 10% of every car built has Magna parts in it. The only reason he hasn't built whole cars in the past is politics, the big three threatened Stronach with a boycott of his subassemblies if he ever decided to build his own car. As a Canadian, and automotive contractor, I am enamored by Stronach's achievements and support his efforts to save the Canadian GM plant.

[Huckleberry]

In honesty the Z will be much less costly to operate as well.

I'd really love to drive a Nismo 370. I don't find them to be unattractive at all.

Those Nismos do look good.

[Apex]

Those Nismos do look good.

I'd certainly enjoy one.

I got a ride in one at work, before his wife went insane and flipped out on my department and then quit, and it felt a lot like a 996 to me, just with a reliable motor up front. In terms of grip, speed, etc.

[D Griff]

I'd certainly enjoy one.

I got a ride in one at work, before his wife went insane and flipped out on my department and then quit, and it felt a lot like a 996 to me, just with a reliable motor up front. In terms of grip, speed, etc.

I've driven a 370 and 350, they're a lot like a C5 dynamically speaking, both are:
-powerful
-great value used
-similar size/weight/distribution
-pretty reliable and easy to work on
-track friendly but somewhat useable
-both sound good IMO

Corvette advantages:
-V8
-more cargo room

Z advantages:
-less scrape
-better shifter

[Davestr]

https://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/f ... 4-engines/

Why the Toyota Supra Makes Less Power Than the BMW Z4
-The engines are nearly equal, but not equal enough.

[Davestr]

Supra w/TRD exhaust note - I like it.

[max225]

https://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/f ... 4-engines/

Why the Toyota Supra Makes Less Power Than the BMW Z4
-The engines are nearly equal, but not equal enough.

So just a tune away from 500 wheel! Stupid engineers

[Johnny_P]

https://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/f ... 4-engines/

Why the Toyota Supra Makes Less Power Than the BMW Z4
-The engines are nearly equal, but not equal enough.

So just a tune away from 500 wheel! Stupid engineers

From the article:
"According to the BMW ETK catalog, the US variant of the Supra will be equipped with the B58B30C engine. It carries part number 11002463592, and seems very similar to the engine for the US-spec Z4 M40i. However, the Z4 engine is actually the B38B30B, and has part number 11002464415. What does that mean? There are internal differences. "

I think I spotted the difference. One is the 3 cyl, one is the 6 cyl.

reporting.

[troyguitar]

So just a tune away from 500 wheel! Stupid engineers

From the article:
"According to the BMW ETK catalog, the US variant of the Supra will be equipped with the B58B30C engine. It carries part number 11002463592, and seems very similar to the engine for the US-spec Z4 M40i. However, the Z4 engine is actually the B38B30B, and has part number 11002464415. What does that mean? There are internal differences. "

I think I spotted the difference. One is the 3 cyl, one is the 6 cyl.

reporting.

One is 5.8L and the other is 3.8L, obviously.

[Johnny_P]

From the article:
"According to the BMW ETK catalog, the US variant of the Supra will be equipped with the B58B30C engine. It carries part number 11002463592, and seems very similar to the engine for the US-spec Z4 M40i. However, the Z4 engine is actually the B38B30B, and has part number 11002464415. What does that mean? There are internal differences. "

I think I spotted the difference. One is the 3 cyl, one is the 6 cyl.

reporting.

One is 5.8L and the other is 3.8L, obviously.

[ChrisoftheNorth]

From the article:
"According to the BMW ETK catalog, the US variant of the Supra will be equipped with the B58B30C engine. It carries part number 11002463592, and seems very similar to the engine for the US-spec Z4 M40i. However, the Z4 engine is actually the B38B30B, and has part number 11002464415. What does that mean? There are internal differences. "

I think I spotted the difference. One is the 3 cyl, one is the 6 cyl.

reporting.

One is 5.8L and the other is 3.8L, obviously.

No replacement for displacement.

[max225]

How much for a tune tho ?!

[ChrisoftheNorth]

How much for a tune tho ?!

Moran engineers.

[max225]

How much for a tune tho ?!

Moran engineers.

[Melon]

I completely forgot about the Supra already.