2020 Supra-Why I think it is half assed.

[MexicanYarisTK]

Not sure if it has been posted or not but...
https://drivetribe.com/p/a-toyota-power ... ce=organic

[MexicanYarisTK]

Without the upgrade

If you think that's C5 level you clearly haven't been in one in awhile

current mustang interior, even the base one, beats the previous s197 out of the water. Murican cars have stepped up their interior game as this is coming from someone whose dad has owned nothing but Murican as his last four cars, including the current Explorer, which still holds up well after 60k miles as far as interior, minus the steering surface due to the use of heated steering (which replaced by warranty)

[wap]

I don't think the current gen Mustang interior is THAT bad.

Without the upgrade

Definitely a better steering wheel than a C5.

[D Griff]

Without the upgrade

Definitely a better steering wheel than a C5.

Better everything than a C5, (Although my MOMO wheel is great, stock was Silverado spec).

C5 interior is abysmal . I think the new Mustangs are quite nice, but I'm too poor to DFD really.

[ChrisoftheNorth]

Definitely a better steering wheel than a C5.

Better everything than a C5, (Although my MOMO wheel is great, stock was Silverado spec).

C5 interior is abysmal . I think the new Mustangs are quite nice, but I'm too poor to DFD really.

New Mustangs are fine. Not class leading by any stretch, but perfectly fine. The C5 is terrible, but it's a $10k car that's fast AF so

[Tar]

New Z4 sDrive30i vs 718 Boxster review in Car and Driver mag showed up in my mail. The Porsche was 8k more, mind you fairly devoid of options and came with a tranny, but it crushed the beamer in all driving metrics . Sounds like the Cayman vs Supra is likely the same, so if I had money to play in this segment I'd likely be leaning towards a used manual Cayman in Miami blue 5 out of 7 days.

[goIftdibrad]

New Z4 sDrive30i vs 718 Boxster review in Car and Driver mag showed up in my mail. The Porsche was 8k more, mind you fairly devoid of options and came with a tranny, but it crushed the beamer in all driving metrics . Sounds like the Cayman vs Supra is likely the same, so if I had money to play in this segment I'd likely be leaning towards a used manual Cayman in Miami blue 5 out of 7 days.

depends on if you want a true sports car or a GT car.

In hindsight, while I loved my z4, the cockster would have had more staying power.

[Tar]

New Z4 sDrive30i vs 718 Boxster review in Car and Driver mag showed up in my mail. The Porsche was 8k more, mind you fairly devoid of options and came with a tranny, but it crushed the beamer in all driving metrics . Sounds like the Cayman vs Supra is likely the same, so if I had money to play in this segment I'd likely be leaning towards a used manual Cayman in Miami blue 5 out of 7 days.

depends on if you want a true sports car or a GT car.

In hindsight, while I loved my z4, the cockster would have had more staying power.

Sports car paired with a practical daily

Edit: above two paired with a Gladiator

[Desertbreh]

It's like 10 years old

Doesn't matter if the 10 years newer is more expensive, less reliable, more expensive to maintain and half-assed, and not necessarily better in any measurable way that matters in this category.

Bingo.

[Gberg2119]

The edmunds review with Lago is up. He talks more about the way it drives and less about the BMW comparisons.

The for this car is real.

[max225]

I get every time this vehicle is called a supra, when there is nothing that is "supra" about it, other than the badge.

[Gberg2119]

I get every time this vehicle is called a supra, when there is nothing that is "supra" about it, other than the badge.

We know. It annoys me too but it doesn't change the fact that it looks great (IMO) and drives great.

[max225]

I get every time this vehicle is called a supra, when there is nothing that is "supra" about it, other than the badge.

We know. It annoys me too but it doesn't change the fact that it looks great (IMO) and drives great.

And it should at that price point. It seems like toyota put some ringer cars out there however, as they are "faster" than the #s would suggest... much faster....

I wonder when the real car will hit the streets.

[Desertbreh]

I get every time this vehicle is called a supra, when there is nothing that is "supra" about it, other than the badge.

Only the 4th Gen Supra was all that . It's the only one capable of 1200 whp on stock internals

[Gberg2119]

We know. It annoys me too but it doesn't change the fact that it looks great (IMO) and drives great.

And it should at that price point. It seems like toyota put some ringer cars out there however, as they are "faster" than the #s would suggest... much faster....

I wonder when the real car will hit the streets.

It'll be interesting to see them once they get some on dynos. BMW engines are always underrated.

I think they're supposed to be out in July.

[CaleDeRoo]

Supposedly the 385hp version is already in production, but wasn't the base 991 about the same speed with similar power?

[CaleDeRoo]

I get every time this vehicle is called a supra, when there is nothing that is "supra" about it, other than the badge.

Only the 4th Gen Supra was all that . It's the only one capable of 1200 whp on stock internals

But still runs 12s

[D Griff]

And it should at that price point. It seems like toyota put some ringer cars out there however, as they are "faster" than the #s would suggest... much faster....

I wonder when the real car will hit the streets.

It'll be interesting to see them once they get some on dynos. BMW engines are always underrated.

I think they're supposed to be out in July.

It must be pretty seriously under rated, I mean it is heavier than my car and less powerful and does the quarter-mile in like 1.5 seconds less.

I am actually with you that it is pretty damn sweet, I like the 370 Z and all but to say that this isn’t just way nicer is ridiculous. The interior and exterior are both eons above the Z, And this is coming from a person that actually likes the 370 Z.

[D Griff]

If this had a manual I would definitely take it over an M2 in my current life where I have no need for a backseat. I just think it looks much cooler and also has a better stigma for me.

[max225]

It'll be interesting to see them once they get some on dynos. BMW engines are always underrated.

I think they're supposed to be out in July.

It must be pretty seriously under rated, I mean it is heavier than my car and less powerful and does the quarter-mile in like 1.5 seconds less.

I am actually with you that it is pretty damn sweet, I like the 370 Z and all but to say that this isn’t just way nicer is ridiculous. The interior and exterior are both eons above the Z, And this is coming from a person that actually likes the 370 Z.

You can get a great 370z for 25k a Bmw is double.

[Tar]

It'll be interesting to see them once they get some on dynos. BMW engines are always underrated.

I think they're supposed to be out in July.

It must be pretty seriously under rated, I mean it is heavier than my car and less powerful and does the quarter-mile in like 1.5 seconds less.

I am actually with you that it is pretty damn sweet, I like the 370 Z and all but to say that this isn’t just way nicer is ridiculous. The interior and exterior are both eons above the Z, And this is coming from a person that actually likes the 370 Z.

Transmission plays a part I think

[Desertbreh]

We know. It annoys me too but it doesn't change the fact that it looks great (IMO) and drives great.

And it should at that price point. It seems like toyota put some ringer cars out there however, as they are "faster" than the #s would suggest... much faster....

I wonder when the real car will hit the streets.

That's where I am at ATM. It is EZ to get 50-100 extra whp out of a B58, and those times are just a little strong.

[D Griff]

It must be pretty seriously under rated, I mean it is heavier than my car and less powerful and does the quarter-mile in like 1.5 seconds less.

I am actually with you that it is pretty damn sweet, I like the 370 Z and all but to say that this isn’t just way nicer is ridiculous. The interior and exterior are both eons above the Z, And this is coming from a person that actually likes the 370 Z.

You can get a great 370z for 25k a Bmw is double.

New versus used is a comparison.

Although I’m more likely to get a Z I’m sure due to and

[max225]

You can get a great 370z for 25k a Bmw is double.

New versus used is a comparison.

Although I’m more likely to get a Z I’m sure due to and

https://www.vallejonissan.com/new-Valle ... H7KM421535

[Gberg2119]

As expected.

https://jalopnik-com.cdn.ampproject.org ... 1834928175

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