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Or dat "enthusiast special" https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/deta ... P=atempest
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As much as it's :wrong: , every time I look at that F30, I feel things. It's in Miami though, which is annoying but not a deal breaker, I could go get it next weekend or something with one of my few remaining free flights.
It's one of the last e90's :doe:

5/7 would buy this without hesitation.
It's probably gone, shit like that does not last.
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As much as it's :wrong: , every time I look at that F30, I feel things. It's in Miami though, which is annoying but not a deal breaker, I could go get it next weekend or something with one of my few remaining free flights.
The blue Juan? Go get it mang the price is right and options packages are perfect.

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It's one of the last e90's :doe:

5/7 would buy this without hesitation.
It's probably gone, shit like that does not last.
F30 is not E90

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Thu Sep 13, 2018 8:48 pm

I am not sure if he was commenting on the wagon with double the miles and years priced the same as the F30 M sport sedan.
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I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say the 328i will likely be less "fun" than a ATS or GTI.

Didn't ATS have mondo engine problems with the 2.0T first few years of production? Like pistons cracking or some shit?
Fiesta ST will likely be most fun.

I wonder, in three years, if the ST or the bloo M Sport :manuel: will be worth more. They're about the same price today.The Fiesta will probably hold value better. I have always wanted a BMW though.
Ford is essentially banning their cars in the line up next year, other than the mustang. So fost and fist probably have a decent value at the very least due to it

Also, if you really want a bmw for its driving characteristics, just get an e90 or lou style 135i. I’ve driven both e90 and f30 (never the 335i doe :sad: ) but f30 without m sport felt loose, rides smooth other than ride quality and thats about it
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I can't be the only one that thinks driving a used high mileage BMW 60+ miles a day is a bad idea right?

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I can't be the only one that thinks driving a used high mileage BMW 60+ miles a day is a bad idea right?

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He is not really doing it to an m3 that has crazy parts but instead a secretary special with blue paint and skinnier than civic tires. It should handle it just fine.

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MexicanYarisTK wrote:
Thu Sep 13, 2018 11:19 pm
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Fiesta ST will likely be most fun.

I wonder, in three years, if the ST or the bloo M Sport :manuel: will be worth more. They're about the same price today.The Fiesta will probably hold value better. I have always wanted a BMW though.
Ford is essentially banning their cars in the line up next year, other than the mustang. So fost and fist probably have a decent value at the very least due to it

Also, if you really want a bmw for its driving characteristics, just get an e90 or lou style 135i. I’ve driven both e90 and f30 (never the 335i doe :sad: ) but f30 without m sport felt loose, rides smooth other than ride quality and thats about it
There are simple fixes for that. I have now driven around 6 different F30/80 vehicles. The m sport is mostly an appearance package (especially in a 328) but a set of stiffer shocks/real wheels and tires and some brakes would make the car an epic commuter.

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I am not sure if he was commenting on the wagon with double the miles and years priced the same as the F30 M sport sedan.
Yeah, actually 5X the miles... I mean, yeah, the F30 will depreciate more. But, it looks better, better color, better fuel economy, as mentioned near new mileage for "only" 10% more.

I actually just called in about it :popcorn:

Today is test drive day.

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Fri Sep 14, 2018 10:13 am

I believe it is also equipped with the M Sport brakes, whatever those are.

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Fri Sep 14, 2018 10:17 am

Got the Carfox for it:

http://www.carfax.com/VehicleHistory/p/ ... 5XENN66313

Must've been leased by an old who hates money.

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Fri Sep 14, 2018 10:25 am

I guess they had a hard time selling it? Maybe this is what Max was saying about how BMW overinflates residual on leases and now they are all getting returned enmass and are hard to sell? No accidents or anything so I don’t know what other explanation.
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I believe it is also equipped with the M Sport brakes, whatever those are.
Probably just waxable front Calipers
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Fri Sep 14, 2018 11:38 am

D Griff wrote:
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Got the Carfox for it:

http://www.carfax.com/VehicleHistory/p/ ... 5XENN66313

Must've been leased by an old who hates money.
First owner changed the oil 3x in 12k miles... second owner didn’t give a fk :lol: wait are you in Florida ? How will you drive it ?

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Fri Sep 14, 2018 11:46 am

I can’t see the brakes it has... usually the M sport brake package is distinguished by blue calipers.
Here is what I noted:
1. No hk stereo
2. No hids
3. No nav/bigger screen
4. Poverty dash
5. No moonroof (which is nice) I prefer this chassis without it, as the moon roof is tiny as is

So this is literally a completely bare bones 328i, literally the only option is Msport + that color and that’s it. :impressive: :unicorn:

Now the base stereo is actually ok, I don’t mind it. The lack of hids is :disgust: but maybe you can swap led bulbs in there and call it a day. I really like the price point of that car...

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Fri Sep 14, 2018 12:10 pm

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Fri Sep 14, 2018 11:46 am
I can’t see the brakes it has... usually the M sport brake package is distinguished by blue calipers.
Here is what I noted:
1. No hk stereo
2. No hids
3. No nav/bigger screen
4. Poverty dash
5. No moonroof (which is nice) I prefer this chassis without it, as the moon roof is tiny as is

So this is literally a completely bare bones 328i, literally the only option is Msport + that color and that’s it. :impressive: :unicorn:

Now the base stereo is actually ok, I don’t mind it. The lack of hids is :disgust: but maybe you can swap led bulbs in there and call it a day. I really like the price point of that car...
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Fri Sep 14, 2018 12:21 pm

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Fri Sep 14, 2018 12:10 pm
max225 wrote:
Fri Sep 14, 2018 11:46 am
I can’t see the brakes it has... usually the M sport brake package is distinguished by blue calipers.
Here is what I noted:
1. No hk stereo
2. No hids
3. No nav/bigger screen
4. Poverty dash
5. No moonroof (which is nice) I prefer this chassis without it, as the moon roof is tiny as is

So this is literally a completely bare bones 328i, literally the only option is Msport + that color and that’s it. :impressive: :unicorn:

Now the base stereo is actually ok, I don’t mind it. The lack of hids is :disgust: but maybe you can swap led bulbs in there and call it a day. I really like the price point of that car...
:mindblown:
:beancounter: approval. :doit: Griff!
Just checked it has m sport brakes! Waxable calipers on every corner. Literally 1:1 spec.

22.9 is the price of a civic sport new ... or 21k used.... this thing has more power, rwd, real brakes, similar mpg, a far better interior, exterior and badge. That’s the route is go. I don’t see how it will depreciate more than the civic though they have the same $ starting point and only so far to fall.

I’d get that thing and ride it till the wheels fall off. Estoril blue is not only one of my favorite colors but it was the single most durable and best paint finish I have seen

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Fri Sep 14, 2018 12:32 pm

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Fri Sep 14, 2018 11:46 am
I can’t see the brakes it has... usually the M sport brake package is distinguished by blue calipers.
Here is what I noted:
1. No hk stereo
2. No hids
3. No nav/bigger screen
4. Poverty dash
5. No moonroof (which is nice) I prefer this chassis without it, as the moon roof is tiny as is

So this is literally a completely bare bones 328i, literally the only option is Msport + that color and that’s it. :impressive: :unicorn:

Now the base stereo is actually ok, I don’t mind it. The lack of hids is :disgust: but maybe you can swap led bulbs in there and call it a day. I really like the price point of that car...
Whats the (!) on the dash mean?

I know I'm in the minority on this but I prefer the poverty dash.
No nav, eh, not a big deal just use the phone.
Good that the stereo doesn't suck, that was a weak point in base BMWs of old from what I have read.
No HIDs is a little disappointing but if that's all that is mediocre..... :iono:

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Fri Sep 14, 2018 12:34 pm

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:mindblown:
:beancounter: approval. :doit: Griff!
Just checked it has m sport brakes! Waxable calipers on every corner. Literally 1:1 spec.

22.9 is the price of a civic sport new ... or 21k used.... this thing has more power, rwd, real brakes, similar mpg, a far better interior, exterior and badge. That’s the route is go. I don’t see how it will depreciate more than the civic though they have the same $ starting point and only so far to fall.

I’d get that thing and ride it till the wheels fall off. Estoril blue is not only one of my favorite colors but it was the single most durable and best paint finish I have seen
:dat: price is good, spec is very good, IMO it's a very good pick for a DD.

I think I would have really liked the 2 series if it were MT. I think the stick involvement would make up for lack of steering/chassis involvement.

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Fri Sep 14, 2018 12:37 pm

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Just checked it has m sport brakes! Waxable calipers on every corner. Literally 1:1 spec.

22.9 is the price of a civic sport new ... or 21k used.... this thing has more power, rwd, real brakes, similar mpg, a far better interior, exterior and badge. That’s the route is go. I don’t see how it will depreciate more than the civic though they have the same $ starting point and only so far to fall.

I’d get that thing and ride it till the wheels fall off. Estoril blue is not only one of my favorite colors but it was the single most durable and best paint finish I have seen
:dat: price is good, spec is very good, IMO it's a very good pick for a DD.

I think I would have really liked the 2 series if it were MT. I think the stick involvement would make up for lack of steering/chassis involvement.
Unpopular opinion... civic sport has better steering than the bmw, it will also ride firmer :mindblown: but other than that it’s far inferior

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Fri Sep 14, 2018 12:40 pm

Johnny_P wrote:
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max225 wrote:
Fri Sep 14, 2018 11:46 am
I can’t see the brakes it has... usually the M sport brake package is distinguished by blue calipers.
Here is what I noted:
1. No hk stereo
2. No hids
3. No nav/bigger screen
4. Poverty dash
5. No moonroof (which is nice) I prefer this chassis without it, as the moon roof is tiny as is

So this is literally a completely bare bones 328i, literally the only option is Msport + that color and that’s it. :impressive: :unicorn:

Now the base stereo is actually ok, I don’t mind it. The lack of hids is :disgust: but maybe you can swap led bulbs in there and call it a day. I really like the price point of that car...
Whats the (!) on the dash mean?

I know I'm in the minority on this but I prefer the poverty dash.
No nav, eh, not a big deal just use the phone.
Good that the stereo doesn't suck, that was a weak point in base BMWs of old from what I have read.
No HIDs is a little disappointing but if that's all that is mediocre..... :iono:

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No man the poverty dash is semi lame, it’s not night and day but it’s lamer. Not a deal breaker.
The ! Means fault code, could be anything from low fuel tires or whatever else it may be. It just means attention requires
The Nav is actually very neat when paired with live traffic it works just as good as the phone, the main point however is that ugly gray plastic around the screen(since it is smaller), not a deal breaker again but just reminding you that you went to the bargain basement

Not being hard on the car just presenting all the facts

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D Griff wrote:
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So I had a :fullretard: Detroit idea....

https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/deta ... CMP=stemp2
Careful - these do have issues with cracking pistons.

I think 2015+ changed all that.

They do drive very nicely, though, if you can live with bad gayges.
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:dat: price is good, spec is very good, IMO it's a very good pick for a DD.

I think I would have really liked the 2 series if it were MT. I think the stick involvement would make up for lack of steering/chassis involvement.
Unpopular opinion... civic sport has better steering than the bmw, it will also ride firmer :mindblown: but other than that it’s far inferior
Yeah. My GTI had better steering than the 2 I drove but meh. Throw a stick in there and the fun factor is multiplied. I could dig it.

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