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No troll, but, it gets discussed in so many other threads that we genuinely need a good place to discuss the second most important rubbers in out life.
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Keep it civil (This applies to me as well.)

Also, let's shelf the new vs. used discussion for another day.
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[user not found] wrote: Wed Jun 06, 2018 9:28 pm Great starting point is the fact that I haven't even taken delivery of the car yet but I need to start shopping for tires for the Alfa. Those 60 treadwears will be gone instantly. PS4 or PSS?
Nankangs.
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Gberg2119 wrote: Wed Jun 06, 2018 9:32 pm
[user not found] wrote: Wed Jun 06, 2018 9:28 pm Great starting point is the fact that I haven't even taken delivery of the car yet but I need to start shopping for tires for the Alfa. Those 60 treadwears will be gone instantly. PS4 or PSS?
Nankangs.
Dat discount tire direct special.
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Pro tip:

Tire Rack and Discount Tire Direct sell their products on eBay, a way to skirt the taxes.
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[user not found] wrote: Wed Jun 06, 2018 9:28 pm Great starting point is the fact that I haven't even taken delivery of the car yet but I need to start shopping for tires for the Alfa. Those 60 treadwears will be gone instantly. PS4 or PSS?
I'm super happy with the PSS.
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[user not found] wrote: Wed Jun 06, 2018 9:32 pm
[user not found] wrote: Wed Jun 06, 2018 9:28 pm Great starting point is the fact that I haven't even taken delivery of the car yet but I need to start shopping for tires for the Alfa. Those 60 treadwears will be gone instantly. PS4 or PSS?
PS4. :waxer:
Only $10 more per tire on a $310 asp tire. Costco has a :dill: on both, $70 off a set of 4 and $60 if you use their visa :notbad:
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[user not found] wrote: Wed Jun 06, 2018 9:34 pm
[user not found] wrote: Wed Jun 06, 2018 9:32 pm

PS4. :waxer:
I think only a couple hundred more than the PSS?
PSS are being phased out I thought. PS4S in case you need a replacement down the line.

If you can do costco definitely go with them. The PS4S is only showing as $1 more than the PSS in my size.
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Gberg2119 wrote: Wed Jun 06, 2018 9:38 pm
[user not found] wrote: Wed Jun 06, 2018 9:34 pm

I think only a couple hundred more than the PSS?
PSS are being phased out I thought. PS4S in case you need a replacement down the line.

If you can do costco definitely go with them. The PS4S is only showing as $1 more than the PSS in my size.
:dat:

PS4 doesn't come in :poorvette: sizes though so I'll have to reinvent the wheel next set. Pun intended.
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max225 wrote: Wed Jun 06, 2018 9:38 pm
[user not found] wrote: Wed Jun 06, 2018 9:32 pm

PS4. :waxer:
Only $10 more per tire on a $310 asp tire. Costco has a :dill: on both, $70 off a set of 4 and $60 if you use their visa :notbad:
O wow
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[user not found] wrote: Wed Jun 06, 2018 9:41 pm Good advice is good. Sold!
Buying tires for a car he hasn’t even bought yet. :impressive:
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D Griff wrote: Wed Jun 06, 2018 9:41 pm
Gberg2119 wrote: Wed Jun 06, 2018 9:38 pm

PSS are being phased out I thought. PS4S in case you need a replacement down the line.

If you can do costco definitely go with them. The PS4S is only showing as $1 more than the PSS in my size.
:dat:

PS4 doesn't come in :poorvette: sizes though so I'll have to reinvent the wheel next set. Pun intended.
There's no way they won't have :poorvette: sizes for long. They have to come out with them eventually.

When your PSS are done they should have them in PS4S.
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I base my car buying decisions partly on tire availability and pricing. RE71R's for the :wankel: are about $600/set. For a :poorvette: they're $1200. :disgust:
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[user not found] wrote: Wed Jun 06, 2018 9:34 pm
[user not found] wrote: Wed Jun 06, 2018 9:32 pm

PS4. :waxer:
I think only a couple hundred more than the PSS?
Shouldn’t be much more at all... they’re a direct replacement for the PSS. In the Porsche sizes I’ve been selling they are right around the same list price.

PSS are on a semi-official close out/fire sale though with about a 10-15% discount.

That said the PS4S is the better buy that is supposed to have better long term tire life compared to the PSS.
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Melon wrote: Wed Jun 06, 2018 9:35 pm Pro tip:

Tire Rack and Discount Tire Direct sell their products on eBay, a way to skirt the taxes.
Pro tip: [user not found] is under a 90 minute drive from Tire rack in Delaware to also skirt taxes.
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We have a store about 4 hours away. Too far to drive too close to avoid taxes.
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I'm about to blow $1650 on a set of Rivals. Unless my friend's contact with a shop can cut a deal like he says. Apparently they're a direct distributor for BFG so they can undercut TireRack by a significant amount.
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Gberg2119 wrote: Wed Jun 06, 2018 9:44 pm
D Griff wrote: Wed Jun 06, 2018 9:41 pm

:dat:

PS4 doesn't come in :poorvette: sizes though so I'll have to reinvent the wheel next set. Pun intended.
There's no way they won't have :poorvette: sizes for long. They have to come out with them eventually.

When your PSS are done they should have them in PS4S.
I actually doubt they'll have :poorvette: sizes. No modern cars run wide 17" and 18" wheels anymore.

I need 265/45r17 and 295/35r18. Both sizes are reaching impossible status. I ended up with Toyo T1 Sports, and they're pretty solid. I would have preferred Michelin, but I could not find any in my sizes anymore. PSS used to be available, not anymore.
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fledonfoot wrote: Wed Jun 06, 2018 10:34 pm
Melon wrote: Wed Jun 06, 2018 9:35 pm Pro tip:

Tire Rack and Discount Tire Direct sell their products on eBay, a way to skirt the taxes.
Pro tip: [user not found] is under a 90 minute drive from Tire rack in Delaware to also skirt taxes.
And skirt shipping fees
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Acid666 wrote: Thu Jun 07, 2018 12:01 am I'm about to blow $1650 on a set of Rivals. Unless my friend's contact with a shop can cut a deal like he says. Apparently they're a direct distributor for BFG so they can undercut TireRack by a significant amount.
315/30/18?
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This thread is far too civil. Let's talk about mold release, heat cycles, and break-in period :trollface:
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fledonfoot wrote: Wed Jun 06, 2018 10:34 pm
Melon wrote: Wed Jun 06, 2018 9:35 pm Pro tip:

Tire Rack and Discount Tire Direct sell their products on eBay, a way to skirt the taxes.
Pro tip: [user not found] is under a 90 minute drive from Tire rack in Delaware to also skirt taxes.
Other than taxes, are there any other benefits for picking up directly from Tire Rack?

About a 2hr drive for me to South Bend.
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KYGTIGuy wrote: Thu Jun 07, 2018 12:44 pm
fledonfoot wrote: Wed Jun 06, 2018 10:34 pm

Pro tip: [user not found] is under a 90 minute drive from Tire rack in Delaware to also skirt taxes.
Other than taxes, are there any other benefits for picking up directly from Tire Rack?

About a 2hr drive for me to South Bend.
Taxes, shipping, and getting them when you want. Also if you order wheels at the same time they’ll mount them for you so they’re ready to go.
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KYGTIGuy wrote: Thu Jun 07, 2018 12:44 pm
fledonfoot wrote: Wed Jun 06, 2018 10:34 pm

Pro tip: [user not found] is under a 90 minute drive from Tire rack in Delaware to also skirt taxes.
Other than taxes, are there any other benefits for picking up directly from Tire Rack?

About a 2hr drive for me to South Bend.
Taxes, shipping, and getting them when you want. Also if you order wheels at the same time they’ll mount them for you so they’re ready to go.
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Ok, I just gave this shop a call. They're legit.
My tires on TireRack are $362 a piece. With shipping and tax I'm looking at $1,635 total.

This shop, $315 a piece. Dude told me to add my local sales tax to it 4X, and then add $10 per tire for shipping.
So
4X $315 = 1260
9% Sales Tax on $315 = $28.35, X4 = 113
$40 for shipping
Grand total of $1,413

For a total difference of $222.
https://www.jacksonmotorsportsgroup.com/

They'll need you to fill out a form which basically creates an account. And you buy like you're a race team. They're a BFG distributor for race teams, so if you're looking for Rivals, these are your guys.
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[user not found] wrote: Thu Jun 07, 2018 4:36 pm
:dill: is strong. :notbad:

Also, dear lawd are them expensive tars.
Exactly why I'm trying to find a steal.
I'm filling the forms out now. I emailed them about a decal thing. There's a page saying you've got to display BFGoodrich on both sides of the car and have a patch. But my buddy told me they don't really care about that. I emailed them to confirm.

His response was this
I can send you the file and you can go to town on the decal. No charge for the decals or patches though.
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