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Detroit wrote: ↑Wed Jan 16, 2019 3:21 pm If just 1 passenger, take the back seat out entirely for more space.

But you might get use out of a roof rack. I know nothing about Wrangler roof racks

SaxyJeep wrote: ↑Wed Jan 16, 2019 3:31 pm

Detroit wrote: ↑Wed Jan 16, 2019 3:21 pm If just 1 passenger, take the back seat out entirely for more space.

But you might get use out of a roof rack. I know nothing about Wrangler roof racks

Yea, I don't have a problem just folding or event taking out the back seat for when needed, I am just thinking of for the future, since I have the soft top and if i do a trip with more people I want to have the option for transporting that doesn't involve kicking people out.

btw do you guys know which the nearest expansive park would be from the DC area? I am thinking Arizona-style expanses to drive through and camp and stargaze

[user not found] wrote: ↑Wed Jan 16, 2019 4:08 pm

Detroit wrote: ↑Wed Jan 16, 2019 3:36 pm
Not sure of parks, but the mid Atlantic back country discovery route might be an option.

There is nothing like the vastness of the west cost on the east though, not even close.

There's something being developed in MD... I stumbled on it the other day.

Can't find it now, of course.

But, Offroad Consulting runs a great 101/201 program in PA: https://offroad-consulting.com/training

[user not found] wrote: ↑Wed Jan 16, 2019 4:08 pm

Detroit wrote: ↑Wed Jan 16, 2019 3:36 pm
Not sure of parks, but the mid Atlantic back country discovery route might be an option.

There is nothing like the vastness of the west cost on the east though, not even close.

There's something being developed in MD... I stumbled on it the other day.

Can't find it now, of course.

But, Offroad Consulting runs a great 101/201 program in PA: https://offroad-consulting.com/training

Detroit wrote: ↑Wed Jan 16, 2019 3:36 pm

SaxyJeep wrote: ↑Wed Jan 16, 2019 3:31 pm

Yea, I don't have a problem just folding or event taking out the back seat for when needed, I am just thinking of for the future, since I have the soft top and if i do a trip with more people I want to have the option for transporting that doesn't involve kicking people out.

btw do you guys know which the nearest expansive park would be from the DC area? I am thinking Arizona-style expanses to drive through and camp and stargaze

Not sure of parks, but the mid Atlantic back country discovery route might be an option.

There is nothing like the vastness of the west cost on the east though, not even close.

SAWCE wrote: ↑Wed Jan 16, 2019 5:06 pm

[user not found] wrote: ↑Wed Jan 16, 2019 4:08 pm

There's something being developed in MD... I stumbled on it the other day.

Can't find it now, of course.

But, Offroad Consulting runs a great 101/201 program in PA: https://offroad-consulting.com/training

Dang, that'd be sick to take some of those.

SaxyJeep wrote: ↑Wed Jan 16, 2019 5:43 pm

Detroit wrote: ↑Wed Jan 16, 2019 3:36 pm
Not sure of parks, but the mid Atlantic back country discovery route might be an option.

There is nothing like the vastness of the west cost on the east though, not even close.

https://www.automobilemag.com/news/driv ... r-rubicon/

found this, looks like a helluva time, will add to "to-do" list.

SAWCE wrote: ↑Wed Jan 16, 2019 5:06 pm

Dang, that'd be sick to take some of those.

I definitely want to do offroading 101 and some first aid classes at REI. The site you sent doesn't seem to have a functioning schedule though :/

Edit: the schedule link worked the second time, weird...

SaxyJeep wrote: ↑Wed Jan 16, 2019 2:33 pm What do you guys think of Gobi stealth racks btw, are they actually useful, or would you stick to hitch-based attachments?

Johnny_P wrote: ↑Fri Jan 18, 2019 11:56 am

SaxyJeep wrote: ↑Wed Jan 16, 2019 2:33 pm What do you guys think of Gobi stealth racks btw, are they actually useful, or would you stick to hitch-based attachments?

Depends on what you want to do. Serious off grid overlanding you'd probably want it just for the gear carrying increase alone. But. There are many Jeep options that don't involve a roof rack per se. You can strap MaxTrax to your spare without needing anything fancy. You can mount a hi-lift to the hood. Jerry cans in front of the doors. Etc. Start carrying too much shit and you run out of room. So your options are a reinforced spare tire holder (and therefore metal bumper) which is heavy as shit but major Instagram points, or an overhead rack like this, that will probably limit your ability to put the top down.

Apex wrote: ↑Fri Jan 18, 2019 12:06 pm

Johnny_P wrote: ↑Fri Jan 18, 2019 11:56 am

Depends on what you want to do. Serious off grid overlanding you'd probably want it just for the gear carrying increase alone. But. There are many Jeep options that don't involve a roof rack per se. You can strap MaxTrax to your spare without needing anything fancy. You can mount a hi-lift to the hood. Jerry cans in front of the doors. Etc. Start carrying too much shit and you run out of room. So your options are a reinforced spare tire holder (and therefore metal bumper) which is heavy as shit but major Instagram points, or an overhead rack like this, that will probably limit your ability to put the top down.

You don't need a metal bumper to reinforce the spare tire carrier. Mopar sells them as OEM accessories too.

[user not found] wrote: ↑Wed Jan 30, 2019 2:37 pm For Max, and anyone else questioning what 'overlanding' is: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCiyiTq ... LHz-juFxIQ

Watch that channel.

Obviously here in the US, you're generally not very far from civilization so the idea of overlanding is lost on many. Travel into central and south america, or africa, and that changes: http://theroadchoseme.com/

Overlanding is all about being self-sufficient while traveling off the beaten path. That's all it is. Choose whatever vehicle you want, outfit it however you want, and survive. Obviously some cars are cheaper and easier to fix than others, and some have better aftermarket support.

SaxyJeep wrote: ↑Wed Jan 30, 2019 12:38 pm Hey all. I'm planning to go offroading/wheeling/mudandrockdriving in George Washington National Forest on the 24th of February with a friend and his Taco. Wanted to know if anyone else would like to come along, since the more the merrier (especially when it comes to pulling out if stuck, lol)

Last Sunday was fun as heck.

razr390 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 30, 2019 6:01 pm

SaxyJeep wrote: ↑Wed Jan 30, 2019 12:38 pm Hey all. I'm planning to go offroading/wheeling/mudandrockdriving in George Washington National Forest on the 24th of February with a friend and his Taco. Wanted to know if anyone else would like to come along, since the more the merrier (especially when it comes to pulling out if stuck, lol)

Last Sunday was fun as heck.

Seems like cool idea... is GWNF a destination for off roading similar to the Pines?

[user not found] wrote: ↑Wed Jan 30, 2019 2:37 pm For Max, and anyone else questioning what 'overlanding' is: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCiyiTq ... LHz-juFxIQ

Watch that channel.

Obviously here in the US, you're generally not very far from civilization so the idea of overlanding is lost on many. Travel into central and south america, or africa, and that changes: http://theroadchoseme.com/

Overlanding is all about being self-sufficient while traveling off the beaten path. That's all it is. Choose whatever vehicle you want, outfit it however you want, and survive. Obviously some cars are cheaper and easier to fix than others, and some have better aftermarket support.

Johnny_P wrote:

[user not found] wrote: ↑Wed Jan 30, 2019 2:37 pm For Max, and anyone else questioning what 'overlanding' is: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCiyiTq ... LHz-juFxIQ

Watch that channel.

Obviously here in the US, you're generally not very far from civilization so the idea of overlanding is lost on many. Travel into central and south america, or africa, and that changes: http://theroadchoseme.com/

Overlanding is all about being self-sufficient while traveling off the beaten path. That's all it is. Choose whatever vehicle you want, outfit it however you want, and survive. Obviously some cars are cheaper and easier to fix than others, and some have better aftermarket support.

For those that don't want to watch, it's basically building the most instagram worthy off road rig, with electronics and solar panels, roof top tent, gigantic complex rear drawer organizer system, and roughing it while boiling crawfish and shrimp every night because your vehicle has a built in fridge and going off grid hardcore for 36 hours a time. On roads a Jetta could travel.

max225 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 31, 2019 12:57 am

[user not found] wrote: ↑Wed Jan 30, 2019 2:37 pm For Max, and anyone else questioning what 'overlanding' is: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCiyiTq ... LHz-juFxIQ

Watch that channel.

Obviously here in the US, you're generally not very far from civilization so the idea of overlanding is lost on many. Travel into central and south america, or africa, and that changes: http://theroadchoseme.com/

Overlanding is all about being self-sufficient while traveling off the beaten path. That's all it is. Choose whatever vehicle you want, outfit it however you want, and survive. Obviously some cars are cheaper and easier to fix than others, and some have better aftermarket support.

"survive" Over-landing turned into some lavish display of excess, similar to having a 6 bed 6 bath house while having 1 crotchfruit.

Over-landing is synonymous for essentially extreme luxury of buying $1000 off road fridges for $5 worth of soda, $2000 rooftop tents etc. Just sad. Concept is novel execution meh.

I prefer the litebrite crazies tackling insane shit and somehow not totaling their brand new wrangler and the chick is

troyguitar wrote: ↑Thu Jan 31, 2019 2:36 am

Johnny_P wrote:
For those that don't want to watch, it's basically building the most instagram worthy off road rig, with electronics and solar panels, roof top tent, gigantic complex rear drawer organizer system, and roughing it while boiling crawfish and shrimp every night because your vehicle has a built in fridge and going off grid hardcore for 36 hours a time. On roads a Jetta could travel.

That version of it actually sounds good to me. Fuck pretending to be a poor 3rd worlder.

Johnny_P wrote: ↑Thu Jan 31, 2019 8:43 am

troyguitar wrote: ↑Thu Jan 31, 2019 2:36 am That version of it actually sounds good to me. Fuck pretending to be a poor 3rd worlder.

It's not bad for sure. It's kind of like having a giant RV just one that can go on 2-track trails. It's basically what I want to do, just with more stuff inside the vehicle.... so basically RV'ing... haha.

Johnny_P wrote: ↑Thu Jan 31, 2019 8:40 am

max225 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 31, 2019 12:57 am

"survive" Over-landing turned into some lavish display of excess, similar to having a 6 bed 6 bath house while having 1 crotchfruit.

Over-landing is synonymous for essentially extreme luxury of buying $1000 off road fridges for $5 worth of soda, $2000 rooftop tents etc. Just sad. Concept is novel execution meh.

I prefer the litebrite crazies tackling insane shit and somehow not totaling their brand new wrangler and the chick is

Part of me likes the concept of a RTT, the other part of me thinks its ridiculous. My major issue with it is, and I've read a bit about this on forums and such, that if you stay in a regular campground with a RTT, and you take the truck somewhere during hte day, you're packing down your whole campsite to go and then coming back and setting it all back up again. Which maybe isn't a big problem with $4k worth of slide out drawer kitchen and 2 minute tent setup, until someone else has taken your campsite because nobody is home, lol.

So what's the solution? People recommend setting up a ground tent at a campsite to claim it. Not shitting you. And then not use the ground tent.

lawl.

troyguitar wrote: ↑Thu Jan 31, 2019 9:03 am

Johnny_P wrote: ↑Thu Jan 31, 2019 8:43 am

It's not bad for sure. It's kind of like having a giant RV just one that can go on 2-track trails. It's basically what I want to do, just with more stuff inside the vehicle.... so basically RV'ing... haha.

If your goal is primarily experiencing the destinations vs having some kind of "survival' experience, then it makes sense to do it in comfort. You could go do a survival exercise in the woods of PA without a vehicle if you really wanted.