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fledonfoot wrote: Thu Nov 21, 2019 9:30 pm
Apex wrote: Thu Nov 21, 2019 9:11 pm

Green trails at Rausch Creek and AOAA are totally doable for the TuRD. It’s only $200 for a private guide for a group up to 5 vehicles. The parks require groups of at least 2 rigs, no one goes solo.
Plenty of trails in the pines are good too. Just watch out for the foliage. ;)

The :taco: has front recovery points, right?

Hit me up whenever, definitely down for more dirt-clowning.
Pass front, I think.
Hopefully.
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[user not found] wrote: Fri Nov 22, 2019 10:38 am
fledonfoot wrote: Thu Nov 21, 2019 9:30 pm

Pass front, I think.
Between all of us, we've got plenty of stuff, but good to have the following in some kind of recovery bag:

- Leather or Mechanix gloves
- Tow strap
- Hatchet
- Compressor capable of handling 33" tires
- Basic tools
- Moving blanket (if you've gotta lay on the ground)

Plus make sure you've got recovery points front and rear.

I'm gonna miss the :jeep: for trail fun, but the Trailcock should be capable enough for basic adventuring.
I highly recommend picking up some soft shackles to connect things together...and if you're going to wheel somewhat frequently, a kinetic recovery rope is pretty :mindblown: in recovery. Also, screw on tire deflators are cheap and pretty epic for letting air out. I keep them in my recovery bag.

Also a bunch of tire plugs. I've found it easier to plug a tire on the trail than deal with laying in the mud changing to the spare. I've even plugged sidewalls with success...just to get off the trail.
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[user not found] wrote: Fri Nov 22, 2019 10:38 am
fledonfoot wrote: Thu Nov 21, 2019 9:30 pm

Pass front, I think.
Between all of us, we've got plenty of stuff, but good to have the following in some kind of recovery bag:

- Leather or Mechanix gloves
- Tow strap
- Hatchet
- Compressor capable of handling 33" tires
- Basic tools
- Moving blanket (if you've gotta lay on the ground)

Plus make sure you've got recovery points front and rear.

I'm gonna miss the :jeep: for trail fun, but the Trailcock should be capable enough for basic adventuring.
Trailcock should handle any of our usual adventuring without issue.

And yeah, between the group we’ll usually have everything. My recovery bag stays in my truck so I always have it with me.
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Detroit wrote: Fri Nov 22, 2019 10:49 am
[user not found] wrote: Fri Nov 22, 2019 10:38 am

Between all of us, we've got plenty of stuff, but good to have the following in some kind of recovery bag:

- Leather or Mechanix gloves
- Tow strap
- Hatchet
- Compressor capable of handling 33" tires
- Basic tools
- Moving blanket (if you've gotta lay on the ground)

Plus make sure you've got recovery points front and rear.

I'm gonna miss the :jeep: for trail fun, but the Trailcock should be capable enough for basic adventuring.
I highly recommend picking up some soft shackles to connect things together...and if you're going to wheel somewhat frequently, a kinetic recovery rope is pretty :mindblown: in recovery. Also, screw on tire deflators are cheap and pretty epic for letting air out. I keep them in my recovery bag.

Also a bunch of tire plugs. I've found it easier to plug a tire on the trail than deal with laying in the mud changing to the spare. I've even plugged sidewalls with success...just to get off the trail.
A kinetic recovery rope and soft shackles are definitely on my list of things to pick up.
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[user not found] wrote: Fri Nov 22, 2019 11:02 am
Apex wrote: Fri Nov 22, 2019 10:51 am

A kinetic recovery rope and soft shackles are definitely on my list of things to pick up.
I've got soft shackles, kinetic rope is an eventually.
Hey, what you and your wife are into is completely your business, can we get back to trucks :doe:. ?


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[user not found] wrote: Fri Nov 22, 2019 11:02 am
Apex wrote: Fri Nov 22, 2019 10:51 am

A kinetic recovery rope and soft shackles are definitely on my list of things to pick up.
I've got soft shackles, kinetic rope is an eventually.
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I’m rocking the hard shackles.
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Apex wrote: Fri Nov 22, 2019 11:06 am
[user not found] wrote: Fri Nov 22, 2019 11:02 am

I've got soft shackles, kinetic rope is an eventually.
:notbad:

I’m rocking the hard shackles.
They're fine, just heavy and can be a bit difficult to use. The soft shackles are game changing.
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Detroit wrote: Fri Nov 22, 2019 11:09 am
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I’m rocking the hard shackles.
They're fine, just heavy and can be a bit difficult to use. The soft shackles are game changing.
Yeah, partly why I haven’t bought any softies. I don’t have a need for more right now.
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I’m rocking the hard shackles.
Yeah you are. :boner:
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I hope it doesn’t suck. I’m rather curious to what the 2door wheelbase will be.
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I hope it doesn’t suck. I’m rather curious to what the 2door wheelbase will be.
Gotta be somewhere around the Wrangler.

Original Bronco was 92” wheelbase.
I’m hoping for 102-105, but it’ll probably be 94 or something.
Dat LJ wheelbase is :tits:
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I really hope Fraud doesn’t dick this up.

They probably will. But I hope they don’t. I’d be interested in one.
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Johnny_P wrote: Sat Feb 08, 2020 9:47 pm I really hope Fraud doesn’t dick this up.

They probably will. But I hope they don’t. I’d be interested in one.
I’m just thinking about this... imagine being a principal engineer at ford over the last decade ... you were forced to give up all performance projects, all cars and focus on saving just money while keeping capex to a minimum. While your competitors were hiring/designing America’s best products and has the best teams of people with the biggest budgets/ epic profit sharing .

You would be a fool not to try and jump ship. Or you would have to be really bad at interviewing/your job.

So this breeds the worst people/teams and the worst of the big 3.

I would be shocked if it’s good
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max225 wrote: Sun Feb 09, 2020 10:59 am
Johnny_P wrote: Sat Feb 08, 2020 9:47 pm I really hope Fraud doesn’t dick this up.

They probably will. But I hope they don’t. I’d be interested in one.
I’m just thinking about this... imagine being a principal engineer at ford over the last decade ... you were forced to give up all performance projects, all cars and focus on saving just money while keeping capex to a minimum. While your competitors were hiring/designing America’s best products and has the best teams of people with the biggest budgets/ epic profit sharing .

You would be a fool not to try and jump ship. Or you would have to be really bad at interviewing/your job.

So this breeds the worst people/teams and the worst of the big 3.

I would be shocked if it’s good
https://www.motortrend.com/news/ford-mo ... s-coo-ceo/

Just as we were talking about this... big shakeups at Ford's upper management. The guy that worked on the Mach-E and Bronco projects is leaving. Lawl. :thisisfine:
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Johnny_P wrote: Sun Feb 09, 2020 1:54 pm
max225 wrote: Sun Feb 09, 2020 10:59 am

I’m just thinking about this... imagine being a principal engineer at ford over the last decade ... you were forced to give up all performance projects, all cars and focus on saving just money while keeping capex to a minimum. While your competitors were hiring/designing America’s best products and has the best teams of people with the biggest budgets/ epic profit sharing .

You would be a fool not to try and jump ship. Or you would have to be really bad at interviewing/your job.

So this breeds the worst people/teams and the worst of the big 3.

I would be shocked if it’s good
https://www.motortrend.com/news/ford-mo ... s-coo-ceo/

Just as we were talking about this... big shakeups at Ford's upper management. The guy that worked on the Mach-E and Bronco projects is leaving. Lawl. :thisisfine:
Yep that’s exactly it. Makes perfect sense I have been at failing and non failing companies over my career. And the shit happens on the downturns is terribad. The worst people stay that should have been fired years ago and it breeds the worst culture/products
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#1 rule of wheeling? Never wheel alone!

Saturday night, got an SOS text from a buddy who decided to go wheeling in his ZR2 on a whim at a local offroad park at 3:30pm. Got his truck stuck at sunset and while he tried to winch out with a farmjack, it got dark on him and he had to leave it overnight.

Drove up there early yesterday morning and yanked him out with my truck. Ice covering deep mud holes, I almost got stuck in a few spots on the way out to get to his truck. 3 tugs with my Voodoo kinetic recovery rope, and he was out. Nice little surprise wheeling trip yesterday...ice made what's usually a pretty tame offroad park quite a challenge.
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Detroit wrote: Mon Mar 02, 2020 10:06 am #1 rule of wheeling? Never wheel alone!

Saturday night, got an SOS text from a buddy who decided to go wheeling in his ZR2 on a whim at a local offroad park at 3:30pm. Got his truck stuck at sunset and while he tried to winch out with a farmjack, it got dark on him and he had to leave it overnight.

Drove up there early yesterday morning and yanked him out with my truck. Ice covering deep mud holes, I almost got stuck in a few spots on the way out to get to his truck. 3 tugs with my Voodoo kinetic recovery rope, and he was out. Nice little surprise wheeling trip yesterday...ice made what's usually a pretty tame offroad park quite a challenge.
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Detroit wrote: Mon Mar 02, 2020 10:06 am #1 rule of wheeling? Never wheel alone!

Saturday night, got an SOS text from a buddy who decided to go wheeling in his ZR2 on a whim at a local offroad park at 3:30pm. Got his truck stuck at sunset and while he tried to winch out with a farmjack, it got dark on him and he had to leave it overnight.

Drove up there early yesterday morning and yanked him out with my truck. Ice covering deep mud holes, I almost got stuck in a few spots on the way out to get to his truck. 3 tugs with my Voodoo kinetic recovery rope, and he was out. Nice little surprise wheeling trip yesterday...ice made what's usually a pretty tame offroad park quite a challenge.
That’s my biggest fear as well, getting stuck in a non reception area with no help available.
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Detroit wrote: Mon Mar 02, 2020 10:06 am #1 rule of wheeling? Never wheel alone!

Saturday night, got an SOS text from a buddy who decided to go wheeling in his ZR2 on a whim at a local offroad park at 3:30pm. Got his truck stuck at sunset and while he tried to winch out with a farmjack, it got dark on him and he had to leave it overnight.

Drove up there early yesterday morning and yanked him out with my truck. Ice covering deep mud holes, I almost got stuck in a few spots on the way out to get to his truck. 3 tugs with my Voodoo kinetic recovery rope, and he was out. Nice little surprise wheeling trip yesterday...ice made what's usually a pretty tame offroad park quite a challenge.
Sounds fun (for you). Nice work helping out a buddy in need as well :like:
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Detroit wrote: Mon Mar 02, 2020 10:06 am #1 rule of wheeling? Never wheel alone!

Saturday night, got an SOS text from a buddy who decided to go wheeling in his ZR2 on a whim at a local offroad park at 3:30pm. Got his truck stuck at sunset and while he tried to winch out with a farmjack, it got dark on him and he had to leave it overnight.

Drove up there early yesterday morning and yanked him out with my truck. Ice covering deep mud holes, I almost got stuck in a few spots on the way out to get to his truck. 3 tugs with my Voodoo kinetic recovery rope, and he was out. Nice little surprise wheeling trip yesterday...ice made what's usually a pretty tame offroad park quite a challenge.
big flex. :nice:
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max225 wrote: Mon Mar 02, 2020 10:50 am
Detroit wrote: Mon Mar 02, 2020 10:06 am #1 rule of wheeling? Never wheel alone!

Saturday night, got an SOS text from a buddy who decided to go wheeling in his ZR2 on a whim at a local offroad park at 3:30pm. Got his truck stuck at sunset and while he tried to winch out with a farmjack, it got dark on him and he had to leave it overnight.

Drove up there early yesterday morning and yanked him out with my truck. Ice covering deep mud holes, I almost got stuck in a few spots on the way out to get to his truck. 3 tugs with my Voodoo kinetic recovery rope, and he was out. Nice little surprise wheeling trip yesterday...ice made what's usually a pretty tame offroad park quite a challenge.
That’s my biggest fear as well, getting stuck in a non reception area with no help available.
Always err on the side of caution...and don't go into something you don't know. Yesterday, we hiked quite a bit finding the right series of trails to get to his truck to make sure that I didn't get stuck. Long sticks to check mud/water hole depth...shovels to rearrange rocks or obstacles if needed, I had a plan in my mind before I took on any obstacle. Extra caution when you're by yourself is critical.

And if you do get stuck...know when to stop and back up. Again, my buddy would have been able to back out of what he was stuck in if he hadn't kept his foot to the floor spinning all 4 wheels (lockers engaged), just digging down. A lot of that is experience, but it's also common sense. Not making forward progress? STOP, back up, and take another run at it. A lot of time momentum is your friend.

Out where you are, it's not so much mud/water to be concerned about, but rocks. Really important to plan ahead and watch lines. Fortunately, the trails are pretty well mapped and you can know ahead of time how bad things are going to get. Don't bother trying stuff that will be over your rig's ability.

I wouldn't wheel by myself regularly without a winch...that's a lifesaver.
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