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Oh another thought regarding ratcheting wrenches, I personally only have ones that are reversible. The first time you pulling something out and then realize it’s to tight of a fit and you can’t remove the wrench, but you also can’t reverse it to back it up, you’ll be pissed. Save that aggregation.
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Dbest wrote: Thu May 17, 2018 12:05 pm Tool kits kinda suck in my opinion for a couple reasons. They come in their blow molded cases and with cutout labeled areas where each piece goes, which isn’t bad, it just limits your ability to organize and grow your equipment . Also it has a an assortment of sockets from 8mm to 21mm but it typically won’t have a 9mm, 16mm, 18mm, they skip many sizes.
all valid points but its an ideal place to start for a n00b.
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Dbest wrote: Thu May 17, 2018 12:44 pm Oh another thought regarding ratcheting wrenches, I personally only have ones that are reversible. The first time you pulling something out and then realize it’s to tight of a fit and you can’t remove the wrench, but you also can’t reverse it to back it up, you’ll be pissed. Save that aggregation.
when i was shopping those were both thicker and fatter and therefore less useful.

I've learned to check the direction BEFORE i stick the wrench in a tight spot....
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I want a set of those ratchet wrenches. They would come in very handy I think.

My craftsman socket kit has held up well for many years now. Just 3/8 drive but it works for nearly everything.

I should get a new torque wrench. Mine is a bar style not a clicker. Clicker would be good. I don't work on my car anymore though so who cares.
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Big Brain Bradley wrote: Thu May 17, 2018 12:54 pm
Dbest wrote: Thu May 17, 2018 12:44 pm Oh another thought regarding ratcheting wrenches, I personally only have ones that are reversible. The first time you pulling something out and then realize it’s to tight of a fit and you can’t remove the wrench, but you also can’t reverse it to back it up, you’ll be pissed. Save that aggregation.
when i was shopping those were both thicker and fatter and therefore less useful.

I've learned to check the direction BEFORE i stick the wrench in a tight spot....
I don’t mean it’s a tight fit to get the wrench in, I mean the wrenchnis on the bolthead and you start loosening the bolt, you back it out a 1/4 inch, now the gap between the bolt head and the the engine block or whatever is literally to small to fit the wrench to be able to remove it, but the wrench is not reversible so you can’t screw the bolt back in to gain the clearance to remove the wrench. At that point something is literally going to get destroyed in order to remove the wrench.
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Dbest wrote: Thu May 17, 2018 1:13 pm
Big Brain Bradley wrote: Thu May 17, 2018 12:54 pm

when i was shopping those were both thicker and fatter and therefore less useful.

I've learned to check the direction BEFORE i stick the wrench in a tight spot....
I don’t mean it’s a tight fit to get the wrench in, I mean the wrenchnis on the bolthead and you start loosening the bolt, you back it out a 1/4 inch, now the gap between the bolt head and the the engine block or whatever is literally to small to fit the wrench to be able to remove it, but the wrench is not reversible so you can’t screw the bolt back in to gain the clearance to remove the wrench. At that point something is literally going to get destroyed in order to remove the wrench.
That would indeed suck.
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Dbest wrote: Thu May 17, 2018 1:13 pm
Big Brain Bradley wrote: Thu May 17, 2018 12:54 pm

when i was shopping those were both thicker and fatter and therefore less useful.

I've learned to check the direction BEFORE i stick the wrench in a tight spot....
I don’t mean it’s a tight fit to get the wrench in, I mean the wrenchnis on the bolthead and you start loosening the bolt, you back it out a 1/4 inch, now the gap between the bolt head and the the engine block or whatever is literally to small to fit the wrench to be able to remove it, but the wrench is not reversible so you can’t screw the bolt back in to gain the clearance to remove the wrench. At that point something is literally going to get destroyed in order to remove the wrench.
ITT Dbest get really angry for literally using the wrong tool for the job.
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Big Brain Bradley wrote: Thu May 17, 2018 1:19 pm
Dbest wrote: Thu May 17, 2018 1:13 pm

I don’t mean it’s a tight fit to get the wrench in, I mean the wrenchnis on the bolthead and you start loosening the bolt, you back it out a 1/4 inch, now the gap between the bolt head and the the engine block or whatever is literally to small to fit the wrench to be able to remove it, but the wrench is not reversible so you can’t screw the bolt back in to gain the clearance to remove the wrench. At that point something is literally going to get destroyed in order to remove the wrench.
ITT Dbest get really angry for literally using the wrong tool for the job.
How? Isn't the point of those ratcheting wrenches to get to tight spots? His concern seems super valid.
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Apex wrote: Thu May 17, 2018 12:28 pm
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I’m considering it for wheeling, actually.
You've got a cool group of ZR2/Colorado owners to wheel with near you. :jelly:
I am quite fortunate in that regard. Still, many of us do not carry tools because we forget that the trucks are new. It's a really good idea to have something JUST in case. Especially when I start doing more overlanding.
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Detroit wrote: Thu May 17, 2018 1:40 pm
Apex wrote: Thu May 17, 2018 12:28 pm

You've got a cool group of ZR2/Colorado owners to wheel with near you. :jelly:
I am quite fortunate in that regard. Still, many of us do not carry tools because we forget that the trucks are new. It's a really good idea to have something JUST in case. Especially when I start doing more overlanding.
Yeah, you will be incredibly glad you had tools if you ever needed them.

I'm waiting on a :dill: for something that I can keep under the back seat. I need to grab a tow strap and some shackles to keep there too.
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Detroit wrote: Thu May 17, 2018 1:38 pm
Big Brain Bradley wrote: Thu May 17, 2018 1:19 pm

ITT Dbest get really angry for literally using the wrong tool for the job.
How? Isn't the point of those ratcheting wrenches to get to tight spots? His concern seems super valid.
you'd have this problem with a regular box end. you clearly should be using the open end in this situations, with breaking it free with the box end.
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Desertbreh wrote: Thu May 17, 2018 12:31 pm
Detroit wrote: Thu May 17, 2018 12:23 pm
I’m considering it for wheeling, actually.
$150 is free for that, Faxbro's $200 set may be even better.
When it's just trail repair, you don't need any tool imaginable. Really, I just need the smallest kit that includes all size sockets. I'm already toting around a 100 lb remote mount winch, don't need to go crazy.
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Big Brain Bradley wrote: Thu May 17, 2018 1:47 pm
Detroit wrote: Thu May 17, 2018 1:38 pm
How? Isn't the point of those ratcheting wrenches to get to tight spots? His concern seems super valid.
you'd have this problem with a regular box end. you clearly should be using the open end in this situations, with breaking it free with the box end.
But they don't make open ended ratchet wrenches...or do they? :mindblown:
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Detroit wrote: Thu May 17, 2018 1:52 pm
Big Brain Bradley wrote: Thu May 17, 2018 1:47 pm

you'd have this problem with a regular box end. you clearly should be using the open end in this situations, with breaking it free with the box end.
But they don't make open ended ratchet wrenches...or do they? :mindblown:
no, but my point is you would still get 'stuck' with a fixed box end.
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Apex wrote: Thu May 17, 2018 1:42 pm
Detroit wrote: Thu May 17, 2018 1:40 pm
I am quite fortunate in that regard. Still, many of us do not carry tools because we forget that the trucks are new. It's a really good idea to have something JUST in case. Especially when I start doing more overlanding.
Yeah, you will be incredibly glad you had tools if you ever needed them.

I'm waiting on a :dill: for something that I can keep under the back seat. I need to grab a tow strap and some shackles to keep there too.
I keep a tow strap, a Factor55 receiver shackle, and a lose shackle in the truck under the seat at all times. I then have a bag with my kinetic recovery rope, soft shackle, tree saver, snatch block, two more hard shackles, and tire deflators that I throw in the truck when I'm going wheeling with the winch.

I've used it all too, pretty amazing.
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Detroit wrote: Thu May 17, 2018 1:54 pm
Apex wrote: Thu May 17, 2018 1:42 pm

Yeah, you will be incredibly glad you had tools if you ever needed them.

I'm waiting on a :dill: for something that I can keep under the back seat. I need to grab a tow strap and some shackles to keep there too.
I keep a tow strap, a Factor55 receiver shackle, and a lose shackle in the truck under the seat at all times. I then have a bag with my kinetic recovery rope, soft shackle, tree saver, snatch block, two more hard shackles, and tire deflators that I throw in the truck when I'm going wheeling with the winch.

I've used it all too, pretty amazing.
Those Factor55 receiver shackles look :tits:
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Apex wrote: Thu May 17, 2018 2:00 pm
Detroit wrote: Thu May 17, 2018 1:54 pm
I keep a tow strap, a Factor55 receiver shackle, and a lose shackle in the truck under the seat at all times. I then have a bag with my kinetic recovery rope, soft shackle, tree saver, snatch block, two more hard shackles, and tire deflators that I throw in the truck when I'm going wheeling with the winch.

I've used it all too, pretty amazing.
Those Factor55 receiver shackles look :tits:
Kind of :waxer: but I like that it's aluminum and it's quite a bit beefier than anything else on the market.
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Detroit wrote: Thu May 17, 2018 1:51 pm
Desertbreh wrote: Thu May 17, 2018 12:31 pm

$150 is free for that, Faxbro's $200 set may be even better.
When it's just trail repair, you don't need any tool imaginable. Really, I just need the smallest kit that includes all size sockets. I'm already toting around a 100 lb remote mount winch, don't need to go crazy.
Dis might become my trail repair kit...

http://www.sears.com/craftsman-230-piec ... ockType=G2#
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Detroit wrote: Thu May 17, 2018 2:03 pm
Apex wrote: Thu May 17, 2018 2:00 pm

Those Factor55 receiver shackles look :tits:
Kind of :waxer: but I like that it's aluminum and it's quite a bit beefier than anything else on the market.
Yeah, little on the :waxer: side, but I have only heard fantastic things about Factor55 stuff.
Plus, I can get it in blue or orange...
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http://www.sears.com/craftsman-172-piec ... ockType=G1

Or just go all metric...with nearly every metric size imaginable.
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Apex wrote: Thu May 17, 2018 2:10 pm
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Kind of :waxer: but I like that it's aluminum and it's quite a bit beefier than anything else on the market.
Yeah, little on the :waxer: side, but I have only heard fantastic things about Factor55 stuff.
Plus, I can get it in blue or orange...
I went with black with a red shackle. 5/7.
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BTW, bright colored shackles are a must. When it's dark out and you're trying to recover a rig, the last thing you want is a shackle that gets lost because it's black.
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Detroit wrote: Thu May 17, 2018 2:12 pm http://www.sears.com/craftsman-172-piec ... ockType=G1

Or just go all metric...with nearly every metric size imaginable.
All metric and includes more wrenches. I'd go with that one.
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Detroit wrote: Thu May 17, 2018 2:12 pm http://www.sears.com/craftsman-172-piec ... ockType=G1

Or just go all metric...with nearly every metric size imaginable.
All metric and includes more wrenches. I'd go with that one.
It's more than I'd ever need for a trail repair on my truck.
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Detroit wrote: Thu May 17, 2018 2:17 pm
Apex wrote: Thu May 17, 2018 2:14 pm

All metric and includes more wrenches. I'd go with that one.
It's more than I'd ever need for a trail repair on my truck.
Exactly the one to get then.
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