Car talk tré: Carpocalypse Now!
Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2019 6:29 pm
I’m not going down this road. Because it ends at assuming lease payments on an M3. A budget is a budget.
I’m not going down this road. Because it ends at assuming lease payments on an M3. A budget is a budget.
You can't afford $200 a month? The cost of ownershit is subsidized by OEMs. The current offer here is $1999 and $240 a month. If you can't afford that bus passes start at around $80 a month. This is as cheap as car ownershit will ever get. The cost to own an older subaru purchased for 14-15k for 2-3 years will be same or more, and you'll have to deal with repairing it.
He can turn it in early and buy a POS to commute in then. Paying through the ass for an unknown scenario is not optimizing your hard earned money.fledonfoot wrote: ↑Wed Jan 23, 2019 7:54 pm Hey, let me lease a car that I take on a 8k mile road trip... granted he doesn’t have a commute now, but what if the new gig when he gets back means s 50 mile commute... pretty quickly blown through the mileage.
Turning it in early requires paying out any remaining lease payments though... pull ahead/early termination deals usually require the finance/lease of another vehicle through the bank.max225 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 23, 2019 7:58 pmHe can turn it in early and buy a POS to commute in then. Paying through the ass for an unknown scenario is not optimizing your hard earned money.fledonfoot wrote: ↑Wed Jan 23, 2019 7:54 pm Hey, let me lease a car that I take on a 8k mile road trip... granted he doesn’t have a commute now, but what if the new gig when he gets back means s 50 mile commute... pretty quickly blown through the mileage.
You can turn it in early into any carmax, that's not a problem at all. Same shit you would go through if you were to buy a car and try and sell it before you pay it off, difference is you haven't paid sales tax on the entire vehicle on the flipside there is a $350 fee for lease end or whatever.fledonfoot wrote: ↑Wed Jan 23, 2019 8:02 pmTurning it in early requires paying out any remaining lease payments though... pull ahead/early termination deals usually require the finance/lease of another vehicle through the bank.
How essepensive can it possibly be ? 18-19mpg in a taco vs 30 mpg in an egg, and the egg requires premium...fledonfoot wrote: ↑Wed Jan 23, 2019 8:01 pm In other news, the GTI hit 30k miles today. Lifetime fuel economy is 30.6 MPG. 3 oil changes, a set of winter tires and a steering rack under warranty.
18 months of ownership... of which 6 weeks was in a loaner for the rack and 3 months driving the mini.
Usually the starts setting in by now.
I love the car. It’s quiet, decently quick, comfortable, fun and nimble. I miss my like crazy, and if I could realistically daily a Tacoma and not get crushed with fuel costs I would, but there’s not another 100 mile/day enthusiast type commuter I could remotely consider. If this thing was totaled or stolen, I would absolutely replace it with the same thing (if only they had a Sport model anymore)... the first car I’ve ever owned I could say that with.
of your MPGeez. I take it you do 10k changes? I'll probably start after this change Saturday.fledonfoot wrote: ↑Wed Jan 23, 2019 8:01 pm In other news, the GTI hit 30k miles today. Lifetime fuel economy is 30.6 MPG. 3 oil changes, a set of winter tires and a steering rack under warranty.
18 months of ownership... of which 6 weeks was in a loaner for the rack and 3 months driving the mini.
Usually the starts setting in by now.
I love the car. It’s quiet, decently quick, comfortable, fun and nimble. I miss my like crazy, and if I could realistically daily a Tacoma and not get crushed with fuel costs I would, but there’s not another 100 mile/day enthusiast type commuter I could remotely consider. If this thing was totaled or stolen, I would absolutely replace it with the same thing (if only they had a Sport model anymore)... the first car I’ve ever owned I could say that with.
Mainly the difference between a $24k GTI and a $38k taco.max225 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 23, 2019 8:06 pmHow essepensive can it possibly be ? 18-19mpg in a taco vs 30 mpg in an egg, and the egg requires premium...fledonfoot wrote: ↑Wed Jan 23, 2019 8:01 pm In other news, the GTI hit 30k miles today. Lifetime fuel economy is 30.6 MPG. 3 oil changes, a set of winter tires and a steering rack under warranty.
18 months of ownership... of which 6 weeks was in a loaner for the rack and 3 months driving the mini.
Usually the starts setting in by now.
I love the car. It’s quiet, decently quick, comfortable, fun and nimble. I miss my like crazy, and if I could realistically daily a Tacoma and not get crushed with fuel costs I would, but there’s not another 100 mile/day enthusiast type commuter I could remotely consider. If this thing was totaled or stolen, I would absolutely replace it with the same thing (if only they had a Sport model anymore)... the first car I’ve ever owned I could say that with.
It’s a problem when you don’t get what you owe... Carmax give you low market value for the car. If he buys it, drives it a ton and turns it in early, he can still be upside down. Trading in a lease early is generally remaining payments plus residual, plus disposition, plus any other penalties a bank may impose.max225 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 23, 2019 8:05 pmYou can turn it in early into any carmax, that's not a problem at all. Same shit you would go through if you were to buy a car and try and sell it before you pay it off, difference is you haven't paid sales tax on the entire vehicle on the flipside there is a $350 fee for lease end or whatever.fledonfoot wrote: ↑Wed Jan 23, 2019 8:02 pm
Turning it in early requires paying out any remaining lease payments though... pull ahead/early termination deals usually require the finance/lease of another vehicle through the bank.
Right, no different than owning, minus the $350 dispo fee and far superior from tying up 20k of your own cash in a car you don’t want anymore.fledonfoot wrote: ↑Wed Jan 23, 2019 9:09 pmIt’s a problem when you don’t get what you owe... Carmax give you low market value for the car. If he buys it, drives it a ton and turns it in early, he can still be upside down. Trading in a lease early is generally remaining payments plus residual, plus disposition, plus any other penalties a bank may impose.max225 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 23, 2019 8:05 pm
You can turn it in early into any carmax, that's not a problem at all. Same shit you would go through if you were to buy a car and try and sell it before you pay it off, difference is you haven't paid sales tax on the entire vehicle on the flipside there is a $350 fee for lease end or whatever.
10k mile LOF intervals with OEM oil and filter.Gberg2119 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 23, 2019 8:51 pmof your MPGeez. I take it you do 10k changes? I'll probably start after this change Saturday.fledonfoot wrote: ↑Wed Jan 23, 2019 8:01 pm In other news, the GTI hit 30k miles today. Lifetime fuel economy is 30.6 MPG. 3 oil changes, a set of winter tires and a steering rack under warranty.
18 months of ownership... of which 6 weeks was in a loaner for the rack and 3 months driving the mini.
Usually the starts setting in by now.
I love the car. It’s quiet, decently quick, comfortable, fun and nimble. I miss my like crazy, and if I could realistically daily a Tacoma and not get crushed with fuel costs I would, but there’s not another 100 mile/day enthusiast type commuter I could remotely consider. If this thing was totaled or stolen, I would absolutely replace it with the same thing (if only they had a Sport model anymore)... the first car I’ve ever owned I could say that with.
on the regular, also what gti is 24k?fledonfoot wrote: ↑Wed Jan 23, 2019 9:04 pmMainly the difference between a $24k GTI and a $38k taco.
The GTI calls for regular fuel. I do put premium in it, as there’s a noticeable 2+MPG difference on my commute.
The 2017 Sport 6MT in Night Blue Metallic that’s sitting in my driveway?max225 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 23, 2019 9:16 pmon the regular, also what gti is 24k?fledonfoot wrote: ↑Wed Jan 23, 2019 9:04 pm
Mainly the difference between a $24k GTI and a $38k taco.
The GTI calls for regular fuel. I do put premium in it, as there’s a noticeable 2+MPG difference on my commute.
fledonfoot wrote: ↑Wed Jan 23, 2019 9:20 pmThe 2017 Sport 6MT in Night Blue Metallic that’s sitting in my driveway?
Please run far far away from anything Fabspeed.CorvetteWaxer wrote: ↑Wed Jan 23, 2019 9:48 pm At my firiends detail shop last night I got to checkout a new GT350R.
There's no damned way that exhaust will be compliant with the CA law.
Made my 991.2 sound silent when I drove home. Other than the burble it is too damned quiet and I need to fix that soon.
Noted.fledonfoot wrote: ↑Wed Jan 23, 2019 9:50 pmPlease run far far away from anything Fabspeed.CorvetteWaxer wrote: ↑Wed Jan 23, 2019 9:48 pm At my firiends detail shop last night I got to checkout a new GT350R.
There's no damned way that exhaust will be compliant with the CA law.
Made my 991.2 sound silent when I drove home. Other than the burble it is too damned quiet and I need to fix that soon.
What'd you replace them with? Gonna get some new ramz with summers?fledonfoot wrote: ↑Wed Jan 23, 2019 9:16 pm10k mile LOF intervals with OEM oil and filter.
Drive is 46 miles one way, with 38 miles of 80mph interstate and 8 back roads.
Stock Pirelli P7 tires were garbage after 24k miles, down to 4/32”. Brakes are still 10/32”. The only other issue I have (besides cosmetic issues from highway road rash) is a rattle in the rear doors from the speakers. Other than the rack, it’s otherwise been perfect.
MSRP was 30,545. When I bought mine VW was throwing $4k in dealer cash, and I ended up with another $2400 off, which was $500 under invoice. Also scored 0.9% APR for 72 months.max225 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 23, 2019 9:21 pmfledonfoot wrote: ↑Wed Jan 23, 2019 9:20 pm
The 2017 Sport 6MT in Night Blue Metallic that’s sitting in my driveway?
I reused my sparco wheels from the mini (same bolt pattern) and bought a cheap set of hankook winter I-Cept tires for $240 on Black Friday.Gberg2119 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 23, 2019 9:54 pmWhat'd you replace them with? Gonna get some new ramz with summers?fledonfoot wrote: ↑Wed Jan 23, 2019 9:16 pm
10k mile LOF intervals with OEM oil and filter.
Drive is 46 miles one way, with 38 miles of 80mph interstate and 8 back roads.
Stock Pirelli P7 tires were garbage after 24k miles, down to 4/32”. Brakes are still 10/32”. The only other issue I have (besides cosmetic issues from highway road rash) is a rattle in the rear doors from the speakers. Other than the rack, it’s otherwise been perfect.
Your rear brakes will likely need to be changed first. I did them at around 50k. Fronts still had plenty of life left. At least on the Mk6 it was that way.
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That is a really killer deal!fledonfoot wrote: ↑Wed Jan 23, 2019 9:55 pmMSRP was 30,545. When I bought mine VW was throwing $4k in dealer cash, and I ended up with another $2400 off, which was $500 under invoice. Also scored 0.9% APR for 72 months.
At the end of MY 17, dealer cash hit $5k plus dealer discount as they blew out the remaining pre-facelift cars.