I've driven numerous Challenger/Charger in different trims and they're no Lotus but the handling is better than I expect every time.max225 wrote:Yep. But my dads 300 feels pretty darn good too. Huge but good. They are not terrible vehicles, I really like this chassisDesertbreh wrote: ↑Sun Sep 23, 2018 5:48 pm Understood but it's still a barge. That's some decent suspension tuning.
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Lisa side swiped a car as she was parking. Pulled into a parallel spot but hit the car as she was turning in. Whole right rear quarter panel is scratched and scraped. She doesn't seem to care? Amaze.
And this is why a cheap used car is great for her.
And this is why a cheap used car is great for her.
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Americans are building bigger garages because truk:
http://www.thedrive.com/news/23782/peop ... nd-pickups
http://www.thedrive.com/news/23782/peop ... nd-pickups
As the only published author in a well-known motorcycle publication in the room...
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They might need to downsize soon with the idiots at the helm in DC LOL - Yea that big truck and mileage for that nice 1+hour commute will break most folks. +Payment etc. LOL. No one learns. You dont 'need' big.4zilch wrote: ↑Mon Sep 24, 2018 9:16 am Americans are building bigger garages because truk:
http://www.thedrive.com/news/23782/peop ... nd-pickups
--JPMorgan: The risk of a 'major miscalculation' by Trump could drive oil to $90--
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The article implies that people actually store there vehicles inside doe.4zilch wrote: ↑Mon Sep 24, 2018 9:16 am Americans are building bigger garages because truk:
http://www.thedrive.com/news/23782/peop ... nd-pickups
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Most of us of in flyover country have at least 1 vehicle in the garage, the rest is used to store needless stuff. In our area, 3 bay garages have become the norm in new construction homes over the last 5-10 years. The rest of us have 2 car... Plebs have 1 or none.Apex wrote: ↑Mon Sep 24, 2018 9:32 amThe article implies that people actually store there vehicles inside doe.4zilch wrote: ↑Mon Sep 24, 2018 9:16 am Americans are building bigger garages because truk:
http://www.thedrive.com/news/23782/peop ... nd-pickups
As the only published author in a well-known motorcycle publication in the room...
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The current economy is built on a house of cards, if that. I'm generally amazed at how much debt people are willing to carry, particularly when it comes to 4-wheeled transportation.Davestr wrote: ↑Mon Sep 24, 2018 9:25 amThey might need to downsize soon with the idiots as the helm in DC LOL - Yea that big truck and mileage for that nice 1+hour commute will break most folks. +Payment etc. LOL. No one learns. You dont 'need' big.4zilch wrote: ↑Mon Sep 24, 2018 9:16 am Americans are building bigger garages because truk:
http://www.thedrive.com/news/23782/peop ... nd-pickups
--JPMorgan: The risk of a 'major miscalculation' by Trump could drive oil to $90--
As the only published author in a well-known motorcycle publication in the room...
fake news4zilch wrote: ↑Mon Sep 24, 2018 9:16 am Americans are building bigger garages because truk:
http://www.thedrive.com/news/23782/peop ... nd-pickups
clearly a garage from the 20s for 1 car aint even gonna fit a 60s american sedan.
the real take away. people are spending more money on house renos.
x1004zilch wrote: ↑Mon Sep 24, 2018 10:34 amThe current economy is built on a house of cards, if that. I'm generally amazed at how much debt people are willing to carry, particularly when it comes to 4-wheeled transportation.Davestr wrote: ↑Mon Sep 24, 2018 9:25 am
They might need to downsize soon with the idiots as the helm in DC LOL - Yea that big truck and mileage for that nice 1+hour commute will break most folks. +Payment etc. LOL. No one learns. You dont 'need' big.
--JPMorgan: The risk of a 'major miscalculation' by Trump could drive oil to $90--
$50k jeeps rolling around like Camrys.
What about the other car?Johnny_P wrote:Lisa side swiped a car as she was parking. Pulled into a parallel spot but hit the car as she was turning in. Whole right rear quarter panel is scratched and scraped. She doesn't seem to care? Amaze.
And this is why a cheap used car is great for her.
I'm that around half of the JLs I see already have $10k in mods. Who are these people?
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I have no idea, I wasn't there when it happened I just saw the aftermath.D Griff wrote: ↑Mon Sep 24, 2018 10:55 amWhat about the other car?Johnny_P wrote:Lisa side swiped a car as she was parking. Pulled into a parallel spot but hit the car as she was turning in. Whole right rear quarter panel is scratched and scraped. She doesn't seem to care? Amaze.
And this is why a cheap used car is great for her.
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like what the fk actually happened ?! I can’t imagine that happening with a sig other and being all about itD Griff wrote: ↑Mon Sep 24, 2018 10:55 amWhat about the other car?Johnny_P wrote:Lisa side swiped a car as she was parking. Pulled into a parallel spot but hit the car as she was turning in. Whole right rear quarter panel is scratched and scraped. She doesn't seem to care? Amaze.
And this is why a cheap used car is great for her.
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People with money or people with debt.... Likely the prior as JLs aren’t exactly sold on stretch pay... there are very few incentives on them, and the average finance payment on a rubicunt is $700+
Good for them and FCA.max225 wrote:People with money or people with debt.... Likely the prior as JLs aren’t exactly sold on stretch pay... there are very few incentives on them, and the average finance payment on a rubicunt is $700+
Just kind of shocking to me, I do alright and cars are one of the few things I care about and still can't imagine buying a $50k vehicle + insane amounts of pointless mods.
I feel weird about buying a Civic for under $25k.
I feel the same.D Griff wrote: ↑Mon Sep 24, 2018 11:30 amGood for them and FCA.max225 wrote:
People with money or people with debt.... Likely the prior as JLs aren’t exactly sold on stretch pay... there are very few incentives on them, and the average finance payment on a rubicunt is $700+
Just kind of shocking to me, I do alright and cars are one of the few things I care about and still can't imagine buying a $50k vehicle + insane amounts of pointless mods.
I feel weird about buying a Civic for under $25k.
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Seems like it's so dependent on where you live. Around here transportation costs can easily match what people spend on their homes. It's . Wouldn't be at all shocked if folks are walking out of Heep dealerships rocking $800/mo payments on new JLs.
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No....your rational unlike the others buying large, guzzling new trucks with stagnant incomes and little savings. Dude seriously give yourself some credit for having a fkn clue amongst the fools..D Griff wrote: ↑Mon Sep 24, 2018 11:30 amGood for them and FCA.max225 wrote:
People with money or people with debt.... Likely the prior as JLs aren’t exactly sold on stretch pay... there are very few incentives on them, and the average finance payment on a rubicunt is $700+
Just kind of shocking to me, I do alright and cars are one of the few things I care about and still can't imagine buying a $50k vehicle + insane amounts of pointless mods.
I feel weird about buying a Civic for under $25k.
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People working at minimum wage are looking at you in the sane manner. But the spread is even bigger. All they can afford is a $2500 vehicleD Griff wrote: ↑Mon Sep 24, 2018 11:30 amGood for them and FCA.max225 wrote:
People with money or people with debt.... Likely the prior as JLs aren’t exactly sold on stretch pay... there are very few incentives on them, and the average finance payment on a rubicunt is $700+
Just kind of shocking to me, I do alright and cars are one of the few things I care about and still can't imagine buying a $50k vehicle + insane amounts of pointless mods.
I feel weird about buying a Civic for under $25k.
The civic isn’t exactly cheap, 25k is a lot of money and it your second car. You already have a 12k c5