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KYGTIGuy wrote: Mon Jul 23, 2018 6:15 pm Anyone driven a Red Sport?
I had a q60 red sport rental last year.
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OE tire for golf R is dis:

CONTISPORTCONTACT 5P - SIZE: 235/35R19
Size: 235/35R19
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Load Range: XL
Serv. Desc: 91Y
UTQG: 240 AA A

I like the reviews and price point of the Extreme, so does zil and trav.

EXTREMECONTACT SPORT
Size: 235/40ZR18 95Y XL
Load Range: XL
Serv. Desc: 95Y
UTQG: 340 AA A

My question is how is the more performance oriented tire higher treadwear? My history would leave me to believe the sport contact 5P is "softer". The 5P isnt a bad tire at all and I have zero complaints. It is a tad noisy at highway speads but nothing unbearable.

The Mich Pilot sport 4S is the other option but it carries a $300 premium and is similar in performance/spec to Extreme Contact. Ive also never owned a set of :waxer: Pilot Sports so I down want to be let down with grass being greener.

HALP.
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4zilch wrote: Tue Jul 24, 2018 6:12 am
KYGTIGuy wrote: Mon Jul 23, 2018 6:15 pm Anyone driven a Red Sport?
I had a q60 red sport rental last year.
:waxer:

those are pretty nice cars.
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dubshow wrote: Tue Jul 24, 2018 10:26 am Tire questions: paging zil.

OE tire for golf R is dis:

CONTISPORTCONTACT 5P - SIZE: 235/35R19
Size: 235/35R19
AO Audi
Load Range: XL
Serv. Desc: 91Y
UTQG: 240 AA A

I like the reviews and price point of the Extreme, so does zil and trav.

EXTREMECONTACT SPORT
Size: 235/40ZR18 95Y XL
Load Range: XL
Serv. Desc: 95Y
UTQG: 340 AA A

My question is how is the more performance oriented tire higher treadwear? My history would leave me to believe the sport contact 5P is "softer". The 5P isnt a bad tire at all and I have zero complaints. It is a tad noisy at highway speads but nothing unbearable.

The Mich Pilot sport 4S is the other option but it carries a $300 premium and is similar in performance/spec to Extreme Contact. Ive also never owned a set of :waxer: Pilot Sports so I down want to be let down with grass being greener.

HALP.
I'd doubt there's much difference between the two tires in real world driving. FWIW the Extreme Contacts have slightly better reviews on tirerack for wet and dry grip and better wear.
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dubshow wrote: Tue Jul 24, 2018 10:26 am Tire questions: paging zil.

OE tire for golf R is dis:

CONTISPORTCONTACT 5P - SIZE: 235/35R19
Size: 235/35R19
AO Audi
Load Range: XL
Serv. Desc: 91Y
UTQG: 240 AA A

I like the reviews and price point of the Extreme, so does zil and trav.

EXTREMECONTACT SPORT
Size: 235/40ZR18 95Y XL
Load Range: XL
Serv. Desc: 95Y
UTQG: 340 AA A

My question is how is the more performance oriented tire higher treadwear? My history would leave me to believe the sport contact 5P is "softer". The 5P isnt a bad tire at all and I have zero complaints. It is a tad noisy at highway speads but nothing unbearable.

The Mich Pilot sport 4S is the other option but it carries a $300 premium and is similar in performance/spec to Extreme Contact. Ive also never owned a set of :waxer: Pilot Sports so I down want to be let down with grass being greener.

HALP.
The ECS tire is simply their newest compound/construction and designed to be competitive with the PSS. New shit == better for both wear and traction.

I love the ECS as a street tire, it's pretty much perfect. 5/7 would buy again if I weren't running RE71R for autox and too lazy to swap wheels twice a weekend.
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dubshow wrote: Tue Jul 24, 2018 10:26 am
4zilch wrote: Tue Jul 24, 2018 6:12 am

I had a q60 red sport rental last year.
:waxer:

those are pretty nice cars.
I enjoyed it. Nice power, nice interior, nice noises. A little soft and a little heavy. Good GT car IMO.
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troyguitar wrote: Tue Jul 24, 2018 10:35 am
dubshow wrote: Tue Jul 24, 2018 10:26 am Tire questions: paging zil.

OE tire for golf R is dis:

CONTISPORTCONTACT 5P - SIZE: 235/35R19
Size: 235/35R19
AO Audi
Load Range: XL
Serv. Desc: 91Y
UTQG: 240 AA A

I like the reviews and price point of the Extreme, so does zil and trav.

EXTREMECONTACT SPORT
Size: 235/40ZR18 95Y XL
Load Range: XL
Serv. Desc: 95Y
UTQG: 340 AA A

My question is how is the more performance oriented tire higher treadwear? My history would leave me to believe the sport contact 5P is "softer". The 5P isnt a bad tire at all and I have zero complaints. It is a tad noisy at highway speads but nothing unbearable.

The Mich Pilot sport 4S is the other option but it carries a $300 premium and is similar in performance/spec to Extreme Contact. Ive also never owned a set of :waxer: Pilot Sports so I down want to be let down with grass being greener.

HALP.
The ECS tire is simply their newest compound/construction and designed to be competitive with the PSS. New shit == better for both wear and traction.

I love the ECS as a street tire, it's pretty much perfect. 5/7 would buy again if I weren't running RE71R for autox and too lazy to swap wheels twice a weekend.
great, I have the same feels. The R is way more daily than :stig:

The 18s alos have a higher tow weight capacity. :fuckyeah: ordering EXTREMEZZZ
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dubshow wrote: Tue Jul 24, 2018 10:41 am
troyguitar wrote: Tue Jul 24, 2018 10:35 am

The ECS tire is simply their newest compound/construction and designed to be competitive with the PSS. New shit == better for both wear and traction.

I love the ECS as a street tire, it's pretty much perfect. 5/7 would buy again if I weren't running RE71R for autox and too lazy to swap wheels twice a weekend.
great, I have the same feels. The R is way more daily than :stig:

The 18s alos have a higher tow weight capacity. :fuckyeah: ordering EXTREMEZZZ
:fuckyeah:

Tires really do seem to just keep getting better overall year after year. FWIW I am pretty blown away by the PSS, they're way better in grip, noise, and ride than anything else I've owned, and, IMO worth the money. They are wearing though, bought in May and definitely noticing less depth, but four days hooning in TN/NC plus two hours on the race track will do that, I just can't expect anything to last.

We'll see how long they hold up, might try to go for a less expensive option next time since I'm not really chasing record lap times and two $900 sets of tires per year is pretty :wasteful: .
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4zilch wrote: Tue Jul 24, 2018 6:12 am
KYGTIGuy wrote: Mon Jul 23, 2018 6:15 pm Anyone driven a Red Sport?
I had a q60 red sport rental last year.
They seem like nice cars... interestingly there was one at the track day this weekend and the brakes did not hold up at all (likely due to the car's weight). So it's definitely more of a GT car, which is kind of expected.
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dubshow wrote: Tue Jul 24, 2018 10:41 am great, I have the same feels. The R is way more daily than :stig:

The 18s alos have a higher tow weight capacity. :fuckyeah: ordering EXTREMEZZZ
:fuckyeah:

Tires really do seem to just keep getting better overall year after year. FWIW I am pretty blown away by the PSS, they're way better in grip, noise, and ride than anything else I've owned, and, IMO worth the money. They are wearing though, bought in May and definitely noticing less depth, but four days hooning in TN/NC plus two hours on the race track will do that, I just can't expect anything to last.

We'll see how long they hold up, might try to go for a less expensive option next time since I'm not really chasing record lap times and two $900 sets of tires per year is pretty :wasteful: .
Maxxis VR1 for you. PSS/ECS get torn up quickly on a dry track.
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D Griff wrote: Tue Jul 24, 2018 10:54 am
4zilch wrote: Tue Jul 24, 2018 6:12 am

I had a q60 red sport rental last year.
They seem like nice cars... interestingly there was one at the track day this weekend and the brakes did not hold up at all (likely due to the car's weight). So it's definitely more of a GT car, which is kind of expected.
Did he melt the pads? The 370z has a similar issue super easily fixed with proper pads and fluid. They were made for the street not the track
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D Griff wrote: Tue Jul 24, 2018 10:53 am
dubshow wrote: Tue Jul 24, 2018 10:41 am

great, I have the same feels. The R is way more daily than :stig:

The 18s alos have a higher tow weight capacity. :fuckyeah: ordering EXTREMEZZZ
:fuckyeah:

Tires really do seem to just keep getting better overall year after year. FWIW I am pretty blown away by the PSS, they're way better in grip, noise, and ride than anything else I've owned, and, IMO worth the money. They are wearing though, bought in May and definitely noticing less depth, but four days hooning in TN/NC plus two hours on the race track will do that, I just can't expect anything to last.

We'll see how long they hold up, might try to go for a less expensive option next time since I'm not really chasing record lap times and two $900 sets of tires per year is pretty :wasteful: .
You bought pss for a poorvette? Impressive tire/cost of car ratio.

These tires wear fast, one of the fastest wearing tires I have ever had. Mine are toast in the rear after 20k but still surprisingly quiet. I’ll try to eek another 3- 5k out of them before retiring them
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$160 a month in tires :math:
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max225 wrote: Tue Jul 24, 2018 11:01 am
D Griff wrote: Tue Jul 24, 2018 10:53 am

:fuckyeah:

Tires really do seem to just keep getting better overall year after year. FWIW I am pretty blown away by the PSS, they're way better in grip, noise, and ride than anything else I've owned, and, IMO worth the money. They are wearing though, bought in May and definitely noticing less depth, but four days hooning in TN/NC plus two hours on the race track will do that, I just can't expect anything to last.

We'll see how long they hold up, might try to go for a less expensive option next time since I'm not really chasing record lap times and two $900 sets of tires per year is pretty :wasteful: .
You bought pss for a poorvette? Impressive tire/cost of car ratio.

These tires wear fast, one of the fastest wearing tires I have ever had. Mine are toast in the rear after 20k but still surprisingly quiet. I’ll try to eek another 3- 5k out of them before retiring them
So 6 years of life for me? They'd rot before I used all the tread up. :notbad:
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max225 wrote:$160 a month in tires :math:
This is why I run small 17s. $600/set for the best stuff.
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troyguitar wrote: Tue Jul 24, 2018 11:07 am
max225 wrote:$160 a month in tires :math:
This is why I run small 17s. $600/set for the best stuff.
17s are nice. Good compromise size for all around use. I don't understand the current trend to 19-22 or whatever giant dick sized wheels. Look up carfox history reports on used BMWs and you'll see single tire replaced, tire repaired, wheel replaced, etc from potholes and whatnot. Really common. And :waxer: to do on a regular basis.

My 18s are even overkill for street use. The car rides better on 17s, they weigh a lot less, and with good stiff sidewall tires will handle as well.
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max225 wrote: Tue Jul 24, 2018 11:02 am $160 a month in tires :math:
Do the math's as the master has shown above.......^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ :like:
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max225 wrote: Tue Jul 24, 2018 11:01 am
D Griff wrote: Tue Jul 24, 2018 10:53 am

:fuckyeah:

Tires really do seem to just keep getting better overall year after year. FWIW I am pretty blown away by the PSS, they're way better in grip, noise, and ride than anything else I've owned, and, IMO worth the money. They are wearing though, bought in May and definitely noticing less depth, but four days hooning in TN/NC plus two hours on the race track will do that, I just can't expect anything to last.

We'll see how long they hold up, might try to go for a less expensive option next time since I'm not really chasing record lap times and two $900 sets of tires per year is pretty :wasteful: .
You bought pss for a poorvette? Impressive tire/cost of car ratio.

These tires wear fast, one of the fastest wearing tires I have ever had. Mine are toast in the rear after 20k but still surprisingly quiet. I’ll try to eek another 3- 5k out of them before retiring them
:lolol: 20k miles... I would be excited to get 7,500. :stig:
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max225 wrote: Tue Jul 24, 2018 11:01 am
D Griff wrote: Tue Jul 24, 2018 10:53 am

:fuckyeah:

Tires really do seem to just keep getting better overall year after year. FWIW I am pretty blown away by the PSS, they're way better in grip, noise, and ride than anything else I've owned, and, IMO worth the money. They are wearing though, bought in May and definitely noticing less depth, but four days hooning in TN/NC plus two hours on the race track will do that, I just can't expect anything to last.

We'll see how long they hold up, might try to go for a less expensive option next time since I'm not really chasing record lap times and two $900 sets of tires per year is pretty :wasteful: .
You bought pss for a poorvette? Impressive tire/cost of car ratio.

These tires wear fast, one of the fastest wearing tires I have ever had. Mine are toast in the rear after 20k but still surprisingly quiet. I’ll try to eek another 3- 5k out of them before retiring them
:lolol: 20k miles... I would be excited to get 7,500. :stig:
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max225 wrote: Tue Jul 24, 2018 10:59 am
D Griff wrote: Tue Jul 24, 2018 10:54 am

They seem like nice cars... interestingly there was one at the track day this weekend and the brakes did not hold up at all (likely due to the car's weight). So it's definitely more of a GT car, which is kind of expected.
Did he melt the pads? The 370z has a similar issue super easily fixed with proper pads and fluid. They were made for the street not the track
Fluid boiled in the second lap :lolol: , his first time on a track no less. I'm sure it would be OK with better fluid/pads. BUT most stuff could be taken out by a novice and be fine from the fucktory.
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troyguitar wrote: Tue Jul 24, 2018 10:58 am
D Griff wrote:
:fuckyeah:

Tires really do seem to just keep getting better overall year after year. FWIW I am pretty blown away by the PSS, they're way better in grip, noise, and ride than anything else I've owned, and, IMO worth the money. They are wearing though, bought in May and definitely noticing less depth, but four days hooning in TN/NC plus two hours on the race track will do that, I just can't expect anything to last.

We'll see how long they hold up, might try to go for a less expensive option next time since I'm not really chasing record lap times and two $900 sets of tires per year is pretty :wasteful: .
Maxxis VR1 for you. PSS/ECS get torn up quickly on a dry track.
I'll check these out next time... I was a bit dismayed looking at my :225: at the end of the day. The grip was great though.
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troyguitar wrote: Tue Jul 24, 2018 10:58 am Maxxis VR1 for you. PSS/ECS get torn up quickly on a dry track.
I'll check these out next time... I was a bit dismayed looking at my :225: at the end of the day. The grip was great though.
Max out your camber and minimize your toe, that'll help a lot with wear (and cornering) in the meantime. I assume you're killing the front outside shoulders?
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troyguitar wrote: Tue Jul 24, 2018 11:23 am
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I'll check these out next time... I was a bit dismayed looking at my :225: at the end of the day. The grip was great though.
Max out your camber and minimize your toe, that'll help a lot with wear (and cornering) in the meantime. I assume you're killing the front outside shoulders?
Yeah, I definitely also need to rotate the two front tires before taking it to CMP again. Also need to get it inspected before going again, so I can at least keep these through "winter". I need to check my alignment specs :doe: , I had it done by this C6 racer bro who added camber over factory.
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Johnny_P wrote: Tue Jul 24, 2018 11:11 am
troyguitar wrote: Tue Jul 24, 2018 11:07 am This is why I run small 17s. $600/set for the best stuff.
17s are nice. Good compromise size for all around use. I don't understand the current trend to 19-22 or whatever giant dick sized wheels. Look up carfox history reports on used BMWs and you'll see single tire replaced, tire repaired, wheel replaced, etc from potholes and whatnot. Really common. And :waxer: to do on a regular basis.

My 18s are even overkill for street use. The car rides better on 17s, they weigh a lot less, and with good stiff sidewall tires will handle as well.
Couldn't agree more. 17's are the sweet spot.
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