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Melon wrote:I think it's priced well, looks good, and will make a fucking hell of a GT car.

:iono: what there really is to gripe about.
What color did you put your deposit down for?
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troyguitar wrote: Wed Jan 16, 2019 12:35 pm
Melon wrote:I think it's priced well, looks good, and will make a fucking hell of a GT car.

:iono: what there really is to gripe about.
What color did you put your deposit down for?
LeMelon's Blue, duh.
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Supra, to me, is like the R35 GT-R.

Neat
Then I'll see them everywhere
Meh

I wish it had a :manuel: but most of the people who owned a MKIV Supra are in their 50's and 60's, dem bad kneeze.
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Melon wrote: Wed Jan 16, 2019 12:39 pm
troyguitar wrote: Wed Jan 16, 2019 12:35 pm What color did you put your deposit down for?
LeMelon's Blue, duh.
Sorry, that's not an available color.

Can I interest you in a :eeyore: gray, Shades of Despair Gray, Midnight Gloom Gray, Prince of Darkness Black, or Summit White?
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Detroit wrote: Wed Jan 16, 2019 12:15 pm
Shit it is? It's not even a dual clutch whatever?

:impressive: :butwhy:
That ZF 8-speed is a pretty versatile tranny.
Oh, totally.

It's just interesting to see how much crap GM gets for offering a slush box in the Corvette, yet Toyota can do it with the ZOMG Supra and it's all amazing.
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Detroit wrote: Wed Jan 16, 2019 12:45 pm
Sorry, that's not an available color.

Can I interest you in a :eeyore: gray, Shades of Despair Gray, Midnight Gloom Gray, Prince of Darkness Black, or Summit White?
:yuno: offer a shade of cheese, doe.
Sorry, how about Clouds Blocking Sun Silver? It's a bright color.
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Detroit wrote: Wed Jan 16, 2019 12:47 pm Sorry, how about Clouds Blocking Sun Silver? It's a bright color.
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We also have Nazi Concrete grey
Oh! Rape of Nanking Red, that's very popular.
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Detroit wrote: Wed Jan 16, 2019 12:46 pm
[user not found] wrote: Wed Jan 16, 2019 12:33 pm

That ZF 8-speed is a pretty versatile tranny.
Oh, totally.

It's just interesting to see how much crap GM gets for offering a slush box in the Corvette, yet Toyota can do it with the ZOMG Supra and it's all amazing.
To be fair (I think), that particular trans in the Corvette gets shit on because shifting it manually is totally unenjoyable and basically pointless.

But also, fuck Toyota and BMW for this car being automatic only. Even depreciated to $30k I'll have exactly zero interest in ever owning one.
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[user not found] wrote: Wed Jan 16, 2019 12:44 pm
max225 wrote: Wed Jan 16, 2019 12:11 pm
It’s just the same 8 speed found in my dads Chrysler it’s a nice tranny
And my car. It's a fantastic transmission and anyone that doesn't believe that is showing they have absolutely zero idea what they are talking about. You wouldn't know it's not a dual clutch without being told.
I drove one in the Jaguar F-Type R, it's a damn fine slushbox.
It has clutch packs that can activate band clutches in the transmission to mimic a DCT.
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Melon wrote: Wed Jan 16, 2019 12:51 pm
Detroit wrote: Wed Jan 16, 2019 12:47 pm Sorry, how about Clouds Blocking Sun Silver? It's a bright color.
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We also have Nazi Concrete grey
Oh! Rape of Nanking Red, that's very popular.
:ohdang:
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coogles wrote: Wed Jan 16, 2019 12:52 pm
Detroit wrote: Wed Jan 16, 2019 12:46 pm
Oh, totally.

It's just interesting to see how much crap GM gets for offering a slush box in the Corvette, yet Toyota can do it with the ZOMG Supra and it's all amazing.
To be fair (I think), that particular trans in the Corvette gets shit on because shifting it manually is totally unenjoyable and basically pointless.

But also, fuck Toyota and BMW for this car being automatic only. Even depreciated to $30k I'll have exactly zero interest in ever owning one.
I've driven the GM 8 speed in manual mode and find it to be engaging. But it's an auto, :whocares: about shifting it.
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[user not found] wrote: Wed Jan 16, 2019 12:53 pm
Detroit wrote: Wed Jan 16, 2019 12:46 pm
Oh, totally.

It's just interesting to see how much crap GM gets for offering a shuddering slush box in the Corvette, yet Toyota can do it with the ZOMG Supra and it's all amazing.
FTFY.

Lots of complaints surround that fucking mess of a slushbox in everything that transmission's gone into. Sad!
Haven't heard about the complaint in the Corvette. But also haven't researched it, so :iono:
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Melon wrote: Wed Jan 16, 2019 12:53 pm
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And my car. It's a fantastic transmission and anyone that doesn't believe that is showing they have absolutely zero idea what they are talking about. You wouldn't know it's not a dual clutch without being told.
I drove one in the Jaguar F-Type R, it's a damn fine slushbox.
It has clutch packs that can activate band clutches in the transmission to mimic a DCT.
:impressive:
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Detroit wrote: Wed Jan 16, 2019 12:55 pm
Haven't heard about the complaint in the Corvette. But also haven't researched it, so :iono:
Yeah, I've found evidence of trouble with that transmission all over.

Not a good sign.
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Detroit wrote: Wed Jan 16, 2019 12:46 pm It's just interesting to see how much crap GM gets for offering a slush box in the Corvette, yet Toyota can do it with the ZOMG Supra and it's all amazing.
I think GM only caught a little bit of shit for offering the Z06 with an automatic. These aren't the 4L60E days.

But I do recall numerous articles complaining about the Supra not getting a manual when that news broke a few months back.
coogles wrote: Wed Jan 16, 2019 12:52 pm To be fair (I think), that particular trans in the Corvette gets shit on because shifting it manually is totally unenjoyable and basically pointless.

But also, fuck Toyota and BMW for this car being automatic only. Even depreciated to $30k I'll have exactly zero interest in ever owning one.
GM's 8 speed is garbage. The ZF 8 speed is awesome.

And I agree: fuck both Toyota and BMW for killing manual options.
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[user not found] wrote: Wed Jan 16, 2019 12:59 pm
Detroit wrote: Wed Jan 16, 2019 12:55 pm
Haven't heard about the complaint in the Corvette. But also haven't researched it, so :iono:
Yeah, I've found evidence of trouble with that transmission all over.

Not a good sign.
:aintcare: the future is electric breh. No transmissions.

:yeahok:
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[user not found] wrote: Wed Jan 16, 2019 12:59 pm
Detroit wrote: Wed Jan 16, 2019 12:55 pm
Haven't heard about the complaint in the Corvette. But also haven't researched it, so :iono:
Yeah, I've found evidence of trouble with that transmission all over.

Not a good sign.
I drove a 2018 Sierra with that 8 speed. I hated the way it drove.
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Huckleberry wrote: Wed Jan 16, 2019 1:03 pm
[user not found] wrote: Wed Jan 16, 2019 12:59 pm

Yeah, I've found evidence of trouble with that transmission all over.

Not a good sign.
I drove a 2018 Sierra with that 8 speed. I hated the way it drove.
GM doesn't use ZF 8 speed... it is their own design last I checked?
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max225 wrote: Wed Jan 16, 2019 12:15 am
M2 or Supra ? Which one would you pick ?
I think I'd Supra.

M2 comes in at 3600 lbs or so, Supra (according to the internet :notsure: ) comes in around 3200.

I'd Supra.

But... :manuel:

:iono:
Yeah but the m2cs, keep up with the program z!
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Huckleberry wrote: Wed Jan 16, 2019 1:02 pm
Detroit wrote: Wed Jan 16, 2019 12:46 pm It's just interesting to see how much crap GM gets for offering a slush box in the Corvette, yet Toyota can do it with the ZOMG Supra and it's all amazing.
I think GM only caught a little bit of shit for offering the Z06 with an automatic. These aren't the 4L60E days.

But I do recall numerous articles complaining about the Supra not getting a manual when that news broke a few months back.
coogles wrote: Wed Jan 16, 2019 12:52 pm To be fair (I think), that particular trans in the Corvette gets shit on because shifting it manually is totally unenjoyable and basically pointless.

But also, fuck Toyota and BMW for this car being automatic only. Even depreciated to $30k I'll have exactly zero interest in ever owning one.
GM's 8 speed is garbage. The ZF 8 speed is awesome.

And I agree: fuck both Toyota and BMW for killing manual options.
Uhh the m2 cs still comes with :manuel:
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max225 wrote: Wed Jan 16, 2019 1:16 pm
Huckleberry wrote: Wed Jan 16, 2019 1:03 pm

I drove a 2018 Sierra with that 8 speed. I hated the way it drove.
GM doesn't use ZF 8 speed... it is their own design last I checked?
Yep, and it's apparently garbage.
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CorvetteWaxer wrote: Wed Jan 16, 2019 9:40 am
MexicanYarisTK wrote: Wed Jan 16, 2019 8:47 am

The styling is great don’t get me wrong. It’s just doesn’t have the authenticity this time. Really the only difference this time is the styling.
I can't wait to see the new Supras running around with JDM stickers all over them.

:lolol: :lolgasm:
Its not like many of them can afford them, so wait a few years, depending how they will depreciate
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Detroit wrote: Wed Jan 16, 2019 1:21 pm
max225 wrote: Wed Jan 16, 2019 1:16 pm

GM doesn't use ZF 8 speed... it is their own design last I checked?
Yep, and it's apparently garbage.
Well it isn't a rebadged BMW 240i marked up 10k sold by toyota. Of course it is. The entire forum is ordering that RIGHT NOW!
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Detroit wrote: Wed Jan 16, 2019 1:21 pm
max225 wrote: Wed Jan 16, 2019 1:16 pm

GM doesn't use ZF 8 speed... it is their own design last I checked?
Yep, and it's apparently garbage.
I believe the pre zf8 for BMW’s also used gm’s 6 speed auto. Ive driven my ex coworkers 328xi and compared to my moms old ‘11 f10 535i, it is night and day.
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max225 wrote: Wed Jan 16, 2019 1:22 pm
Detroit wrote: Wed Jan 16, 2019 1:21 pm
Yep, and it's apparently garbage.
Well it isn't a rebadged BMW 240i marked up 10k sold by toyota. Of course it is. The entire forum is ordering that RIGHT NOW!
Oh right.
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