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4zilch wrote: Wed Jan 16, 2019 8:06 am Supra, just so I can watch DFD tell me how :wrong: I am.
my really only/largest gripe is WTF is with the HP... Bmw get 382hp while toyota is limited at 335hp.... for $50k that aint cutting it.

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https://www.caranddriver.com/toyota/supra
A90 generation gets a version of BMW's B58 turbocharged and direct-injected 3.0-liter inline-six making 335 horsepower and 365 lb-ft of torque. Naturally, there's room for more power—the Z4's B58 is tweaked to 382 horses
:flaccid:

but man i do love the styling. even if it is just a newer z4 coupe.
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Melon wrote: Wed Jan 16, 2019 8:14 am I like the Supra's looks, and it looks nothing like the fat bulbous 370Z.
:dat:

if its not YUGE IRL, i think it will be a winner in the short tem at least.

That Z4 :doe: :drool:

not hard top convertible :doe: :disappoint:
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Yeah, the Z4 is pretty badass.
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CorvetteWaxer wrote: Wed Jan 16, 2019 9:40 am
MexicanYarisTK wrote: Wed Jan 16, 2019 8:47 am

The styling is great don’t get me wrong. It’s just doesn’t have the authenticity this time. Really the only difference this time is the styling.
I can't wait to see the new Supras running around with JDM stickers all over them.

:lolol: :lolgasm:
You know its only a matter of time LOL!! Supra n Vape n shake via fart can lol
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Big Brain Bradley wrote: Wed Jan 16, 2019 10:04 am

:dat:

if its not YUGE IRL, i think it will be a winner in the short tem at least.

That Z4 :doe: :drool:

not hard top convertible :doe: :disappoint:
It looks quite compact. And hard top convertibles are such a :flaccid: thing. So much weight and complexity.

I wish the RF was a removable targa soft panel.
Ok wont disagree, however on a car thats more GT oriented like a z4 the quietness on the road with a hard top.....the lack of leaks...the refinement..... its a worthy compromise.

On the miata :doe: i do with they just did a panel like the old honda del sol's
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I'm still not ready to give up :manuel: in my fun car :doe:
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Detroit wrote: Wed Jan 16, 2019 10:42 am I'm still not ready to give up :manuel: in my fun car :doe:
Maybe I'll feel differently once I actually have a fun car, but right now I don't want to give it up in the DD, either.
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M2 has 440hp currently ... also Supra is no way In hell going to be 3200lbs, maybe in the 2.0T. This is a bmw after all it’ll weigh within 100-200lbs of a comparable 240i
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coogles wrote: Wed Jan 16, 2019 11:24 am
Detroit wrote: Wed Jan 16, 2019 10:42 am I'm still not ready to give up :manuel: in my fun car :doe:
Maybe I'll feel differently once I actually have a fun car, but right now I don't want to give it up in the DD, either.
I was reluctant, but with 90% of my commute in traffic, it sure is nice to commute in the Volt. One pedal driving is awesome for traffic.
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[user not found] wrote: Wed Jan 16, 2019 11:54 am
max225 wrote: Wed Jan 16, 2019 11:29 am M2 has 440hp currently ... also Supra is no way In hell going to be 3200lbs, maybe in the 2.0T. This is a bmw after all it’ll weigh within 100-200lbs of a comparable 240i
Yeah, but power isn't everything. 335 HP is still plenty quick.

It's just depressing for the goons who only do 0-120-0 runs on the illegally blocked highway in Tejas.
the point is the car is half assed and it shows.

Power isn’t everything :yeahok: it’s 50-60k sports car it better be fast
Interior is all bmw :yeahok: thAt makes sense for a Toyota.

Did they do anything ? What exactly is the distinguishing feature of this vehicle ? I just don’t understand how it was even made
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Detroit wrote: Wed Jan 16, 2019 11:36 am
coogles wrote: Wed Jan 16, 2019 11:24 am

Maybe I'll feel differently once I actually have a fun car, but right now I don't want to give it up in the DD, either.
I was reluctant, but with 90% of my commute in traffic, it sure is nice to commute in the Volt. One pedal driving is awesome for traffic.
I do 1 pedal driving in the m3. It is fun!
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max225 wrote: Wed Jan 16, 2019 11:57 am the point is the car is half assed and it shows.

Power isn’t everything :yeahok: it’s 50-60k sports car it better be fast
Interior is all bmw :yeahok: thAt makes sense for a Toyota.

Did they do anything ? What exactly is the distinguishing feature of this vehicle ? I just don’t understand how it was even made
I don't think the car was half-assed at all. :iono:

I just don't think it'll be competitive for the cost.
:dat:

The car looks sharp and reviews well. Drop the price or give it some more boost from the factory. 400 hp would be more in line with $50-60k.
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max225 wrote: Wed Jan 16, 2019 11:58 am
Detroit wrote: Wed Jan 16, 2019 11:36 am
I was reluctant, but with 90% of my commute in traffic, it sure is nice to commute in the Volt. One pedal driving is awesome for traffic.
I do 1 pedal driving in the m3. It is fun!
Manual mode holding gears for engine braking?
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troyguitar wrote: Wed Jan 16, 2019 12:03 pm
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I don't think the car was half-assed at all. :iono:

I just don't think it'll be competitive for the cost.
:dat:

The car looks sharp and reviews well. Drop the price or give it some more boost from the factory. 400 hp would be more in line with $50-60k.
0-60 in 4.1 sec, does it really need much more power? That's pretty quick. Gearing must be :jimp:
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Detroit wrote: Wed Jan 16, 2019 12:07 pm
troyguitar wrote: Wed Jan 16, 2019 12:03 pm :dat:

The car looks sharp and reviews well. Drop the price or give it some more boost from the factory. 400 hp would be more in line with $50-60k.
0-60 in 4.1 sec, does it really need much more power? That's pretty quick. Gearing must be :jimp:
It’s just the same 8 speed found in my dads Chrysler it’s a nice tranny
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Detroit wrote:
troyguitar wrote: Wed Jan 16, 2019 12:03 pm :dat:

The car looks sharp and reviews well. Drop the price or give it some more boost from the factory. 400 hp would be more in line with $50-60k.
0-60 in 4.1 sec, does it really need much more power? That's pretty quick. Gearing must be :jimp:
Automatics with pre-spooled turbos and launch control are quick off the line. :whocares: that's not real life acceleration... An identically priced (automatic) C7 will still beat it in every metric.
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[user not found] wrote: Wed Jan 16, 2019 12:10 pm
Detroit wrote: Wed Jan 16, 2019 12:07 pm
0-60 in 4.1 sec, does it really need much more power? That's pretty quick. Gearing must be :jimp:
Shame it won't come with :manuel:
Probably what makes it so quick to 60 :doe:

I'd never be a customer for this thing anyway, so they could be a CVT in it for all I care.

A base Cayman :manuel: can rip 0-60 in 4.3 sec according to C&D. I'd take that over this for the same price any day.
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troyguitar wrote: Wed Jan 16, 2019 12:13 pm
Detroit wrote: 0-60 in 4.1 sec, does it really need much more power? That's pretty quick. Gearing must be :jimp:
Automatics with pre-spooled turbos and launch control are quick off the line. :whocares: that's not real life acceleration... An identically priced (automatic) C7 will still beat it in every metric.
Shit, you can get a base auto C7 for under $50k these days. Indeed, it will destroy this in every measure.
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max225 wrote: Wed Jan 16, 2019 12:11 pm
Detroit wrote: Wed Jan 16, 2019 12:07 pm
0-60 in 4.1 sec, does it really need much more power? That's pretty quick. Gearing must be :jimp:
It’s just the same 8 speed found in my dads Chrysler it’s a nice tranny
Shit it is? It's not even a dual clutch whatever?

:impressive: :butwhy:
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Detroit wrote: Wed Jan 16, 2019 12:15 pm
max225 wrote: Wed Jan 16, 2019 12:11 pm
It’s just the same 8 speed found in my dads Chrysler it’s a nice tranny
Shit it is? It's not even a dual clutch whatever?

:impressive: :butwhy:
Dual clutch is reserved for m cars. I bet it won’t even come with a lsd standard. I’ll write up my thoughts later
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Detroit wrote: Wed Jan 16, 2019 12:15 pm
max225 wrote: Wed Jan 16, 2019 12:11 pm
It’s just the same 8 speed found in my dads Chrysler it’s a nice tranny
Shit it is? It's not even a dual clutch whatever?

:impressive: :butwhy:
8-speed slushbox just like in the C7... which apparently does 0-60 in 3.6 seconds with the automatic, so completely :plaid: for the same price.
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troyguitar wrote: Wed Jan 16, 2019 12:19 pm
Detroit wrote: Wed Jan 16, 2019 12:15 pm
Shit it is? It's not even a dual clutch whatever?

:impressive: :butwhy:
8-speed slushbox just like in the C7... which apparently does 0-60 in 3.6 seconds with the automatic, so completely :plaid: for the same price.
The C7 is a performance bargain. Always has been.

But it doesn't have the fanboi following like the Supra. Not mad JDM yo...oh wait...
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max225 wrote: Wed Jan 16, 2019 12:19 pm
Detroit wrote: Wed Jan 16, 2019 12:15 pm
Shit it is? It's not even a dual clutch whatever?

:impressive: :butwhy:
Dual clutch is reserved for m cars. I bet it won’t even come with a lsd standard. I’ll write up my thoughts later
It's a Toyota, not an M car.
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I think it's priced well, looks good, and will make a fucking hell of a GT car.

:iono: what there really is to gripe about.
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