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max225 wrote: Tue Dec 11, 2018 3:00 pm A macan is just too much money for a DD appliance vehicle... they don't get much in terms of discunts and they are around 60-65 with the "standard" options that are sitting on the lots. That's a lot of money to blow on a tiny golf.
Aren’t they on the A4 chassis?
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max225 wrote: Tue Dec 11, 2018 3:00 pm A macan is just too much money for a DD appliance vehicle... they don't get much in terms of discunts and they are around 60-65 with the "standard" options that are sitting on the lots. That's a lot of money to blow on a tiny golf.
Aren’t they on the A4 chassis?
I thought they're transverse?

The B9 A4 is supposed to be pretty good with the sport package :doe:
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max225 wrote: Tue Dec 11, 2018 5:18 pm
Tarspin wrote: Tue Dec 11, 2018 4:03 pm

Maxs next car is as hard to guess as it is to win the lotto. One minute it's a Rubi, and the next thing you know the stock market tanks ten points and a 2015 C350 becomes the belle de jour! It's one of the more lively DFD topics. We need a powl!
The C350 would be from 2008-12. No such thing as a 2015 C350... that's the new gen which costs around 20k... The markets do dictate what I drive. Why wouldn't they? a big portion of my income is tied to them.
Old Comand interface is pretty horrific but I liked these cars overall. The V6 is big and super smooth. 7 speed is great too.
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troyguitar wrote: Tue Dec 11, 2018 7:05 pm
Johnny_P wrote:
Aren’t they on the A4 chassis?
I thought they're transverse?

The B9 A4 is supposed to be pretty good with the sport package :doe:
Yeah they’re MLB which is the A4/A5/Q5 chassis. It gets real AWD.
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troyguitar wrote: Tue Dec 11, 2018 7:05 pm I thought they're transverse?

The B9 A4 is supposed to be pretty good with the sport package :doe:
Yeah they’re MLB which is the A4/A5/Q5 chassis. It gets real AWD.
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So it's like a jacked up heavier A4 that's more expensive and smaller inside.

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troyguitar wrote: Tue Dec 11, 2018 7:08 pm
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Yeah they’re MLB which is the A4/A5/Q5 chassis. It gets real AWD.
:notbad:

So it's like a jacked up heavier A4 that's more expensive and smaller inside.

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Yeah. Double wishbone front suspension not a pos mcstrut. Plus better engines but yeah bad fuel mileage because it’s a crosstrek not a low car.
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troyguitar wrote: Tue Dec 11, 2018 7:08 pm
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Yeah they’re MLB which is the A4/A5/Q5 chassis. It gets real AWD.
:notbad:

So it's like a jacked up heavier A4 that's more expensive and smaller inside.

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Imagine if it was AIR COOLED?! You'd have to blow your sales hole to get a chance to pay 100% markup over MSRP.
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Johnny_P wrote: Tue Dec 11, 2018 7:10 pm
troyguitar wrote: Tue Dec 11, 2018 7:08 pm :notbad:

So it's like a jacked up heavier A4 that's more expensive and smaller inside.

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Yeah. Double wishbone front suspension not a pos mcstrut. Plus better engines but yeah bad fuel mileage because it’s a crosstrek not a low car.
:whocares: about double wishboners in a grocery getter. As long as it drives good... :yikes:
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max225 wrote: Tue Dec 11, 2018 7:11 pm
Johnny_P wrote: Tue Dec 11, 2018 7:10 pm

Yeah. Double wishbone front suspension not a pos mcstrut. Plus better engines but yeah bad fuel mileage because it’s a crosstrek not a low car.
:whocares: about double wishboners in a grocery getter. As long as it drives good... :yikes:
I agree with this. IMO the real Bennie of the A4 chassis is the real, rear biased AWD.
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max225 wrote: Tue Dec 11, 2018 7:10 pm
troyguitar wrote: Tue Dec 11, 2018 7:08 pm :notbad:

So it's like a jacked up heavier A4 that's more expensive and smaller inside.

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Imagine if it was AIR COOLED?! You'd have to blow your sales hole to get a chance to pay 100% markup over MSRP.
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max225 wrote: Tue Dec 11, 2018 5:18 pm
Tarspin wrote: Tue Dec 11, 2018 4:03 pm

Maxs next car is as hard to guess as it is to win the lotto. One minute it's a Rubi, and the next thing you know the stock market tanks ten points and a 2015 C350 becomes the belle de jour! It's one of the more lively DFD topics. We need a powl!
The C350 would be from 2008-12. No such thing as a 2015 C350... that's the new gen which costs around 20k... The markets do dictate what I drive. Why wouldn't they? a big portion of my income is tied to them.
Soooo no powl then?
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Tarspin wrote: Tue Dec 11, 2018 7:39 pm
max225 wrote: Tue Dec 11, 2018 5:18 pm

The C350 would be from 2008-12. No such thing as a 2015 C350... that's the new gen which costs around 20k... The markets do dictate what I drive. Why wouldn't they? a big portion of my income is tied to them.
Soooo no powl then?
It would have a so much random shit on there it would be quite crazy.
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max225 wrote:
Tarspin wrote: Tue Dec 11, 2018 7:39 pm Soooo no powl then?
It would have a so much random shit on there it would be quite crazy.
You're the only guy I know who ever cross shopped a Shitvic and Wrangayler, then ended up buying a BMW M3.
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D Griff wrote: Tue Dec 11, 2018 9:18 pm
max225 wrote:
It would have a so much random shit on there it would be quite crazy.
You're the only guy I know who ever cross shopped a Shitvic and Wrangayler, then ended up buying a BMW M3.
Yea I’m totally :derp: and don’t descrimintate across
Price bands etc. I want to experience as many different vehicles as I can before I croak or can’t do it anymore
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Johnny_P wrote: Tue Dec 11, 2018 7:04 pm
max225 wrote: Tue Dec 11, 2018 3:00 pm A macan is just too much money for a DD appliance vehicle... they don't get much in terms of discunts and they are around 60-65 with the "standard" options that are sitting on the lots. That's a lot of money to blow on a tiny golf.
Aren’t they on the A4 chassis?
my macan owned uncle told me that the awd system is from a q5.

edit: and I was right, a4, a6, q5, macan all are on MLB platform. But not right about quattro as it uses a system that leans more towards the haldex. With the performance pack of Macan S, with sport plus, 80% of the power goes to rear wheels.
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Big Brain Bradley wrote: Wed Dec 12, 2018 8:16 am http://www.thedrive.com/news/25422/toyo ... 9hDS-w8y-4
Hybrid corolla hatch with electric rear drive/recovery

noooooooo
Prius, RAV4, and a few Lexus models offer a similar system and it seems generally well received.
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Davestr wrote: Wed Dec 12, 2018 11:20 am https://jalopnik.com/the-2019-bmw-3-ser ... 1830970018 -- The 2019 BMW 3 Series Is Back to Being a Great Driver's Car Even Without the Manual
Why get that when the Mazda 6 is way better from a brand that actually cares about driving, unlike this stupid thing.
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I'm pretty much :whocares: at this point.
Desertbreh wrote: Tue Oct 10, 2017 6:40 pm My guess would be that Chris took some time off because he has read the dialogue on this page 1,345 times and decided to spend some of his free time doing something besides beating a horse to death.
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max225 wrote: Wed Dec 12, 2018 11:23 am
Davestr wrote: Wed Dec 12, 2018 11:20 am https://jalopnik.com/the-2019-bmw-3-ser ... 1830970018 -- The 2019 BMW 3 Series Is Back to Being a Great Driver's Car Even Without the Manual
Why get that when the Mazda 6 is way better from a brand that actually cares about driving, unlike this stupid thing.
Now you're getting it!
Desertbreh wrote: Tue Oct 10, 2017 6:40 pm My guess would be that Chris took some time off because he has read the dialogue on this page 1,345 times and decided to spend some of his free time doing something besides beating a horse to death.
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BMW should bring back a kick ass version of the 318. Sporty stripped down hatch would be cool and I think would sell. Heck I think the 318s moved fairly well IIRC
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Detroit wrote: Wed Dec 12, 2018 11:44 am
I'm pretty much :whocares: at this point.
I stopped caring when I saw the bmw version released. These fancy high tech POS just don't do it for me nowadays.
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