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I like these. Going to need constant attention though. Suspension, bushings, cooling system, etc will all need replacement sooner than later at that mileage.coogles wrote: ↑Tue May 22, 2018 4:44 pm Fack. Why do I still have a soft spot for these?
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Probably. I do miss wrenching, but NEEDING to wrench when it's your daily is something else. Plus once the kid comes I'll need a car that can shuttle the little terror to daycare even though now I can take public transportation to work. If it was within a reasonable drive I'd go check it out, but Raleigh is good 10 hour drive from here.Johnny_P wrote:I like these. Going to need constant attention though. Suspension, bushings, cooling system, etc will all need replacement sooner than later at that mileage.
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I can't remember if you have a garage or not. Something like this would require that or a driveway at least. I don't think anything on this car is overly hard to DIY, as I'm sure there are how-to's on a ton of forums by now for all the regular problems. The engine itself and 6MT seem durable, it's just the shit bolted to them that fails. Which is much easier to replace.coogles wrote: ↑Wed May 23, 2018 8:42 amProbably. I do miss wrenching, but NEEDING to wrench when it's your daily is something else. Plus once the kid comes I'll need a car that can shuttle the little terror to daycare even though now I can take public transportation to work. If it was within a reasonable drive I'd go check it out, but Raleigh is good 10 hour drive from here.Johnny_P wrote:I like these. Going to need constant attention though. Suspension, bushings, cooling system, etc will all need replacement sooner than later at that mileage.
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If you have a workspace you could get this as the fixer-upper fun tinkering project, and get something more mundane/comfy to drive the kiddo around in.
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I do. If both cars are in there it's totally unusable for working on one, but with the other car in the driveway it's plenty of space. Would need better lighting if I was going to be wrenching a lot, but that's not a big deal.Johnny_P wrote:I can't remember if you have a garage or not. Something like this would require that or a driveway at least. I don't think anything on this car is overly hard to DIY, as I'm sure there are how-to's on a ton of forums by now for all the regular problems. The engine itself and 6MT seem durable, it's just the shit bolted to them that fails. Which is much easier to replace.
If you have a workspace you could get this as the fixer-upper fun tinkering project, and get something more mundane/comfy to drive the kiddo around in.
I don't think I'd get one of these as a "fun" car. I know some people do, but they're just not special enough IMO to warrant that kind of treatment.
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Understood. I'd probably look for something a bit more special as well as a second car.coogles wrote: ↑Wed May 23, 2018 9:15 amI do. If both cars are in there it's totally unusable for working on one, but with the other car in the driveway it's plenty of space. Would need better lighting if I was going to be wrenching a lot, but that's not a big deal.Johnny_P wrote:I can't remember if you have a garage or not. Something like this would require that or a driveway at least. I don't think anything on this car is overly hard to DIY, as I'm sure there are how-to's on a ton of forums by now for all the regular problems. The engine itself and 6MT seem durable, it's just the shit bolted to them that fails. Which is much easier to replace.
If you have a workspace you could get this as the fixer-upper fun tinkering project, and get something more mundane/comfy to drive the kiddo around in.
I don't think I'd get one of these as a "fun" car. I know some people do, but they're just not special enough IMO to warrant that kind of treatment.
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Johnny_P wrote: ↑Wed May 23, 2018 9:35 amUnderstood. I'd probably look for something a bit more special as well as a second car.coogles wrote: ↑Wed May 23, 2018 9:15 am
I do. If both cars are in there it's totally unusable for working on one, but with the other car in the driveway it's plenty of space. Would need better lighting if I was going to be wrenching a lot, but that's not a big deal.
I don't think I'd get one of these as a "fun" car. I know some people do, but they're just not special enough IMO to warrant that kind of treatment.
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Desertbreh wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2017 6:40 pm My guess would be that Chris took some time off because he has read the dialogue on this page 1,345 times and decided to spend some of his free time doing something besides beating a horse to death.
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It really is. I know I've been on it with some shit, but once I got the kinks fully worked out on it, I absolutely love it. I'm driving it less now too with the Volt being fixed, so keeping it "special" has really made it
Desertbreh wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2017 6:40 pm My guess would be that Chris took some time off because he has read the dialogue on this page 1,345 times and decided to spend some of his free time doing something besides beating a horse to death.
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Could have been done earlier or maybe not needed. Seems this owner was happy to toss money to have dealer maintenance done and documented.max225 wrote: ↑Tue May 22, 2018 4:54 pmcoogles wrote: ↑Tue May 22, 2018 4:44 pm Fack. Why do I still have a soft spot for these?
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kind of owned this car.3/18/10 (46,000) - Maintenance inspection complete. Exterior light checked. Front axles replaced. Lower control arm bushings replaced. Alignment performed. Passed emissions/safety. (BMW Dealer).
No shock replacements...
No cooling system replacement...
wtf is going on there.
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Uh....bruh......check the referenced data from Max on lack of cooling system replacement and suspension. My post is referencing that. So take your complimentary boardgame, exit stage left and thanks for playing.
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Car has 100k miles.... i think it is just about "used up". Would need all that + clutch in the next 1-2 years... If someone is good at wrenching themselves it is a decent enough buy as the parts aren't terribly expensive. Most are beat to shit and salvaged. But continuing to "dealer" service this car is a financial nightmare.
Also the ZHP cars are 's they have very peculiar vanos setups that is 3x as complicated as the base cars, yet only yielding 5-10 extra hp, they fail frequently right around 100k miles as well.
Having owned a dealer maintained E46 of that vintage with an enthusiast owner that actually gave me ~15k worth of receipts by the time reached 80k miles... I'd say there is a lot to do... it will require constant tinkering. I am also not a huge fan of that chassis, it is made of glass, with the rear subframe falling out etc.
been there done that. not worth it, better options out there.
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Sorry, I totally missed the post you were replying to.
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An E46 is hardly used up at 100k. They definitely require some care and at this point should only owned by people comfortable with turning wrenches themselves, but there are examples everywhere of E46s running 200k, 250k+ and still kicking. Saw one guy's maintenance thread on ZHPMafiamax225 wrote: ↑Wed May 23, 2018 1:37 pm Car has 100k miles.... i think it is just about "used up". Would need all that + clutch in the next 1-2 years... If someone is good at wrenching themselves it is a decent enough buy as the parts aren't terribly expensive. Most are beat to shit and salvaged. But continuing to "dealer" service this car is a financial nightmare.
Also the ZHP cars are 's they have very peculiar vanos setups that is 3x as complicated as the base cars, yet only yielding 5-10 extra hp, they fail frequently right around 100k miles as well.
Having owned a dealer maintained E46 of that vintage with an enthusiast owner that actually gave me ~15k worth of receipts by the time reached 80k miles... I'd say there is a lot to do... it will require constant tinkering. I am also not a huge fan of that chassis, it is made of glass, with the rear subframe falling out etc.
been there done that. not worth it, better options out there.
that mentioned he was still on the original clutch past 300k. The cars aren't reliable in the way a Camry is, but the are incredibly durable.
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Really depends on what you deem as acceptable. (a lot of these are "old car issues" ) that ppl don't care about...coogles wrote: ↑Wed May 23, 2018 2:02 pmAn E46 is hardly used up at 100k. They definitely require some care and at this point should only owned by people comfortable with turning wrenches themselves, but there are examples everywhere of E46s running 200k, 250k+ and still kicking. Saw one guy's maintenance thread on ZHPMafiamax225 wrote: ↑Wed May 23, 2018 1:37 pm Car has 100k miles.... i think it is just about "used up". Would need all that + clutch in the next 1-2 years... If someone is good at wrenching themselves it is a decent enough buy as the parts aren't terribly expensive. Most are beat to shit and salvaged. But continuing to "dealer" service this car is a financial nightmare.
Also the ZHP cars are 's they have very peculiar vanos setups that is 3x as complicated as the base cars, yet only yielding 5-10 extra hp, they fail frequently right around 100k miles as well.
Having owned a dealer maintained E46 of that vintage with an enthusiast owner that actually gave me ~15k worth of receipts by the time reached 80k miles... I'd say there is a lot to do... it will require constant tinkering. I am also not a huge fan of that chassis, it is made of glass, with the rear subframe falling out etc.
been there done that. not worth it, better options out there.
that mentioned he was still on the original clutch past 300k. The cars aren't reliable in the way a Camry is, but the are incredibly durable.
1. The nav is utterly useless and essentially requires replacement as the maps date back to when ppl had nokia brickphones and it is not user friendly and hideous.
2. The rear shelf fades to a blue color from black due to sun exposure
3. every single bushing is dry rotted by 100k miles
4. Rear subframe cracks and needs welds, or structural foam or both, it happens on most cars, especially on manual cars and those with larger wheels/tires both of which this car is equipped with
5. Leather/etc all is quite aged, I changed my shift boot as it was fucked, steering wheel is shiny.. etc
6. xenons start failing
7. cooling system as mentioned
8. mine popped a wheel bearing at 90k, not terribly expensive but annoying
9. TPMS will need work
10. Various sensors tend to fail.
11. Vanos as mentioned
12. Speakers start to dry rot out...
Yes you can take nearly anything to 200k miles but it requires work, in this case quite a bit, the first and second owners enjoyed nearly trouble free ownership, but that won't be the case for the 3rd owner. These cars are not that reliable, there are a lot of areas that need constant attention unless you're willing to just old car shit, like some dudes do and drive around with oil/coolant leaks and noisy/worn out suspensions. A Camry as you drew in your comparison wouldn't need 80% of that.
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A stroked 550+ WHP V10 M5... what could possibly go wrong.
A stroked 550+ WHP V10 M5... what could possibly go wrong.
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Looks like he's moving on because the car has been grenading its transmissions.max225 wrote: ↑Wed May 23, 2018 2:59 pm https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/cto/d/ ... 94630.html
A stroked 550+ WHP V10 M5... what could possibly go wrong.
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max225 wrote: ↑Wed May 23, 2018 2:12 pmReally depends on what you deem as acceptable. (a lot of these are "old car issues" ) that ppl don't care about...coogles wrote: ↑Wed May 23, 2018 2:02 pm
An E46 is hardly used up at 100k. They definitely require some care and at this point should only owned by people comfortable with turning wrenches themselves, but there are examples everywhere of E46s running 200k, 250k+ and still kicking. Saw one guy's maintenance thread on ZHPMafia
that mentioned he was still on the original clutch past 300k. The cars aren't reliable in the way a Camry is, but the are incredibly durable.
1. The nav is utterly useless and essentially requires replacement as the maps date back to when ppl had nokia brickphones and it is not user friendly and hideous.
2. The rear shelf fades to a blue color from black due to sun exposure
3. every single bushing is dry rotted by 100k miles
4. Rear subframe cracks and needs welds, or structural foam or both, it happens on most cars, especially on manual cars and those with larger wheels/tires both of which this car is equipped with
5. Leather/etc all is quite aged, I changed my shift boot as it was fucked, steering wheel is shiny.. etc
6. xenons start failing
7. cooling system as mentioned
8. mine popped a wheel bearing at 90k, not terribly expensive but annoying
9. TPMS will need work
10. Various sensors tend to fail.
11. Vanos as mentioned
12. Speakers start to dry rot out...
Yes you can take nearly anything to 200k miles but it requires work, in this case quite a bit, the first and second owners enjoyed nearly trouble free ownership, but that won't be the case for the 3rd owner. These cars are not that reliable, there are a lot of areas that need constant attention unless you're willing to just old car shit, like some dudes do and drive around with oil/coolant leaks and noisy/worn out suspensions. A Camry as you drew in your comparison wouldn't need 80% of that.
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Desertbreh wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2017 6:40 pm My guess would be that Chris took some time off because he has read the dialogue on this page 1,345 times and decided to spend some of his free time doing something besides beating a horse to death.
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Very true, except the E46 has more features than the average used car from that decade. Lots of sensors, lots of airbags, fancy lights, navi units etc. More shit to break[user not found] wrote: ↑Wed May 23, 2018 3:23 pmAside from the subframe and vanos, almost everything on your list is a wear item or old-car-thing at this point.max225 wrote: ↑Wed May 23, 2018 2:12 pm
Really depends on what you deem as acceptable. (a lot of these are "old car issues" ) that ppl don't care about...
1. The nav is utterly useless and essentially requires replacement as the maps date back to when ppl had nokia brickphones and it is not user friendly and hideous.
2. The rear shelf fades to a blue color from black due to sun exposure
3. every single bushing is dry rotted by 100k miles
4. Rear subframe cracks and needs welds, or structural foam or both, it happens on most cars, especially on manual cars and those with larger wheels/tires both of which this car is equipped with
5. Leather/etc all is quite aged, I changed my shift boot as it was fucked, steering wheel is shiny.. etc
6. xenons start failing
7. cooling system as mentioned
8. mine popped a wheel bearing at 90k, not terribly expensive but annoying
9. TPMS will need work
10. Various sensors tend to fail.
11. Vanos as mentioned
12. Speakers start to dry rot out...
Yes you can take nearly anything to 200k miles but it requires work, in this case quite a bit, the first and second owners enjoyed nearly trouble free ownership, but that won't be the case for the 3rd owner. These cars are not that reliable, there are a lot of areas that need constant attention unless you're willing to just old car shit, like some dudes do and drive around with oil/coolant leaks and noisy/worn out suspensions. A Camry as you drew in your comparison wouldn't need 80% of that.
And pretty much any pre-owned BMW past 75k miles/7 years should have the cooling system checked/overhauled. Rite of passage.