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Finally took the time to break down some video from Grattan as well as this weekend's event at Putnam in Indiana. My lap times have improved significantly from last year.
At Grattan in 2017, my lap times were around 1:37. In 2018, 1:32's all day with traffic, 1:30 flats and a few :29's thrown in when I was able to get a clean track.
Putnam in late 2017, 1:25's and 1:24's. In 2018, 1:22 with traffic, 1:20-flat and a few 1:19's with a clean track.
At Grattan in 2017, my lap times were around 1:37. In 2018, 1:32's all day with traffic, 1:30 flats and a few :29's thrown in when I was able to get a clean track.
Putnam in late 2017, 1:25's and 1:24's. In 2018, 1:22 with traffic, 1:20-flat and a few 1:19's with a clean track.
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It's all the orange you've added to your pit setup.4zilch wrote: ↑Mon Jul 16, 2018 10:52 am Finally took the time to break down some video from Grattan as well as this weekend's event at Putnam in Indiana. My lap times have improved significantly from last year.
At Grattan in 2017, my lap times were around 1:37. In 2018, 1:32's all day with traffic, 1:30 flats and a few :29's thrown in when I was able to get a clean track.
Putnam in late 2017, 1:25's and 1:24's. In 2018, 1:22 with traffic, 1:20-flat and a few 1:19's with a clean track.
Nice job!
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Damn, bikes must be slow in the corners. We ran 1:20 at Grattan in shifter karts with a top speed of 110 at best, probably more like 107.
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And I couldn't get all of the orange in the same pic. Car, generator, canopy are all orange as well.Apex wrote: ↑Mon Jul 16, 2018 10:58 amIt's all the orange you've added to your pit setup.4zilch wrote: ↑Mon Jul 16, 2018 10:52 am Finally took the time to break down some video from Grattan as well as this weekend's event at Putnam in Indiana. My lap times have improved significantly from last year.
At Grattan in 2017, my lap times were around 1:37. In 2018, 1:32's all day with traffic, 1:30 flats and a few :29's thrown in when I was able to get a clean track.
Putnam in late 2017, 1:25's and 1:24's. In 2018, 1:22 with traffic, 1:20-flat and a few 1:19's with a clean track.
Nice job!
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Cars have greater mechanical grip and generally carry far more corner speed particularly in lower speed corners and change direction quicker. I suspect that a shifter kart would absolutely destroy 95% of motorcycles from T3 all the way through the hairpin.troyguitar wrote: ↑Mon Jul 16, 2018 11:05 am Damn, bikes must be slow in the corners. We ran 1:20 at Grattan in shifter karts with a top speed of 110 at best, probably more like 107.
Additional details from my times:
I'm not the fastest rider and there's still opportunity for improvement
I'm not on slicks - I was approaching grip limits at Grattan with the tires that I ran.
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troyguitar wrote: ↑Mon Jul 16, 2018 11:08 amYou definitely can't sell the KTM then, you're too invested in Team Orange...4zilch wrote:
And I couldn't get all of the orange in the same pic. Car, generator, canopy are all orange as well.
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Figured i would join in again now that we are gearing up for track season.
This was at our last trackday, the stripped out civic and I were in a proper 4-5 lap battle having fun when our ape of a friend Wrecky came through the turn in full opposite lock(Abbey was riding along with him).
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This was at our last trackday, the stripped out civic and I were in a proper 4-5 lap battle having fun when our ape of a friend Wrecky came through the turn in full opposite lock(Abbey was riding along with him).
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Looking good Billy Ray.4zilch wrote: ↑Sat Jun 30, 2018 6:34 am Finally got to my first track day of the year with a group of about 60 riders at a private event 3-day at held annually at Grattan Raceway in MI.
I was as comfortable as I’ve ever been KTM. I ran in the intermediate group and came up to speed quickly. By mid-way through the first day, I getting my knee down in places that I had never been able to in prior trips. The bike felt great and I was able to explore corner entry speed and rear tire grip. By the end of the day, I was easily the quickest in the group. Day two was more of the same and as tire wear became an issue, I began to enjoy letting the rear spin up on corner exit.. several other riders noted how much fun I appeared to be having. The experience has me second guessing selling the KTM.
The Honda was also a lot of fun, though I was running into carb issues while at the track. I’m fairly certain main jet is too big and would load up the engine by the end of the 5/8+ Mile straight. When I’d close the throttle to begin braking into turn 1, the bike would begin bogging and cutting out, I even had the bike momentarily stall while leaned over nearly causing me to low-side. After that I didn’t get it out much for fear of crashing in front of someone and ruining both of our days.
When the bike did run well it was a lot of fun. Passing everyone in the corners, getting passed back on the straights, then riding around the outside of everyone in turn 1.
Next trackday is in 2 weeks at Putnam.
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This has got to be hands down the fastest acceleration I think I've ever seen from on board video of an autocross run. This car is ridiculous. Original 1 owner Shelby Cobra with 800+hp engine. Read the comments of what's in it..
And here's the results from that event. https://www.good-guys.com/dmn-ac-18
It is an aluminum Shelby block with Blue Thunder heads that have about 40 hours of porting work. The engine is 440 cid with a 3.75" stroke Sonny Briant crank , Carrilo rods with small journals and Wiseco 15 to 1 pistons. Max revs 9300 820 hp at 8200 556 torque at 7500. A very big cam with the best valve springs I could buy. FAST port injection, Wilson 1600 cfm throttle body and Victor jr manifold. Lots of development time on this engine so that we could run a 4.88 gear and still get 67 mph in low, idea was to keep rpm up on slow corners typical of Goodguys but still be able to go 65 mph without shifting. The engine makes over 400 lb/ft at 3000 so it pulls like hell even down there (21 mph) car weighs 2370 and is running 200 tw tires required by rules. Headers are 2 1/8" primaries fuel VP Q16.
And here's the results from that event. https://www.good-guys.com/dmn-ac-18
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Bad ass, no questionAcid666 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 21, 2018 2:48 pm This has got to be hands down the fastest acceleration I think I've ever seen from on board video of an autocross run. This car is ridiculous. Original 1 owner Shelby Cobra with 800+hp engine. Read the comments of what's in it..It is an aluminum Shelby block with Blue Thunder heads that have about 40 hours of porting work. The engine is 440 cid with a 3.75" stroke Sonny Briant crank , Carrilo rods with small journals and Wiseco 15 to 1 pistons. Max revs 9300 820 hp at 8200 556 torque at 7500. A very big cam with the best valve springs I could buy. FAST port injection, Wilson 1600 cfm throttle body and Victor jr manifold. Lots of development time on this engine so that we could run a 4.88 gear and still get 67 mph in low, idea was to keep rpm up on slow corners typical of Goodguys but still be able to go 65 mph without shifting. The engine makes over 400 lb/ft at 3000 so it pulls like hell even down there (21 mph) car weighs 2370 and is running 200 tw tires required by rules. Headers are 2 1/8" primaries fuel VP Q16.
And here's the results from that event. https://www.good-guys.com/dmn-ac-18
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thats fastAcid666 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 21, 2018 2:48 pm This has got to be hands down the fastest acceleration I think I've ever seen from on board video of an autocross run. This car is ridiculous. Original 1 owner Shelby Cobra with 800+hp engine. Read the comments of what's in it..It is an aluminum Shelby block with Blue Thunder heads that have about 40 hours of porting work. The engine is 440 cid with a 3.75" stroke Sonny Briant crank , Carrilo rods with small journals and Wiseco 15 to 1 pistons. Max revs 9300 820 hp at 8200 556 torque at 7500. A very big cam with the best valve springs I could buy. FAST port injection, Wilson 1600 cfm throttle body and Victor jr manifold. Lots of development time on this engine so that we could run a 4.88 gear and still get 67 mph in low, idea was to keep rpm up on slow corners typical of Goodguys but still be able to go 65 mph without shifting. The engine makes over 400 lb/ft at 3000 so it pulls like hell even down there (21 mph) car weighs 2370 and is running 200 tw tires required by rules. Headers are 2 1/8" primaries fuel VP Q16.
And here's the results from that event. https://www.good-guys.com/dmn-ac-18
that course is irresponsibility dangerous
good guys is just a bunch of old guys in hot rods jerking eachother off for the most part.
brain go brrrrrr
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Fastest car I've ever been in was an AC Cobra that made 465 at the rear wheels. Holy God. Pinned you in the seat hard. That car was scary though, handling was really iffy on it.
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Yeah I had to look up what was up with these guys. Looks like they were limited on space for their events. That wall of cones and barrier so damn close to them makes me cringe.Big Brain Bradley wrote: ↑Tue Aug 21, 2018 3:25 pm
thats fast
that course is irresponsibility dangerous
good guys is just a bunch of old guys in hot rods jerking eachother off for the most part.
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The orange on black looks total bad ass. I considered a couple of bikes like that but never pulled the trigger. I'd consider a bad ass supermoto for the streets around here if as opposed to the Vrod, since I'd only really ride in town. Having power on demand on a bike that's agile would be fun.4zilch wrote: ↑Sat Jun 30, 2018 6:34 am Finally got to my first track day of the year with a group of about 60 riders at a private event 3-day at held annually at Grattan Raceway in MI.
I was as comfortable as I’ve ever been KTM. I ran in the intermediate group and came up to speed quickly. By mid-way through the first day, I getting my knee down in places that I had never been able to in prior trips. The bike felt great and I was able to explore corner entry speed and rear tire grip. By the end of the day, I was easily the quickest in the group. Day two was more of the same and as tire wear became an issue, I began to enjoy letting the rear spin up on corner exit.. several other riders noted how much fun I appeared to be having. The experience has me second guessing selling the KTM.
The Honda was also a lot of fun, though I was running into carb issues while at the track. I’m fairly certain main jet is too big and would load up the engine by the end of the 5/8+ Mile straight. When I’d close the throttle to begin braking into turn 1, the bike would begin bogging and cutting out, I even had the bike momentarily stall while leaned over nearly causing me to low-side. After that I didn’t get it out much for fear of crashing in front of someone and ruining both of our days.
When the bike did run well it was a lot of fun. Passing everyone in the corners, getting passed back on the straights, then riding around the outside of everyone in turn 1.
Next trackday is in 2 weeks at Putnam.
yeah, thats exactly what I took away from that vid.Big Brain Bradley wrote: ↑Tue Aug 21, 2018 3:25 pmthats fastAcid666 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 21, 2018 2:48 pm This has got to be hands down the fastest acceleration I think I've ever seen from on board video of an autocross run. This car is ridiculous. Original 1 owner Shelby Cobra with 800+hp engine. Read the comments of what's in it..
And here's the results from that event. https://www.good-guys.com/dmn-ac-18
that course is irresponsibility dangerous
good guys is just a bunch of old guys in hot rods jerking eachother off for the most part.
And holy hell that car is fast. I had to stop and rewatch I thought some parts were fast forwarded.
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Orange and black is for sale. It has all of the power on command, and the brakes to match.Acid666 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 21, 2018 3:43 pmThe orange on black looks total bad ass. I considered a couple of bikes like that but never pulled the trigger. I'd consider a bad ass supermoto for the streets around here if as opposed to the Vrod, since I'd only really ride in town. Having power on demand on a bike that's agile would be fun.4zilch wrote: ↑Sat Jun 30, 2018 6:34 am Finally got to my first track day of the year with a group of about 60 riders at a private event 3-day at held annually at Grattan Raceway in MI.
I was as comfortable as I’ve ever been KTM. I ran in the intermediate group and came up to speed quickly. By mid-way through the first day, I getting my knee down in places that I had never been able to in prior trips. The bike felt great and I was able to explore corner entry speed and rear tire grip. By the end of the day, I was easily the quickest in the group. Day two was more of the same and as tire wear became an issue, I began to enjoy letting the rear spin up on corner exit.. several other riders noted how much fun I appeared to be having. The experience has me second guessing selling the KTM.
The Honda was also a lot of fun, though I was running into carb issues while at the track. I’m fairly certain main jet is too big and would load up the engine by the end of the 5/8+ Mile straight. When I’d close the throttle to begin braking into turn 1, the bike would begin bogging and cutting out, I even had the bike momentarily stall while leaned over nearly causing me to low-side. After that I didn’t get it out much for fear of crashing in front of someone and ruining both of our days.
When the bike did run well it was a lot of fun. Passing everyone in the corners, getting passed back on the straights, then riding around the outside of everyone in turn 1.
Next trackday is in 2 weeks at Putnam.
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Love that pic.Husbrandon wrote: ↑Tue Aug 21, 2018 2:38 pm Figured i would join in again now that we are gearing up for track season.
This was at our last trackday, the stripped out civic and I were in a proper 4-5 lap battle having fun when our ape of a friend Wrecky came through the turn in full opposite lock(Abbey was riding along with him).
Video:
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Something different, with more cylinders, but still sounds fantastic.
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no, they do not.
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