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Big Brain Bradley wrote: Tue Nov 06, 2018 10:16 am almost brought a tear to my eye.
Former .governer of Indiana. Miss that guy.
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Pence saved y'all from that reckless libtard.

I still love the idea of a bike, too bad it didn't really work for me.
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troyguitar wrote: Tue Nov 06, 2018 10:28 am
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Former .governer of Indiana. Miss that guy.
:wrong:

Pence saved y'all from that reckless libtard.

I still love the idea of a bike, too bad it didn't really work for me.
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Big Brain Bradley wrote: Tue Nov 06, 2018 10:38 am
troyguitar wrote: Tue Nov 06, 2018 10:28 am :wrong:

Pence saved y'all from that reckless libtard.

I still love the idea of a bike, too bad it didn't really work for me.
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I'm really considering a Ducati Diavel now.

I would appreciate something a bit sportier than my cruiser and more comfortable than a street bike. Additionally the used market is pretty affordable in comparison to a street glide.

Pros, cons, competitors?
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Barnes93cb wrote: Tue Nov 06, 2018 11:05 am I'm really considering a Ducati Diavel now.

I would appreciate something a bit sportier than my cruiser and more comfortable than a street bike. Additionally the used market is pretty affordable in comparison to a street glide.

Pros, cons, competitors?
oh, :hai: barnsey

competetors? I mean pretty much all the big guys have some type of sport tourer competitor.

Honda has ctx700, and ctx 1300? I know yamaha makes one too.

re: ducatti diavel :doit: #anythingbutharley
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Big Brain Bradley wrote: Tue Nov 06, 2018 11:21 am
Barnes93cb wrote: Tue Nov 06, 2018 11:05 am I'm really considering a Ducati Diavel now.

I would appreciate something a bit sportier than my cruiser and more comfortable than a street bike. Additionally the used market is pretty affordable in comparison to a street glide.

Pros, cons, competitors?
oh, :hai: barnsey

competetors? I mean pretty much all the big guys have some type of sport tourer competitor.

Honda has ctx700, and ctx 1300? I know yamaha makes one too.

re: ducatti diavel :doit: #anythingbutharley
I'm not a brand person by any means. Just looking for something comfortable and fun to ride.

Yamaha does have the vstrom. But it weighs a bit more, much larger engine(fuel economy and insurance costs) and doesn't perform to the level of the diavel.

Didn't know Honda had a competitor. Just looked it up. Not really a fan.
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4zilch wrote: Tue Nov 06, 2018 10:00 am https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions ... 37b0f14cf2

Good, positive editorial. The same could be said about car enthusiasts in random corners of the interwebs.
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Barnes93cb wrote: Tue Nov 06, 2018 11:05 am I'm really considering a Ducati Diavel now.

I would appreciate something a bit sportier than my cruiser and more comfortable than a street bike. Additionally the used market is pretty affordable in comparison to a street glide.

Pros, cons, competitors?
There's nothing else really like the Diavel on the market. Good ground clearance, good engine, great brakes, suspension etc. Not much on passenger comfort. In terms of riding position, I find it quite comfortable with a low seat and the pegs underneath you. The reach to the bars could be a bit closer for my preference. Go sit on one, or better yet take one for a spin. Ducati dealers are generally good about demo rides. Used Diavels are significantly cheaper than a street glide, the only downside is the lack of bags, but there's aftermarket solutions available.
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4zilch wrote: Tue Nov 06, 2018 1:22 pm
Barnes93cb wrote: Tue Nov 06, 2018 11:05 am I'm really considering a Ducati Diavel now.

I would appreciate something a bit sportier than my cruiser and more comfortable than a street bike. Additionally the used market is pretty affordable in comparison to a street glide.

Pros, cons, competitors?
Used Diavels are significantly cheaper than a street glide, the only downside is the lack of bags, but there's aftermarket solutions available.
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they can be a great value bike. Esp buying a dealerman demo model.
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:doit:

You wont.
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4zilch wrote: Tue Nov 06, 2018 1:51 pm
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You wont.
im more curious on the discomfort. But If I even go there I will get 2 years of phone calls.
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dubshow wrote: Tue Nov 06, 2018 1:52 pm
4zilch wrote: Tue Nov 06, 2018 1:51 pm

:doit:

You wont.
im more curious on the discomfort. But If I even go there I will get 2 years of phone calls.
Go sit on one? No need to fill out any forms or provide your contact info.
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4zilch wrote: Tue Nov 06, 2018 1:22 pm
Barnes93cb wrote: Tue Nov 06, 2018 11:05 am I'm really considering a Ducati Diavel now.

I would appreciate something a bit sportier than my cruiser and more comfortable than a street bike. Additionally the used market is pretty affordable in comparison to a street glide.

Pros, cons, competitors?
There's nothing else really like the Diavel on the market. Good ground clearance, good engine, great brakes, suspension etc. Not much on passenger comfort. In terms of riding position, I find it quite comfortable with a low seat and the pegs underneath you. The reach to the bars could be a bit closer for my preference. Go sit on one, or better yet take one for a spin. Ducati dealers are generally good about demo rides. Used Diavels are significantly cheaper than a street glide, the only downside is the lack of bags, but there's aftermarket solutions available.
Sounds pretty great. Im also not too concerned about a passenger. I have yet to have one in the two years ive been riding. And im currently single. I have a car if I need to take passengers. My bolt doesnt even have a passenger seat.

Ill have to see if I cant try one out in a few months. The nearest Diavel is 200 miles away from me and the car still needs some work before I drive four hours.
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Barnes93cb wrote: Tue Nov 06, 2018 2:41 pm
4zilch wrote: Tue Nov 06, 2018 1:22 pm

There's nothing else really like the Diavel on the market. Good ground clearance, good engine, great brakes, suspension etc. Not much on passenger comfort. In terms of riding position, I find it quite comfortable with a low seat and the pegs underneath you. The reach to the bars could be a bit closer for my preference. Go sit on one, or better yet take one for a spin. Ducati dealers are generally good about demo rides. Used Diavels are significantly cheaper than a street glide, the only downside is the lack of bags, but there's aftermarket solutions available.
Sounds pretty great. Im also not too concerned about a passenger. I have yet to have one in the two years ive been riding. And im currently single. I have a car if I need to take passengers. My bolt doesnt even have a passenger seat.

Ill have to see if I cant try one out in a few months. The nearest Diavel is 200 miles away from me and the car still needs some work before I drive four hours.
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4zilch wrote: Tue Nov 06, 2018 3:53 pm
Barnes93cb wrote: Tue Nov 06, 2018 2:41 pm

Sounds pretty great. Im also not too concerned about a passenger. I have yet to have one in the two years ive been riding. And im currently single. I have a car if I need to take passengers. My bolt doesnt even have a passenger seat.

Ill have to see if I cant try one out in a few months. The nearest Diavel is 200 miles away from me and the car still needs some work before I drive four hours.
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dubshow wrote: Tue Nov 06, 2018 1:52 pm
4zilch wrote: Tue Nov 06, 2018 1:51 pm

:doit:

You wont.
im more curious on the discomfort. But If I even go there I will get 2 years of phone calls.
Give them Zilch's number.
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dubshow wrote: Tue Nov 06, 2018 1:52 pm

im more curious on the discomfort. But If I even go there I will get 2 years of phone calls.
Give them Zilch's number.
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Differences between the FZ07 and the Diavel?

FZ07 should be cheaper to insure and maintain if I had to guess. Smaller engine and yamaha vs Italian bike.
FX07 will have a significantly lower performance capability. Although it should still be much more enjoyable than my Bolt. I dont think I will need to exceed the 130mph limit on the FZ07.

Both bikes should be fairly comfortable. Both have more upright seating positions than their super bike counterparts. They have higher clearance than my bolt so I should be able to lean more and really enjoy some turns.

Of course I will need to test ride both and see what suits my fancy. But the price point of a FZ07 is even nicer than the Diavel vs HD SG.
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Barnes93cb wrote: Wed Nov 07, 2018 10:40 am Differences between the FZ07 and the Diavel?

FZ07 should be cheaper to insure and maintain if I had to guess. Smaller engine and yamaha vs Italian bike.
FX07 will have a significantly lower performance capability. Although it should still be much more enjoyable than my Bolt. I dont think I will need to exceed the 130mph limit on the FZ07.

Both bikes should be fairly comfortable. Both have more upright seating positions than their super bike counterparts. They have higher clearance than my bolt so I should be able to lean more and really enjoy some turns.

Of course I will need to test ride both and see what suits my fancy. But the price point of a FZ07 is even nicer than the Diavel vs HD SG.
Those are wildly different bikes, in both type/style, performance and cost.

The FZ07 is fantastic. And the new MT model is even cooler. The Diavel is an actual performance cruiser. The yamaha comparison is that big fat Vmax. Which is right in line with pricing.

Straight line, the Diavel is faster but I'd put money anyone with any skill could easily hustle the FZ/MT around the street/corner/track than a Vmax OR Diavel.
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Id buy the new MT 07 in a heart beat if I had a spare $7k and a wife that wouldnt yell at me.

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Dang, both those models dropped 6 YEARS ago..



The vmax is fast man.
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dubshow wrote: Wed Nov 07, 2018 10:47 am
Barnes93cb wrote: Wed Nov 07, 2018 10:40 am Differences between the FZ07 and the Diavel?

FZ07 should be cheaper to insure and maintain if I had to guess. Smaller engine and yamaha vs Italian bike.
FX07 will have a significantly lower performance capability. Although it should still be much more enjoyable than my Bolt. I dont think I will need to exceed the 130mph limit on the FZ07.

Both bikes should be fairly comfortable. Both have more upright seating positions than their super bike counterparts. They have higher clearance than my bolt so I should be able to lean more and really enjoy some turns.

Of course I will need to test ride both and see what suits my fancy. But the price point of a FZ07 is even nicer than the Diavel vs HD SG.
Those are wildly different bikes, in both type/style, performance and cost.

The FZ07 is fantastic. And the new MT model is even cooler. The Diavel is an actual performance cruiser. The yamaha comparison is that big fat Vmax. Which is right in line with pricing.

Straight line, the Diavel is faster but I'd put money anyone with any skill could easily hustle the FZ/MT around the street/corner/track than a Vmax OR Diavel.
Tracking the bikes are much different. Just trying to look at all my options for something a bit more sporty and should still be comfortable.
Im not interested in the Vmax for the diavel competitor. Not a fan of the bike.

Not super worried about straight line. I dont really drag race much and have yet to even top out the short gearing on the miata. At this moment im looking at costs, maintenance, insurance, and driveability.
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Barnes93cb wrote: Wed Nov 07, 2018 11:01 am
dubshow wrote: Wed Nov 07, 2018 10:47 am

Those are wildly different bikes, in both type/style, performance and cost.

The FZ07 is fantastic. And the new MT model is even cooler. The Diavel is an actual performance cruiser. The yamaha comparison is that big fat Vmax. Which is right in line with pricing.

Straight line, the Diavel is faster but I'd put money anyone with any skill could easily hustle the FZ/MT around the street/corner/track than a Vmax OR Diavel.
Tracking the bikes are much different. Just trying to look at all my options for something a bit more sporty and should still be comfortable.
Im not interested in the Vmax for the diavel competitor. Not a fan of the bike.

Not super worried about straight line. I dont really drag race much and have yet to even top out the short gearing on the miata. At this moment im looking at costs, maintenance, insurance, and driveability.
fz07 is way cheaper in all of those. Also, if it handles on a track, that translates to is easy to ride and lighter/nimbler in day to day. Moving a big heavy bike around is a PITA.
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dubshow wrote: Wed Nov 07, 2018 11:02 am
Barnes93cb wrote: Wed Nov 07, 2018 11:01 am

Tracking the bikes are much different. Just trying to look at all my options for something a bit more sporty and should still be comfortable.
Im not interested in the Vmax for the diavel competitor. Not a fan of the bike.

Not super worried about straight line. I dont really drag race much and have yet to even top out the short gearing on the miata. At this moment im looking at costs, maintenance, insurance, and driveability.
fz07 is way cheaper in all of those. Also, if it handles on a track, that translates to is easy to ride and lighter/nimbler in day to day. Moving a big heavy bike around is a PITA.
I ride a 600lb cruiser. Tell me more.

Thats what im thinking about cheaper. I lean towards the cost effectiveness of the FZ. But the looks of the Diavel are pretty impressive.
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