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Melon wrote: Wed Mar 01, 2017 4:06 pm
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Depends on your :narc: tolerance and willingness to light money on fire. The ballz seasons keep corner speeds kinda sorta reasonable-ish and are cheap enough that there is no reason not to light them up at will.
Talking about AutoX primarily, but I never knew a cop to give a ticket for pulling too many G's in the corner.
The DW's were damn good on the road too, but when the car is pushed, having a square set-up to dial out the understeer, and grippy tires to be able to accelerate through the turns and WOT upon exit is just :jimp:
Yeah for autox in a big car like a :poorvette: you need big sticky tarz for it to be any fun.

The problem with that on the street is that you end up having to do triple digits even around corners to get into the fun zone. On the twisties closest to my house, I can pretty much set the cruise control at 65 in a 55 and drive around the tightest corners without touching any pedals using even michelin PSS... it's a snoozefest unless you go way too fast. The ballz seasons, on the other hand, require some effort to keep it at 55.
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With low 400 whp and 410 gears, I'm going to need some damn tahr out back, and it would be :jimp: to be able to rotate them.

And since this is primarily a street car, I don't want it to look stupid. 17's all around are kind of :flaccid:
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maxtdi wrote: Wed Mar 01, 2017 4:13 pm And it's a :poorvette: thread

:gtfo: with your plastic tubs

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Talking about tire size for the weight. Very pertinent.
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But I do like the idea of something that has higher treadwear for slightly limited grip.

https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.js ... mpare1=yes
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Detroit wrote: Wed Mar 01, 2017 4:17 pm
maxtdi wrote: Wed Mar 01, 2017 4:13 pm And it's a :poorvette: thread

:gtfo: with your plastic tubs

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Talking about tire size for the weight. Very pertinent.
Yes but this thread is about cars that are undertired corvettes aren't
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maxtdi wrote: Wed Mar 01, 2017 4:13 pm And it's a :poorvette: thread

:gtfo: with your plastic tubs

:lolgasm:
Dumb thread is dumb. Go buy a square setup and quit :baby:
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Melon wrote: Wed Mar 01, 2017 4:20 pm
maxtdi wrote: Wed Mar 01, 2017 4:13 pm And it's a :poorvette: thread

:gtfo: with your plastic tubs

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Dumb thread is dumb. Go buy a square setup and quit :baby:
Why post in it ? :gtfo: if you think it's dumb
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troyguitar wrote: Wed Mar 01, 2017 4:14 pm
Melon wrote: Wed Mar 01, 2017 4:06 pm

Talking about AutoX primarily, but I never knew a cop to give a ticket for pulling too many G's in the corner.
The DW's were damn good on the road too, but when the car is pushed, having a square set-up to dial out the understeer, and grippy tires to be able to accelerate through the turns and WOT upon exit is just :jimp:
Yeah for autox in a big car like a :poorvette: you need big sticky tarz for it to be any fun.

The problem with that on the street is that you end up having to do triple digits even around corners to get into the fun zone. On the twisties closest to my house, I can pretty much set the cruise control at 65 in a 55 and drive around the tightest corners without touching any pedals using even michelin PSS... it's a snoozefest unless you go way too fast. The ballz seasons, on the other hand, require some effort to keep it at 55.
False.

Also, what I consider 'fun' is not the same as what you do. I find the joys in simply driving my car, and while I do enjoy driving it hard, I enjoy just cruising around in it too, because driving is a fun activity for me. Also, taking a turn @ triple digit speeds is something I've never done.
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maxtdi wrote: Wed Mar 01, 2017 4:21 pm
Melon wrote: Wed Mar 01, 2017 4:20 pm

Dumb thread is dumb. Go buy a square setup and quit :baby:
Why post in it ? :gtfo: if you think it's dumb
I'm bored.

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Seriously doe, go buy a square set-up.
I don't disagree that the smaller fronts hinder the performance of your car.
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maxtdi wrote: Wed Mar 01, 2017 4:19 pm
Detroit wrote: Wed Mar 01, 2017 4:17 pm

Talking about tire size for the weight. Very pertinent.
Yes but this thread is about cars that are undertired corvettes aren't
Mine will be.
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Melon wrote: Wed Mar 01, 2017 4:20 pm
maxtdi wrote: Wed Mar 01, 2017 4:13 pm And it's a :poorvette: thread

:gtfo: with your plastic tubs

:lolgasm:
Dumb thread is dumb. Go buy a square setup and quit :baby:
:dat:
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Melon wrote: Wed Mar 01, 2017 4:22 pm
troyguitar wrote: Wed Mar 01, 2017 4:14 pm

Yeah for autox in a big car like a :poorvette: you need big sticky tarz for it to be any fun.

The problem with that on the street is that you end up having to do triple digits even around corners to get into the fun zone. On the twisties closest to my house, I can pretty much set the cruise control at 65 in a 55 and drive around the tightest corners without touching any pedals using even michelin PSS... it's a snoozefest unless you go way too fast. The ballz seasons, on the other hand, require some effort to keep it at 55.
False.

Also, what I consider 'fun' is not the same as what you do. I find the joys in simply driving my car, and while I do enjoy driving it hard, I enjoy just cruising around in it too, because driving is a fun activity for me. Also, taking a turn @ triple digit speeds is something I've never done.
:dat:

Though, I have taken some marked 45 cloverleafs around 80.
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I take that back, this thread does deliver on tire discussion which is relevant.

Will this thread become the "Tire thread of DFD" :iono:
It has potential doe.
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Melon wrote: Wed Mar 01, 2017 4:22 pm
maxtdi wrote: Wed Mar 01, 2017 4:21 pm
Why post in it ? :gtfo: if you think it's dumb
I'm bored.

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Seriously doe, go buy a square set-up.
I don't disagree that the smaller fronts hinder the performance of your car.
:(
Mang that was the whole point I was trying to make and that it seems like it is an industry problem... not just isolated to one brand or one type of car.

I :plac: a lot... so I'm going to try and be somewhat reasonable and not :troywax: on modz. I'll have a new car in 52 weeks or less
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Detroit wrote: Wed Mar 01, 2017 4:23 pm
maxtdi wrote: Wed Mar 01, 2017 4:19 pm

Yes but this thread is about cars that are undertired corvettes aren't
Mine will be.
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Melon wrote: Wed Mar 01, 2017 4:24 pm I take that back, this thread does deliver on tire discussion which is relevant.

Will this thread become the "Tire thread of DFD" :iono:
It has potential doe.
Let's just make it that. It's my goal.
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Melon wrote: Wed Mar 01, 2017 4:24 pm I take that back, this thread does deliver on tire discussion which is relevant.

Will this thread become the "Tire thread of DFD" :iono:
It has potential doe.
I'll go ahead and start the oil thread. :trollface:
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maxtdi wrote: Wed Mar 01, 2017 4:24 pm
Melon wrote: Wed Mar 01, 2017 4:22 pm

I'm bored.

:trollface:

Seriously doe, go buy a square set-up.
I don't disagree that the smaller fronts hinder the performance of your car.
:(
Mang that was the whole point I was trying to make and that it seems like it is an industry problem... not just isolated to one brand or one type of car.

I :plac: a lot... so I'm going to try and be somewhat reasonable and not :troywax: on modz. I'll have a new car in 52 weeks or less
It's not a "problem", it's basically mandated by CAFE.
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Melon wrote: Wed Mar 01, 2017 4:24 pm I take that back, this thread does deliver on tire discussion which is relevant.

Will this thread become the "Tire thread of DFD" :iono:
It has potential doe.
Yup and what the appropriate tire size should be in a given vehicle.

I'll start an m sport should be 255fr /275 rear to keep some understeer in line for :derp: s
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maxtdi wrote: Wed Mar 01, 2017 4:24 pm
Melon wrote: Wed Mar 01, 2017 4:22 pm

I'm bored.

:trollface:

Seriously doe, go buy a square set-up.
I don't disagree that the smaller fronts hinder the performance of your car.
:(
Mang that was the whole point I was trying to make and that it seems like it is an industry problem... not just isolated to one brand or one type of car.

I :plac: a lot... so I'm going to try and be somewhat reasonable and not :troywax: on modz. I'll have a new car in 52 weeks or less
Get some wheels on the cheap.
As others have suggested, a rear set and throw them on the front. Probably can be done for $300 a piece.

Driving a lame car suck. Go after the dream Max.
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4zilch wrote: Wed Mar 01, 2017 4:25 pm
Melon wrote: Wed Mar 01, 2017 4:24 pm I take that back, this thread does deliver on tire discussion which is relevant.

Will this thread become the "Tire thread of DFD" :iono:
It has potential doe.
I'll go ahead and start the oil thread. :trollface:
Can that include a catch can discussion or should that be a separate thread?
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4zilch wrote: Wed Mar 01, 2017 4:25 pm
Melon wrote: Wed Mar 01, 2017 4:24 pm I take that back, this thread does deliver on tire discussion which is relevant.

Will this thread become the "Tire thread of DFD" :iono:
It has potential doe.
I'll go ahead and start the oil thread. :trollface:
You weren't around for the great Intercooler debates on Golfmk6.com.

:bruh: that shit got nuts.
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Melon wrote: Wed Mar 01, 2017 4:25 pm
Detroit wrote: Wed Mar 01, 2017 4:23 pm
Mine will be.
When you can leave a black mark from the exit of one corner to the entrance of another, you have enough horsepower.
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Apex wrote: Wed Mar 01, 2017 4:28 pm
Melon wrote: Wed Mar 01, 2017 4:25 pm

When you can leave a black mark from the exit of one corner to the entrance of another, you have enough horsepower.
-Chinese Proverb.
:like:
:dat:
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maxtdi wrote: Wed Mar 01, 2017 4:24 pm
Melon wrote: Wed Mar 01, 2017 4:22 pm

I'm bored.

:trollface:

Seriously doe, go buy a square set-up.
I don't disagree that the smaller fronts hinder the performance of your car.
:(
Mang that was the whole point I was trying to make and that it seems like it is an industry problem... not just isolated to one brand or one type of car.

I :plac: a lot... so I'm going to try and be somewhat reasonable and not :troywax: on modz. I'll have a new car in 52 weeks or less
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Don't spend any money... just swap your wheels front to back. Maybe spend $25 on a pair of thin spacers for the back. Problem solved.
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