List of under-tired "performance/sports" cars :triggered:

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maxtdi wrote: Wed Mar 01, 2017 3:34 pm
Melon wrote: Wed Mar 01, 2017 3:31 pm Space Shuttle:
44.5x16.0-21 Tire
Over 37,000,000 Hp
Not a car but nice try
True, but once she's cruising, the ride is the smoothest you'll ever feel.
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Melon wrote: Wed Mar 01, 2017 3:38 pm
maxtdi wrote: Wed Mar 01, 2017 3:34 pm

Not a car but nice try
True, but once she's cruising, the ride is the smoothest you'll ever feel.
You've been ? :impressive:
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maxtdi wrote: Wed Mar 01, 2017 3:41 pm
Melon wrote: Wed Mar 01, 2017 3:38 pm

True, but once she's cruising, the ride is the smoothest you'll ever feel.
You've been ? :impressive:
You haven't?
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Desertbreh wrote: Wed Mar 01, 2017 1:46 pm
maxtdi wrote: Wed Mar 01, 2017 1:09 pm :triggered:

If sporty driving is your thing bear in mind the OEM purposefully FUCKED you with these cars to upsell you to the next level up. JohnnyP gave me the inspiration for this thread.

First and foremost I nominate my own
BMW 335i M sport 225 front 255 rear
BMW 235i M sport 225 front 245 rear (dafuq) even worse than mine
BMW 135is 215 front 245 rear
BMW M3 (E46) 225 front 255 rear
BMW Z4 35is 225 front 245 rear

Audi S4 245s all around (same as a 500lb lighter golf R)
Audi S3 225s all around

Lexus RC350 F sport 235 up front
Lexus IS350 F sport 225 up front

Mercedes C43 amg 225 front 245 rear

Dodge Charger/Challenger R/T 245 all around
Chrysler 300S V8 245 all around

Ford Mustang GT base 235s all around

Alfa Giulia Quadrafuglio 245s front and 285 rear

Chevy SS 245s up front and 275 rear


https://www.edmunds.com/ford/mustang/20 ... money.html
This article perfectly onlines how much decent tires are WORTH... around turns.

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Let me know if I missed any :gay:
I am amused that you will not let this go. Maybe I should try a 325 square setup on the GS?
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Johnny_P wrote: Wed Mar 01, 2017 3:29 pm
NeonJonny wrote: Wed Mar 01, 2017 2:53 pm Any fast dodge has ever sold besides the viper, really. The daytona, srt4, neon acr, anyone?
Width isnt everything. Height is just as important. Not pointless 19s or 20s. an actual aspect ratio.
I agree with the thread but manufacturers need to draw a line somewhere. 90% of people buy aftermarket wheels anyway? From what you all tell me i wouldn't want bmw wheels anyway!
Yes cars get heavier. Wider tires are only a bandaid for that.
Hellcats are under tired af. 707 hp on a 275 tire.
I said anything except the viper. BUT YES....

driving fat tires in the rain is scary. Buy all seasons? No, what's the point if a summer tire will hand an all season its ass even if the all season is Xmm wider?
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I drove 265 up front and 315 out back in my vette with no issues rain or shine for 2 years
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NeonJonny wrote: Wed Mar 01, 2017 3:46 pm
Johnny_P wrote: Wed Mar 01, 2017 3:29 pm

Hellcats are under tired af. 707 hp on a 275 tire.
I said anything except the viper. BUT YES....

driving fat tires in the rain is scary. Buy all seasons? No, what's the point if a summer tire will hand an all season its ass even if the all season is Xmm wider?
A 315 isn't fat on a 4500 lb behemoth. That's like a 210 on a regular 3000 lb car. A stock FRS has less hydroplaning resistance than a Hellcat on 315s.
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Pretty sure I'm going to run 295's square on :eeyore:
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3,2XX lbs, should have an acceptable tire to weight ratio.
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Detroit wrote: Wed Mar 01, 2017 3:50 pm 3,2XX lbs, should have an acceptable tire to weight ratio.
No you should run 245 as stock. You will ruin steering hydroplane and gain nothing from going wider
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maxtdi wrote: Wed Mar 01, 2017 3:51 pm
Detroit wrote: Wed Mar 01, 2017 3:50 pm 3,2XX lbs, should have an acceptable tire to weight ratio.
No you should run 245 as stock. You will ruin steering hydroplane and gain nothing from going wider
:wat:

There was a dude on the gold chainz forum that claimed his car was "undrivable" with 295's up front. :lolol:
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The speed at which a tire hydroplanes is a function of water depth, vehicle speed, vehicle weight, tire width, tread depth and tread design. It depends on how much water has to be removed, how much weight is pressing down on the tires and how efficient the tread design is at evacuating water. While deeper water, higher speeds, lighter vehicles, wider tires, less tread depth and less efficient tread designs will cause tires to hydroplane at lower speeds; all tires will be forced to hydroplane at some speed.

As a rule, tread design affects hydroplaning resistance at high speeds and in deep water. Tread compound affects wet traction at lower speeds or in shallow water.

https://www.tirerack.com/wheels/tech/te ... ?techid=16
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Detroit wrote: Wed Mar 01, 2017 3:52 pm
maxtdi wrote: Wed Mar 01, 2017 3:51 pm

No you should run 245 as stock. You will ruin steering hydroplane and gain nothing from going wider
:wat:

There was a dude on the gold chainz forum that claimed his car was "undrivable" with 295's up front. :lolol:
Just quoting the trolling in this thread.
295s would be insane in the C5.
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Detroit wrote: Wed Mar 01, 2017 3:52 pm
maxtdi wrote: Wed Mar 01, 2017 3:51 pm

No you should run 245 as stock. You will ruin steering hydroplane and gain nothing from going wider
:wat:

There was a dude on the gold chainz forum that claimed his car was "undrivable" with 295's up front. :lolol:
:derp:

FWIW I'm firmly in the camp that 275 square (or even less, really) is perfect on the :poorvette: for street use. The 275 all seasons offer a great amount of fun and cost $500 a set.
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Johnny_P wrote: Wed Mar 01, 2017 3:29 pm
NeonJonny wrote: Wed Mar 01, 2017 2:53 pm Any fast dodge has ever sold besides the viper, really. The daytona, srt4, neon acr, anyone?
Width isnt everything. Height is just as important. Not pointless 19s or 20s. an actual aspect ratio.
I agree with the thread but manufacturers need to draw a line somewhere. 90% of people buy aftermarket wheels anyway? From what you all tell me i wouldn't want bmw wheels anyway!
Yes cars get heavier. Wider tires are only a bandaid for that.
Hellcats are under tired af. 707 hp on a 275 tire.
What's even more crazy is that you can get an all-season tire on the Hellcat. 707hp on a 275 rear all-season is :ludacris:
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troyguitar wrote: Wed Mar 01, 2017 3:55 pm
Detroit wrote: Wed Mar 01, 2017 3:52 pm

:wat:

There was a dude on the gold chainz forum that claimed his car was "undrivable" with 295's up front. :lolol:
:derp:

FWIW I'm firmly in the camp that 275 square (or even less, really) is perfect on the :poorvette: for street use. The 275 all seasons offer a great amount of fun and cost $500 a set.
275 Re-71R's are a riot.
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Detroit wrote: Wed Mar 01, 2017 3:52 pm
maxtdi wrote: Wed Mar 01, 2017 3:51 pm

No you should run 245 as stock. You will ruin steering hydroplane and gain nothing from going wider
:wat:

There was a dude on the gold chainz forum that claimed his car was "undrivable" with 295's up front. :lolol:
What a :pussy:
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Biggest I'd go would be 305 square on the C5.
That would just be nuts with a really sticky tar.
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Gberg2119 wrote: Wed Mar 01, 2017 3:55 pm
Johnny_P wrote: Wed Mar 01, 2017 3:29 pm

Hellcats are under tired af. 707 hp on a 275 tire.
What's even more crazy is that you can get an all-season tire on the Hellcat. 707hp on a 275 rear all-season is :ludacris:
Which is why most ppl can't drive em for shit. The equivalent is k04 on a gti and just blasting the tires off
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Melon wrote: Wed Mar 01, 2017 4:01 pm Biggest I'd go would be 305 square on the C5.
That would just be nuts with a really sticky tar.
No you want 245s because obviously grip doesn't matter
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Melon wrote: Wed Mar 01, 2017 3:56 pm
troyguitar wrote: Wed Mar 01, 2017 3:55 pm

:derp:

FWIW I'm firmly in the camp that 275 square (or even less, really) is perfect on the :poorvette: for street use. The 275 all seasons offer a great amount of fun and cost $500 a set.
275 Re-71R's are a riot.
Depends on your :narc: tolerance and willingness to light money on fire. The ballz seasons keep corner speeds kinda sorta reasonable-ish and are cheap enough that there is no reason not to light them up at will.
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maxtdi wrote: Wed Mar 01, 2017 4:02 pm
Melon wrote: Wed Mar 01, 2017 4:01 pm Biggest I'd go would be 305 square on the C5.
That would just be nuts with a really sticky tar.
No you want 245s because obviously grip doesn't matter
I did toy with the idea of putting the old Corolla tires (185 Uniroyal Tiger Paw) on the Miata.
Would have been my own Caterham 180
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Melon wrote: Wed Mar 01, 2017 3:56 pm
troyguitar wrote: Wed Mar 01, 2017 3:55 pm

:derp:

FWIW I'm firmly in the camp that 275 square (or even less, really) is perfect on the :poorvette: for street use. The 275 all seasons offer a great amount of fun and cost $500 a set.
275 Re-71R's are a riot.
I need dis for my car :megusta: handling will be :mindblown: with all that downforce from the wing on those sticky tars
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troyguitar wrote: Wed Mar 01, 2017 4:05 pm
Melon wrote: Wed Mar 01, 2017 3:56 pm

275 Re-71R's are a riot.
Depends on your :narc: tolerance and willingness to light money on fire. The ballz seasons keep corner speeds kinda sorta reasonable-ish and are cheap enough that there is no reason not to light them up at will.
Talking about AutoX primarily, but I never knew a cop to give a ticket for pulling too many G's in the corner.
The DW's were damn good on the road too, but when the car is pushed, having a square set-up to dial out the understeer, and grippy tires to be able to accelerate through the turns and WOT upon exit is just :jimp:
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And it's a :poorvette: thread

:gtfo: with your plastic tubs

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