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Dude I don’t get it ... your truck is better, unless you want an automatic at which point you should probably go Colorado.
Oh I'm not getting one. I won't buy a Ford.

But I'm curious to see how well that 2.3T does in that truck.
I'm sure it'll be quite adequate for 60k miles.
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Oh I'm not getting one. I won't buy a Ford.

But I'm curious to see how well that 2.3T does in that truck.
I'm sure it'll be quite adequate for 60k miles.
:lolol:

Knowing Ford... ah-yup.
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I just don't see the value in the small displacement turbro engines in a :truk: for longevity. I'm sure the power and torque is fine, but I'd rather have an NA V6 or better 8, personally.
For longevity, not really sure they'll last either. I'm keeping an eye on the one in the twins though for a potential future purchase if I'm able to get to a point where I'm towing more often. For now though, a NA gas motor is really the way to go in these size trucks, especially when they're paired with an 8spd or 10spd trans.

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I just don't see the value in the small displacement turbro engines in a :truk: for longevity. I'm sure the power and torque is fine, but I'd rather have an NA V6 or better 8, personally.
For longevity, not really sure they'll last either. I'm keeping an eye on the one in the twins though for a potential future purchase if I'm able to get to a point where I'm towing more often. For now though, a NA gas motor is really the way to go in these size trucks, especially when they're paired with an 8spd or 10spd trans.
Ford seems to have figured out how to make turbos work on the F150s so why not the Ranger. Given that these trucks aren't used for towing as often, I think it's a worthwhile exercise.
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Fri Feb 16, 2018 10:37 pm

Zillon wrote:
Fri Feb 16, 2018 10:35 pm
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For longevity, not really sure they'll last either. I'm keeping an eye on the one in the twins though for a potential future purchase if I'm able to get to a point where I'm towing more often. For now though, a NA gas motor is really the way to go in these size trucks, especially when they're paired with an 8spd or 10spd trans.
Ford seems to have figured out how to make turbos work on the F150s so why not the Ranger. Given that these trucks aren't used for towing as often, I think it's a worthwhile exercise.
Have they though? What's the oldest 2.7 at these days?
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Fri Feb 16, 2018 10:35 pm
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For longevity, not really sure they'll last either. I'm keeping an eye on the one in the twins though for a potential future purchase if I'm able to get to a point where I'm towing more often. For now though, a NA gas motor is really the way to go in these size trucks, especially when they're paired with an 8spd or 10spd trans.
Ford seems to have figured out how to make turbos work on the F150s so why not the Ranger. Given that these trucks aren't used for towing as often, I think it's a worthwhile exercise.
We'll see I guess. I haven't been paying super close attention lately since I'm gonna be keeping the Colorado for awhile still. As it gets closer to time to replace it is when I'll really dig into the market again and see just what's out there.

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The car show had one new style Chevy Silverbuhdoe, but it was all chromed out which to me looks :gag: in most applications so the only trucks i found interesting were the Tacoma in smurf bloo with a decent offroad package and gnarly tars and of course the ZR2. Some interesting roll bar on the ZR2, not sure if @detroit had this thing on the drafting table and what he thinks. I still love the metallic green even if it's a bit brown-ish IRLImageImageImage

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Ford seems to have figured out how to make turbos work on the F150s so why not the Ranger. Given that these trucks aren't used for towing as often, I think it's a worthwhile exercise.
Have they though? What's the oldest 2.7 at these days?
3.5TT has been around in multiple vehicles since what, 2011?
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Sat Feb 17, 2018 8:39 am

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Have they though? What's the oldest 2.7 at these days?
3.5TT has been around in multiple vehicles since what, 2011?
1.6 tiny turbo has held up fine for 70k miles and towing a couple motorcycles around.

Oils, lube systems, and fuel systems are better. Cooling systems are nearly as good, but seem to be the weak point of tiny turbos when they’re pushed.

So I could see one of these having reliability concerns if it’s life is spent towing shit, but as a DD with an occasional load in the back or an occasional trailer, it’ll be fine.
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The car show had one new style Chevy Silverbuhdoe, but it was all chromed out which to me looks :gag: in most applications so the only trucks i found interesting were the Tacoma in smurf bloo with a decent offroad package and gnarly tars and of course the ZR2. Some interesting roll bar on the ZR2, not sure if @detroit had this thing on the drafting table and what he thinks. I still love the metallic green even if it's a bit brown-ish IRLImageImageImage
I inherited that sport bar when I took over bedazzling a few years ago. It's an overpriced light holder, but it does look cool. There's a ZR2 special edition running around that has ZR2 cutout on the sides instead of Colorado. That was my idea. It was free to implement and people go :triggered: over it. Surprised they didn't put that one on.
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And the green is more gray/brown than green. It's been a very popular color, but I wish it was more green, personally. But I prefer actual colors.

That said, the majority if ZR2s I wheel with in Michigan have this green, but a few of the guys said they would have bought Blurple like on my truck, they just didn't know that it existed. My truck still gets random compliments all the time.
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Sat Feb 17, 2018 12:18 pm
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Fri Feb 16, 2018 11:28 pm
The car show had one new style Chevy Silverbuhdoe, but it was all chromed out which to me looks :gag: in most applications so the only trucks i found interesting were the Tacoma in smurf bloo with a decent offroad package and gnarly tars and of course the ZR2. Some interesting roll bar on the ZR2, not sure if @detroit had this thing on the drafting table and what he thinks. I still love the metallic green even if it's a bit brown-ish IRLImageImageImage
I inherited that sport bar when I took over bedazzling a few years ago. It's an overpriced light holder, but it does look cool. There's a ZR2 special edition running around that has ZR2 cutout on the sides instead of Colorado. That was my idea. It was free to implement and people go :triggered: over it. Surprised they didn't put that one on.
I don't get the point of those side covers.... care to educate me? To me, they look like just another way to get people to pay for another thing that says the model name of the car...

It's like seeing a Corvette with all the badging still on that then has an exhaust plate that says Corvette, and a plate frame that says Corvette, and a window sticker that says Corvette..... Yeah, I get it... I didn't need to be bombarded with 80 logos.

So these have any actual benefits?
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I inherited that sport bar when I took over bedazzling a few years ago. It's an overpriced light holder, but it does look cool. There's a ZR2 special edition running around that has ZR2 cutout on the sides instead of Colorado. That was my idea. It was free to implement and people go :triggered: over it. Surprised they didn't put that one on.
I don't get the point of those side covers.... care to educate me? To me, they look like just another way to get people to pay for another thing that says the model name of the car...

It's like seeing a Corvette with all the badging still on that then has an exhaust plate that says Corvette, and a plate frame that says Corvette, and a window sticker that says Corvette..... Yeah, I get it... I didn't need to be bombarded with 80 logos.

So these have any actual benefits?
They all come with those panels. The design guys won't let me sell one that's just the bars...they think it looks terrible. I don't, but in the process of releasing a part, design needs to sign off on it or it won't be released for sale. I've even mocked trucks up without them, and I still got shot down.

That said, customers love the brand there... especially the ZR2 one. I guess as long as it sells. :iono: I think we'd sell more without the panels, but I lost that battle.

I'm glad to be out if bedazzling.
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I don't get the point of those side covers.... care to educate me? To me, they look like just another way to get people to pay for another thing that says the model name of the car...

It's like seeing a Corvette with all the badging still on that then has an exhaust plate that says Corvette, and a plate frame that says Corvette, and a window sticker that says Corvette..... Yeah, I get it... I didn't need to be bombarded with 80 logos.

So these have any actual benefits?
They all come with those panels. The design guys won't let me sell one that's just the bars...they think it looks terrible. I don't, but in the process of releasing a part, design needs to sign off on it or it won't be released for sale. I've even mocked trucks up without them, and I still got shot down.

That said, customers love the brand there... especially the ZR2 one. I guess as long as it sells. :iono: I think we'd sell more without the panels, but I lost that battle.

I'm glad to be out if bedazzling.
:notsure:

Would look so much better with just the tubular structure.
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Zillon wrote:
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They all come with those panels. The design guys won't let me sell one that's just the bars...they think it looks terrible. I don't, but in the process of releasing a part, design needs to sign off on it or it won't be released for sale. I've even mocked trucks up without them, and I still got shot down.

That said, customers love the brand there... especially the ZR2 one. I guess as long as it sells. :iono: I think we'd sell more without the panels, but I lost that battle.

I'm glad to be out if bedazzling.
:notsure:

Would look so much better with just the tubular structure.
:dat:

I would probably buy one if I was getting a Colorado if it didn't have the side plates or the holes where the side plates mount. Marketing / Design team fails me.
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:notsure:

Would look so much better with just the tubular structure.
:dat:

I would probably buy one if I was getting a Colorado if it didn't have the side plates or the holes where the side plates mount. Marketing / Design team fails me.
Looks like it just unbolts, doe.
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:dat:

I would probably buy one if I was getting a Colorado if it didn't have the side plates or the holes where the side plates mount. Marketing / Design team fails me.
Looks like it just unbolts, doe.
But like I said...... Holes...
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:notsure:

Would look so much better with just the tubular structure.
:dat:

I would probably buy one if I was getting a Colorado if it didn't have the side plates or the holes where the side plates mount. Marketing / Design team fails me.
Marketing was on your side. Design wasn't.
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Took the truck up to Elk Mountain for some skiing this weekend
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Took the truck up to Elk Mountain for some skiing this weekend
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Looks good. I really do like that black grille. So much better than stock.

How was Elk?

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Looks good. I really do like that black grille. So much better than stock.

How was Elk?
Yeah, I still want to get the TRD Pro grill but this is a good place holder. May be coming soon now that there are knock off ones available. Elk was awesome, it's definitely my favorite in eastern PA. Surprisingly not too crowded for a holiday weekend. Plus I got to :stig: in the snow storm on the way home.

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Looks good. I really do like that black grille. So much better than stock.

How was Elk?
Yeah, I still want to get the TRD Pro grill but this is a good place holder. May be coming soon now that there are knock off ones available. Elk was awesome, it's definitely my favorite in eastern PA. Surprisingly not too crowded for a holiday weekend. Plus I got to :stig: in the snow storm on the way home.
Always had a good time skiing that mountain. Far fewer :derp: 's sitting on the slopes on their snowboards. Blue is :disgust: for that.

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Bloo :truk: looks good!

I have never been to Elk, I should change that at some point.

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Bloo :truk: looks good!

I have never been to Elk, I should change that at some point.
Its a bit of a hike but always good skiing. Worst part of it is making the drive home when you're tired af from skiing all day.

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Yeah, I still want to get the TRD Pro grill but this is a good place holder. May be coming soon now that there are knock off ones available. Elk was awesome, it's definitely my favorite in eastern PA. Surprisingly not too crowded for a holiday weekend. Plus I got to :stig: in the snow storm on the way home.
Always had a good time skiing that mountain. Far fewer :derp: 's sitting on the slopes on their snowboards. Blue is :disgust: for that.
Yep Blue is awful. I think cause its so close for out of staters to go to plus they usually have the terrain park open so tons of snow boarders. Plus too many middle schoolers. It's 10 mins away and I hardly go. $30 for 4-10 Sunday nights is about the only time I'll head there

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