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max225 wrote: Tue Oct 20, 2020 11:33 am
Detroit wrote: Tue Oct 20, 2020 11:29 am
The TuRD Bro should hold that value :doe:

Also, don't discount the moran OEM engineers. I'm not sure you can just slap the :fancy: shocks on a lower level truck and have it ride the same. There's a lot that usually goes into suspension tuning.
The fronts are a unit. Springs and shocks in one. The rears are just shocks, question is around Leafsprings. Some say they are the same others say they are different.

So I already reached out to the :dillerman: last night (local) to see if they are at sticker, website said they were. Waiting on the “market adjustment” reply.

FYI I contacted about 12 dealers in 4 states so far. When looking at the :manuel:
9 were “reserved” the other 3 had markup ranging from $3000-5000
Oh :notbad: on the suspension. You probably could slap them on a lower trim and get a pretty decent result. Rear springs aren't quite as critical.
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Detroit wrote: Tue Oct 20, 2020 11:35 am
max225 wrote: Tue Oct 20, 2020 11:33 am
The fronts are a unit. Springs and shocks in one. The rears are just shocks, question is around Leafsprings. Some say they are the same others say they are different.

So I already reached out to the :dillerman: last night (local) to see if they are at sticker, website said they were. Waiting on the “market adjustment” reply.

FYI I contacted about 12 dealers in 4 states so far. When looking at the :manuel:
9 were “reserved” the other 3 had markup ranging from $3000-5000
Oh :notbad: on the suspension. You probably could slap them on a lower trim and get a pretty decent result. Rear springs aren't quite as critical.
So now the question becomes between those two. Which one would you pick ? I’m torn... between fiscal responsibility, and a desire to do :fullretard: shit lol
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max225 wrote: Tue Oct 20, 2020 11:22 am
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[user not found] is still with us even after 2 days of driving the most seppuku inducing transmission in automotive history. That's a significant fact.
Downside - more boring, $2750 more, less exclusive
Upside - easier to get, better off road, more relaxing
It would also be one more wallet's vote cast towards justifying the death of :manuel:
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max225 wrote: Tue Oct 20, 2020 12:00 pm
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Oh :notbad: on the suspension. You probably could slap them on a lower trim and get a pretty decent result. Rear springs aren't quite as critical.
So now the question becomes between those two. Which one would you pick ? I’m torn... between fiscal responsibility, and a desire to do :fullretard: shit lol
I'm on the BRO wagon. Extra cachet on a vehicle that is already bulletproof on depreciation. Makes a boring vehicle less boring. You also get something for your money. This isn't a $9000 "Sport Chrono" clock.
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Deposit placed :hibachi: coming off a truck either today or tomorrow
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Huckleberry wrote: Tue Oct 20, 2020 12:36 pm
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Downside - more boring, $2750 more, less exclusive
Upside - easier to get, better off road, more relaxing
It would also be one more wallet's vote cast towards justifying the death of :manuel:
I was ready and willing to pay full sticker. But Toyota didn’t let me vote with my wallet. I am not paying a dealer to get himself a vacation
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max225 wrote: Tue Oct 20, 2020 12:42 pm
Huckleberry wrote: Tue Oct 20, 2020 12:36 pm

It would also be one more wallet's vote cast towards justifying the death of :manuel:
I was ready and willing to pay full sticker. But Toyota didn’t let me vote with my wallet. I am not paying a dealer to get himself a vacation
I agree.

This is also why I think the transmission take rate that manufacturers use as justification to ax the :manuel: is a skewed metric.
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This is wrapping up the most extensive vehicle search I have ever done.

I have done some weird shit ...

Modded 335i lease I asked to get demodded
Peter Poons (real name) m3 comp
Hurricane stricken mini purchase in Florida
And Turd BRO that topped them all.
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Huckleberry wrote: Tue Oct 20, 2020 12:56 pm
max225 wrote: Tue Oct 20, 2020 12:42 pm

I was ready and willing to pay full sticker. But Toyota didn’t let me vote with my wallet. I am not paying a dealer to get himself a vacation
I agree.

This is also why I think the transmission take rate that manufacturers use as justification to ax the :manuel: is a skewed metric.
When they control the supply side and then complain about take rate.. that seems to make little to no sense. That said I’ve made my peace with the decision. After 6 months of dicking around trying to get my hands on one it is over
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Detroit wrote: Tue Oct 20, 2020 11:33 am
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The mini wasn’t easy to find either. I got it from 2500 miles away. :fullretard: but I love that little car.
I get it. Just saying, :manuel: makes more of a difference in a fun car than a :truk:
:iono: I know I am :wrong: for still preferring a :manuel:

But we have the :jeep: with the "best auto in the biz" and I find it is rather :disgust: and wish it were a :manuel: every time I drive that car. The Tacoma reportedly has one of the worst automatic transmissions sold, I know two people personally who have sold them because it was so bad, their words, not mine.
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That said, it will be a cool as hell :truk: and many don't care.

I am just a :manuel: guy, I find that it's boring to drive autos and I don't really care for it.
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Dealer just called after I left a fucking deposit and told me it was sold... And someone forgot to "update the system".

FUCK :dillerman: scum

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max225 wrote: Tue Oct 20, 2020 1:15 pm Dealer just called after I left a fucking deposit and told me it was sold... And someone forgot to "update the system".

FUCK :dillerman: scum

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:wtf: :disgust:

Sorry man... that is some serious :bs:
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max225 wrote: Tue Oct 20, 2020 1:15 pm Dealer just called after I left a fucking deposit and told me it was sold... And someone forgot to "update the system".

FUCK :dillerman: scum

:rage:
I was just going to congratulate you, damn that sucks dude. It also blows my mind!
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max225 wrote: Tue Oct 20, 2020 1:15 pm Dealer just called after I left a fucking deposit and told me it was sold... And someone forgot to "update the system".

FUCK :dillerman: scum

:rage:
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max225 wrote: Mon May 01, 2023 5:35 pm Yes it's a cool car. But prepare the lube/sawdust.
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I am legit angry. ugh ..
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max225 wrote: Tue Oct 20, 2020 1:42 pm I am legit angry. ugh ..
At this point it would be faster to pull a permit and extend your garage and get a Power Wagon.
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max225 wrote: Mon May 01, 2023 5:35 pm Yes it's a cool car. But prepare the lube/sawdust.
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Wow... Apparently the AZN wasn't having it... called the :dillerman: and bitched all of them out. Good. Fuck those incompetent idiots.

I have email confirmation from LAST night and THIS MORNING that it is available... I MADE A PHONE CALL WITH A FUCKING DEPOSIT. HOW HARD IS THIS JOB?
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Lulz.
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max225 wrote: Tue Oct 20, 2020 1:15 pm Dealer just called after I left a fucking deposit and told me it was sold... And someone forgot to "update the system".

FUCK :dillerman: scum

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From my hassle during the C5 purchase, I feel your anger.
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Huckleberry wrote: Tue Oct 20, 2020 12:56 pm
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I was ready and willing to pay full sticker. But Toyota didn’t let me vote with my wallet. I am not paying a dealer to get himself a vacation
I agree.

This is also why I think the transmission take rate that manufacturers use as justification to ax the :manuel: is a skewed metric.
When the :manuel: was killed in the Colorado, I was in a meeting with a bunch of engineers up to the chief. "Nobody bought it so it's dead" they concluded. "We only offered it in the work truck, we didn't give people that wanted more options a chance" I said AS THE BRAND GUY. "Well, nobody wants manuals anymore, case closed".

The reality is that there's a stupid amount that goes into getting a transmission into a vehicle. The cost is :fullretard: and makes zero sense...so the system is rewarded by reducing powertrain complexity.

I'm sure that's why Toyota controls how many they build...they probably buy all the manual transmissions and parts in batches and build them all at once to keep the flow of parts simple.
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It is 2020... i called 2 places refusing to list the color/price of the vehicles and let them know what my offer is... $5k mark up on another one that is here locally. I told them I'll pick it up at sticker today. Don't think i'll get a call back.
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Detroit wrote: Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:11 pm
Huckleberry wrote: Tue Oct 20, 2020 12:56 pm

I agree.

This is also why I think the transmission take rate that manufacturers use as justification to ax the :manuel: is a skewed metric.
When the :manuel: was killed in the Colorado, I was in a meeting with a bunch of engineers up to the chief. "Nobody bought it so it's dead" they concluded. "We only offered it in the work truck, we didn't give people that wanted more options a chance" I said AS THE BRAND GUY. "Well, nobody wants manuals anymore, case closed".

The reality is that there's a stupid amount that goes into getting a transmission into a vehicle. The cost is :fullretard: and makes zero sense...so the system is rewarded by reducing powertrain complexity.

I'm sure that's why Toyota controls how many they build...they probably buy all the manual transmissions and parts in batches and build them all at once to keep the flow of parts simple.
My dad has a 2016 Colorado with a manual. You can definitely tell zero fucks were given on the truck's design in regards to the transmission. The center console is way too high to make shifting into 2nd, 4th, and 6th comfortable, and the car still has a foot pedal parking brake.
But yeah, you could only buy the truck with a manual in 2WD, with a 4 cylinder, and in the base model or work truck trim. My dad's truck has power door locks and no key fob. Shit's fucking retarded.

And really, the lack of GM, Ford, or FCA offering anything remotely interesting/practical with a :manuel: is one of the reasons VW got my money for my new daily.
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