5th wheel > Class A RV. Dear God if anyone is seriously considering one, please talk to me first.CorvetteWaxer wrote: ↑Wed Dec 05, 2018 12:36 amWas looking at class A motorhomes, but then you really need to trailer a car or Jeep behind if you want to go anywhere when you get to the general area.. with a 5th
wheel you just unhook and drive into town in the truck.
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4zilch wrote: ↑Wed Dec 05, 2018 9:25 am5th wheel > Class A RV. Dear God if anyone is seriously considering one, please talk to me first.CorvetteWaxer wrote: ↑Wed Dec 05, 2018 12:36 am
Was looking at class A motorhomes, but then you really need to trailer a car or Jeep behind if you want to go anywhere when you get to the general area.. with a 5th
wheel you just unhook and drive into town in the truck.
Seriously... if you have time, compose a post with your thoughts.
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We had a few motorhomes used largely for kart racing. They were pretty great for that. If you want to have a highway vehicle, a living space, and toys all with you at once it is hard to do that with anything else. Skip the toys and then Zilchbro is right.
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There's some hybrid 5th wheels that shrink a couple things but put a toy hauler garage in the back. There's even some Class A's with a garage...troyguitar wrote: ↑Wed Dec 05, 2018 9:36 am We had a few motorhomes used largely for kart racing. They were pretty great for that. If you want to have a highway vehicle, a living space, and toys all with you at once it is hard to do that with anything else. Skip the toys and then Zilchbro is right.
The one thing that we noticed all Class A's that are less than $500k are missing is a real oven. They all just use a microwave convection combo. All of the 5th wheels we've been taking notes on have both the microwave and real oven on.. and most are full-size residential appliances.
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You can end up with quite a rig that doesn't fit many places if you go too far. It's usually better to have multiple smaller components than one big all-in-one solution. There are so many varied use cases though that it's tough to really advise anyone without a lot of details on where you are going and what you want to do there.
Even with an infinite budget some rigs are just a PITA once you are off the interstate.
Even with an infinite budget some rigs are just a PITA once you are off the interstate.
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Agreed.troyguitar wrote: ↑Wed Dec 05, 2018 9:51 am You can end up with quite a rig that doesn't fit many places if you go too far. It's usually better to have multiple smaller components than one big all-in-one solution. There are so many varied use cases though that it's tough to really advise anyone without a lot of details on where you are going and what you want to do there.
Even with an infinite budget some rigs are just a PITA once you are off the interstate.
The biggest concern now is the size and where it will be allowed, or even easily fit.
We want this to be a fun thing, not a source of frustration when we get where we're going.
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I spent a portion of my career negotiating settlements and buy-backs of these things on behalf of the Company. The engine was usually only a small part of the customer's issues. If you keep your expectations in line with what you're actually buying, they're ok. And to be fair, I saw the worst of the worst - the majority of owners are pretty happy with their purchases.CorvetteWaxer wrote: ↑Wed Dec 05, 2018 9:33 am
Seriously... if you have time, compose a post with your thoughts.
Remember that you're spending north of 6 figures for a vehicle that's built with particle board and plywood, and like Ikea furniture, the more they get moved, the more they fall apart. Squeaks, rattles, ill fitting doors, latches that need alignment, etc, etc..
More stuff to cause a breakdown, harder to find a tow company, and when you do be prepared to spend at least $2k to get it to a shop, then be prepared to pay a premium for labor because it's an RV and it's probably going to end up in a shop that works on 18-wheelers.
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troyguitar wrote: ↑Wed Dec 05, 2018 9:51 am You can end up with quite a rig that doesn't fit many places if you go too far. It's usually better to have multiple smaller components than one big all-in-one solution. There are so many varied use cases though that it's tough to really advise anyone without a lot of details on where you are going and what you want to do there.
Even with an infinite budget some rigs are just a PITA once you are off the interstate.
As the only published author in a well-known motorcycle publication in the room...
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Do you really need the living space where you drive? A million dollar motorhome buys a lot of hotel nights. Sleeping at the race track when and/or wrenching all night is the only real benefit I've ever seen for motorhomes. People who do woodsy/mountainy camping stuff seem to need a smaller and more off-road capable rig than any fancy motorhome with a full size oven.CorvetteWaxer wrote:Agreed.troyguitar wrote: ↑Wed Dec 05, 2018 9:51 am You can end up with quite a rig that doesn't fit many places if you go too far. It's usually better to have multiple smaller components than one big all-in-one solution. There are so many varied use cases though that it's tough to really advise anyone without a lot of details on where you are going and what you want to do there.
Even with an infinite budget some rigs are just a PITA once you are off the interstate.
The biggest concern now is the size and where it will be allowed, or even easily fit.
We want this to be a fun thing, not a source of frustration when we get where we're going.
Our motorhomes always needed work. It was always something. The only thing worse is a boat.
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The problem is, only some of the hotels we would want to stay in will allow us to bring thetroyguitar wrote: ↑Wed Dec 05, 2018 10:07 amDo you really need the living space where you drive? A million dollar motorhome buys a lot of hotel nights. Sleeping at the race track when and/or wrenching all night is the only real benefit I've ever seen for motorhomes. People who do woodsy/mountainy camping stuff seem to need a smaller and more off-road capable rig than any fancy motorhome with a full size oven.CorvetteWaxer wrote:
Agreed.
The biggest concern now is the size and where it will be allowed, or even easily fit.
We want this to be a fun thing, not a source of frustration when we get where we're going.
Our motorhomes always needed work. It was always something. The only thing worse is a boat.
Looking for something to do a 6-8 week road trip at the longest and 7-10 day trips more frequently.
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I'd try and keep the 5th wheel smaller to keep you in the 1500 class of trucks. Because HD 2500/3500 etc trucks ride like absolute dogshit when they're unloaded. If you can do that then sure go for it.
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Might as well just get one of these and spend the same money...
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A friend of mine owns a 4x4 sprinter. He built a platform bed on the back, threw his bikes underneath the platform, and went off grid for like a month with his wife and 2 kids, lol.CorvetteWaxer wrote: ↑Wed Dec 05, 2018 12:40 pmMight as well just get one of these and spend the same money...
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I think the drawbacks are somewhat obvious now... Either spend a midwest house worth on a class A and watch it depreciate 50k a year or spend 2/3 of the amount on a 80k truck that rides like shit and doesn't fit anywhere+ 130k trailer...CorvetteWaxer wrote: ↑Wed Dec 05, 2018 12:40 pmMight as well just get one of these and spend the same money...
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There are just so many drawbacks around towing a house around, seems like there is no simple solution. Either compromise and go smaller or pick one poison over another. I'd personally probably spend the 50-70k in annual depreciation on luxury hotels/travel around the world vs roughing it in an RV, doggos be damned.
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$50/night to take the dog to the kennel, and she's mostly in a cage all night and part of the day.. nah.. We want her with us. We're talking about doing the entire US in a couple trips and seeing everything we can, including things like all the parks.. Would rather be able to leave her in an A/C and Heated RV when we go anywhere for the day that she can't go.max225 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 05, 2018 12:44 pmI think the drawbacks are somewhat obvious now... Either spend a midwest house worth on a class A and watch it depreciate 50k a year or spend 2/3 of the amount on a 80k truck that rides like shit and doesn't fit anywhere+ 130k trailer...CorvetteWaxer wrote: ↑Wed Dec 05, 2018 12:40 pm
Might as well just get one of these and spend the same money...
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There are just so many drawbacks around towing a house around, seems like there is no simple solution. Either compromise and go smaller or pick one poison over another. I'd personally probably spend the 50-70k in annual depreciation on luxury hotels/travel around the world vs roughing it in an RV, doggos be damned.
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Yea that’s fair. 50 state trip would be grand. I want to do one as well but work, won’t allow me to take the 2-3 months off it would takeCorvetteWaxer wrote: ↑Wed Dec 05, 2018 12:47 pm$50/night to take the dog to the kennel, and she's mostly in a cage all night and part of the day.. nah.. We want her with us. We're talking about doing the entire US in a couple trips and seeing everything we can, including things like all the parks.. Would rather be able to leave her in an A/C and Heated RV when we go anywhere for the day that she can't go.max225 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 05, 2018 12:44 pm
I think the drawbacks are somewhat obvious now... Either spend a midwest house worth on a class A and watch it depreciate 50k a year or spend 2/3 of the amount on a 80k truck that rides like shit and doesn't fit anywhere+ 130k trailer...
There are just so many drawbacks around towing a house around, seems like there is no simple solution. Either compromise and go smaller or pick one poison over another. I'd personally probably spend the 50-70k in annual depreciation on luxury hotels/travel around the world vs roughing it in an RV, doggos be damned.
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max225 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 05, 2018 12:50 pmYea that’s fair. 50 state trip would be grand. I want to do one as well but work, won’t allow me to take the 2-3 months off it would takeCorvetteWaxer wrote: ↑Wed Dec 05, 2018 12:47 pm
$50/night to take the dog to the kennel, and she's mostly in a cage all night and part of the day.. nah.. We want her with us. We're talking about doing the entire US in a couple trips and seeing everything we can, including things like all the parks.. Would rather be able to leave her in an A/C and Heated RV when we go anywhere for the day that she can't go.
And doing it in an RV is probably the best way to do it IMO.
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Would probably be my preference too. An offroady trailer (teardrop or the like) would be fun to do some overlanding with in the west too.
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The Power Wagon has heretofore not been available with the Cummins.CorvetteWaxer wrote: ↑Tue Dec 04, 2018 11:02 pm Something like this might be my next
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And look glorious doing it. But yeah. These are things I'd do with unlimited funds. Not necessarily what are prudent
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