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KYGTIGuy wrote: Mon Dec 10, 2018 5:26 pm
max225 wrote: Mon Dec 10, 2018 4:59 pm

:wat: cramped in a GC? I mean it is a house on wheels when it comes to full sizers...
Compared to a full sized crew cab? Fuck yeah. I could cross my legs naturally sitting behind myself in the RAM.
Yeah the full size trucks are monsters inside compared to the GC. GC, although large, doesn't have the best space utilization and has thick A pillars, leading to a more cramped impression than the truck actually is.

I still like the GC though, it's right size IMO. Maybe a hair long, but I can deal with that. I do think it's showing its age now.
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KYGTIGuy wrote: Mon Dec 10, 2018 5:26 pm
max225 wrote: Mon Dec 10, 2018 4:59 pm

:wat: cramped in a GC? I mean it is a house on wheels when it comes to full sizers...
Compared to a full sized crew cab? Fuck yeah. I could cross my legs naturally sitting behind myself in the RAM.
240" long and 80" wide vehicle compared to a 189" long and 76" vehicle... :science: :math:
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Johnny_P wrote: Mon Dec 10, 2018 5:32 pm
KYGTIGuy wrote: Mon Dec 10, 2018 5:26 pm

Compared to a full sized crew cab? Fuck yeah. I could cross my legs naturally sitting behind myself in the RAM.
Yeah the full size trucks are monsters inside compared to the GC. GC, although large, doesn't have the best space utilization and has thick A pillars, leading to a more cramped impression than the truck actually is.

I still like the GC though, it's right size IMO. Maybe a hair long, but I can deal with that. I do think it's showing its age now.
Diller man told me that we are 2 years out before an update.

He also told me the sport hood on a Ram was functional and not just for show, which is :wrong: so he maybe just full of shit.
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max225 wrote: Mon Dec 10, 2018 5:38 pm
KYGTIGuy wrote: Mon Dec 10, 2018 5:26 pm

Compared to a full sized crew cab? Fuck yeah. I could cross my legs naturally sitting behind myself in the RAM.
240" long and 80" wide vehicle compared to a 189" long and 76" vehicle... :science: :math:
Ram has coilovers in the back too. It's a nice riding truck. I like it.
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KYGTIGuy wrote: Mon Dec 10, 2018 5:53 pm
Johnny_P wrote: Mon Dec 10, 2018 5:32 pm

Yeah the full size trucks are monsters inside compared to the GC. GC, although large, doesn't have the best space utilization and has thick A pillars, leading to a more cramped impression than the truck actually is.

I still like the GC though, it's right size IMO. Maybe a hair long, but I can deal with that. I do think it's showing its age now.
Diller man told me that we are 2 years out before an update.

He also told me the sport hood on a Ram was functional and not just for show, which is :wrong: so he maybe just full of shit.
That sounds about right... 2021 model year is the update year....
http://www.wk2jeeps.com/ Damn this thing came out in 2011..... almost a DECADE ago.
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KYGTIGuy wrote: Mon Dec 10, 2018 5:55 pm
max225 wrote: Mon Dec 10, 2018 5:38 pm

240" long and 80" wide vehicle compared to a 189" long and 76" vehicle... :science: :math:
Ram has coilovers in the back too. It's a nice riding truck. I like it.
Super quiet as well. They are great vehicles, the main issue is size. If you're ok with that aspect it is fine. My buddy DD's his 3.0 Ecodiesel everywhere in cali, and it has been good to him in the last 34k miles and 3 years.
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KYGTIGuy wrote: Mon Dec 10, 2018 5:55 pm
max225 wrote: Mon Dec 10, 2018 5:38 pm

240" long and 80" wide vehicle compared to a 189" long and 76" vehicle... :science: :math:
Ram has coilovers in the back too. It's a nice riding truck. I like it.
Best full size right now IMO
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KYGTIGuy wrote: Mon Dec 10, 2018 5:55 pm
max225 wrote: Mon Dec 10, 2018 5:38 pm

240" long and 80" wide vehicle compared to a 189" long and 76" vehicle... :science: :math:
Ram has coilovers in the back too. It's a nice riding truck. I like it.
If you're not stuck in a tiny downtown existance why not get a full size truck assuming it rides well? They look and ride great.
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Tarspin wrote: Mon Dec 10, 2018 7:21 pm
KYGTIGuy wrote: Mon Dec 10, 2018 5:55 pm

Ram has coilovers in the back too. It's a nice riding truck. I like it.
If you're not stuck in a tiny downtown existance why not get a full size truck assuming it rides well? They look and ride great.

We'll see. I think that's where my head is right now.
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KYGTIGuy wrote: Mon Dec 10, 2018 8:57 pm
Tarspin wrote: Mon Dec 10, 2018 7:21 pm

If you're not stuck in a tiny downtown existance why not get a full size truck assuming it rides well? They look and ride great.

We'll see. I think that's where my head is right now.
:jelly: I'm feeling the itch but can't justify the fuel usage vs my golf. I need a job where i stay close to home.
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Tarspin wrote: Mon Dec 10, 2018 9:27 pm
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We'll see. I think that's where my head is right now.
:jelly: I'm feeling the itch but can't justify the fuel usage vs my golf. I need a job where i stay close to home.
That's part of the apprehension. Ram will cost 10k more than three RAV4 hybrid for fuel at 4$ a gallon over the course of 5 years. That's over $150 a month more in just gas.
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KYGTIGuy wrote:
Tarspin wrote: Mon Dec 10, 2018 9:27 pm :jelly: I'm feeling the itch but can't justify the fuel usage vs my golf. I need a job where i stay close to home.
That's part of the apprehension. Ram will cost 10k more than three RAV4 hybrid for fuel at 4$ a gallon over the course of 5 years. That's over $150 a month more in just gas.
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Gas is free according to Max.
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KYGTIGuy wrote: Tue Dec 11, 2018 7:28 am
Tarspin wrote: Mon Dec 10, 2018 9:27 pm

:jelly: I'm feeling the itch but can't justify the fuel usage vs my golf. I need a job where i stay close to home.
That's part of the apprehension. Ram will cost 10k more than three RAV4 hybrid for fuel at 4$ a gallon over the course of 5 years. That's over $150 a month more in just gas.
This is where I get hung up on the Jeep Wrangler option. Sure they're cool. I'm never going to use the off road capability of one. A Rav will drive better, be more comfy, easier to park, and use half to 1/3 the fuel, and cost $10-15k less while still allowing me to do the amount of "off roading" I'd want.

I just wish they had better engine options. The Wrangler is actually pretty quick, which is something I'd prefer for no real reason.
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The new Ram V6 is supposed to get 20-27mpg. That's not horrible
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I haven't looked at the new Ram in person yet, but I'm getting to be in the same camp of "full-size trucks are too damn big anymore." It seems to be a pretty big camp given how the mid-size market has exploded in the last few years.
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KYGTIGuy wrote: Tue Dec 11, 2018 8:23 am The new Ram V6 is supposed to get 20-27mpg. That's not horrible
Don't rush to believe the published numbers.



Not saying I 100% agree with these guys, but it is interesting to see how much fuel the RAM with the eTorque (hybrid) system used.
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Johnny_P wrote: Tue Dec 11, 2018 7:49 am
KYGTIGuy wrote: Tue Dec 11, 2018 7:28 am

That's part of the apprehension. Ram will cost 10k more than three RAV4 hybrid for fuel at 4$ a gallon over the course of 5 years. That's over $150 a month more in just gas.
This is where I get hung up on the Jeep Wrangler option. Sure they're cool. I'm never going to use the off road capability of one. A Rav will drive better, be more comfy, easier to park, and use half to 1/3 the fuel, and cost $10-15k less while still allowing me to do the amount of "off roading" I'd want.

I just wish they had better engine options. The Wrangler is actually pretty quick, which is something I'd prefer for no real reason.
You drive about 4 miles a day, fuel is essentially free for you. :lol:
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Johnny_P wrote: Tue Dec 11, 2018 7:49 am
KYGTIGuy wrote: Tue Dec 11, 2018 7:28 am

That's part of the apprehension. Ram will cost 10k more than three RAV4 hybrid for fuel at 4$ a gallon over the course of 5 years. That's over $150 a month more in just gas.
This is where I get hung up on the Jeep Wrangler option. Sure they're cool. I'm never going to use the off road capability of one. A Rav will drive better, be more comfy, easier to park, and use half to 1/3 the fuel, and cost $10-15k less while still allowing me to do the amount of "off roading" I'd want.

I just wish they had better engine options. The Wrangler is actually pretty quick, which is something I'd prefer for no real reason.
https://www.motortrend.com/cars/toyota/ ... irst-test/

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max225 wrote: Mon Dec 10, 2018 5:38 pm
KYGTIGuy wrote: Mon Dec 10, 2018 5:26 pm

Compared to a full sized crew cab? Fuck yeah. I could cross my legs naturally sitting behind myself in the RAM.
240" long and 80" wide vehicle compared to a 189" long and 76" vehicle... :science: :math:
4 more inches really goes a LONG way. :hubba:
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Apex wrote: Tue Dec 11, 2018 9:11 am
Johnny_P wrote: Tue Dec 11, 2018 7:49 am

This is where I get hung up on the Jeep Wrangler option. Sure they're cool. I'm never going to use the off road capability of one. A Rav will drive better, be more comfy, easier to park, and use half to 1/3 the fuel, and cost $10-15k less while still allowing me to do the amount of "off roading" I'd want.

I just wish they had better engine options. The Wrangler is actually pretty quick, which is something I'd prefer for no real reason.
You drive about 4 miles a day, fuel is essentially free for you. :lol:
I get an automatic comfort thingy I’ll drive it more. I’d like to tour the US and or Canada in my next car.
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Detroit wrote:
Johnny_P wrote: Tue Dec 11, 2018 7:49 am This is where I get hung up on the Jeep Wrangler option. Sure they're cool. I'm never going to use the off road capability of one. A Rav will drive better, be more comfy, easier to park, and use half to 1/3 the fuel, and cost $10-15k less while still allowing me to do the amount of "off roading" I'd want.

I just wish they had better engine options. The Wrangler is actually pretty quick, which is something I'd prefer for no real reason.
https://www.motortrend.com/cars/toyota/ ... irst-test/

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I want to see numbers on the AWD prius. It's weird that the new Rav is still using the old NiMH batteries.
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troyguitar wrote: Tue Dec 11, 2018 9:43 am
I want to see numbers on the AWD prius. It's weird that the new Rav is still using the old NiMH batteries.
I noticed that! I wonder if the NiMH are super cheap to produce now? Odd to see Toyota still using that tech in brand new applications.
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Detroit wrote:
troyguitar wrote: Tue Dec 11, 2018 9:43 am I want to see numbers on the AWD prius. It's weird that the new Rav is still using the old NiMH batteries.
I noticed that! I wonder if the NiMH are super cheap to produce now? Odd to see Toyota still using that tech in brand new applications.
They use it on the base Prius too, but all of the other trims are lithium ion. It must be a cost thing.
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CorvetteWaxer wrote: Tue Dec 11, 2018 8:44 am
KYGTIGuy wrote: Tue Dec 11, 2018 8:23 am The new Ram V6 is supposed to get 20-27mpg. That's not horrible
Don't rush to believe the published numbers.



Not saying I 100% agree with these guys, but it is interesting to see how much fuel the RAM with the eTorque (hybrid) system used.
I should buy a raptor.
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dubshow wrote: Tue Dec 11, 2018 9:58 am
CorvetteWaxer wrote: Tue Dec 11, 2018 8:44 am

Don't rush to believe the published numbers.



Not saying I 100% agree with these guys, but it is interesting to see how much fuel the RAM with the eTorque (hybrid) system used.
I should buy a raptor.
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