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[Apex]

A WK2 JGC is a suggestion. Plus they can come with brubs.

Even the V6 is perfectly fine in that vehicle. 0-60 in like 8 or so is great and it gets much better fuel mileage.

Not wrong at all with the V6, it’s a solid option. Just pointing out that brubs are available if someone wanted to brub.

[CaleDeRoo]

Even the V6 is perfectly fine in that vehicle. 0-60 in like 8 or so is great and it gets much better fuel mileage.

Perfectly fine versus

We need more and less around here.

My friend has a 2015 Overland JGC with Hemi and averages 13mpg. Supposedly it'll touch 18-19mpg highway.

[Johnny_P]

Perfectly fine versus

We need more and less around here.

My friend has a 2015 Overland JGC with Hemi and averages 13mpg. Supposedly it'll touch 18-19mpg highway.

Right the V6 gets around 20-25 highway.

[Johnny_P]

Even the V6 is perfectly fine in that vehicle. 0-60 in like 8 or so is great and it gets much better fuel mileage.

Perfectly fine versus

We need more and less around here.

Beats me but the sixer felt pretty quick and sounded awesome up top.

[Johnny_P]

IMO you're getting quite a bit for your money in that truck

I guess you could theoretically full size given the driveway but they're monsters so...

Even a longbed crew cab Tacoma felt too long.

Yeah they're longbois.

[Apex]

New fullsizers are wide too, really wide compared to the mid-size contingent.

[max225]

https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/deta ... /overview/



But lawd, the complexity. Air suspension.

Warranty ? you won’t own it long enough for anything to break

[Apex]

My curiosity is piqued by the Trailhawk WK2.

Seats look epic and comfortable.

You should go get in one and report back.

[CorvetteWaxer]

https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/deta ... /overview/



But lawd, the complexity. Air suspension.

Nevermind. Noticed this is a grand Cherokee..

[CorvetteWaxer]

That was the worst vehicle I ever owned. You've been warned.

See?

My gut was right.

See my edit. It might be okay, but I am still gun-shy with these.

[max225]

My curiosity is piqued by the Trailhawk WK2.

Seats look epic and comfortable.

You should almost have an even trade with the Wrangler.

[Apex]

That was the worst vehicle I ever owned. You've been warned.

See?

My gut was right.

had a Cherokee, not a Grand.

[D Griff]

See?

My gut was right.

See my edit. It might be okay, but I am still gun-shy with these.

JGC has a way better transmission and isn't hideous, to start with.

My sister owned a JGC (2012 I think) for like 6-7 years and they loved it/had no issues whatsoever.

[CorvetteWaxer]

See my edit. It might be okay, but I am still gun-shy with these.

JGC has a way better transmission and isn't hideous, to start with.

My sister owned a JGC (2012 I think) for like 6-7 years and they loved it/had no issues whatsoever.

The only experience I have with the JGC is my in-laws have a 2007 that just turned 35k miles and needed $2k in repairs this last trip we took last week.

It looks like brand new, but needed a power steering pump, steering rack and all the shocks and struts were shot.

The shocks I get, age.... The steering not so much, but it is older. They've kept up on service and checkups meticulously at the dealership.

[max225]

JGC has a way better transmission and isn't hideous, to start with.

My sister owned a JGC (2012 I think) for like 6-7 years and they loved it/had no issues whatsoever.

The only experience I have with the JGC is my in-laws have a 2007 that just turned 35k miles and needed $2k in repairs this last trip we took last week.

It looks like brand new, but needed a power steering pump, steering rack and all the shocks and struts were shot.

The shocks I get, age.... The steering not so much, but it is older. They've kept up on service and checkups meticulously at the dealership.

What happened with the rack ?
The job you described is 5k in cali.

[CorvetteWaxer]

The only experience I have with the JGC is my in-laws have a 2007 that just turned 35k miles and needed $2k in repairs this last trip we took last week.

It looks like brand new, but needed a power steering pump, steering rack and all the shocks and struts were shot.

The shocks I get, age.... The steering not so much, but it is older. They've kept up on service and checkups meticulously at the dealership.

What happened with the rack ?
The job you described is 5k in cali.

In the last 2 years their health has been failing and they barely drive anymore at all. When they were using it, they were driving it with a blown power steering pump for who knows how long.... Old people. They thought they were just getting weaker with their health issues. So when I noticed it I had the dealer inspect everything and the steering rack had excessive wear as well.

[CaleDeRoo]

I don't know anyone who has had significant problems with their WK2. My friend's air suspension works perfectly still and get used by his all the time because she's short and he removed the running boards. Those seats look like the ones in the 300S which are basically SRT-lite seats AFAIK.

[max225]

What happened with the rack ?
The job you described is 5k in cali.

In the last 2 years their health has been failing and they barely drive anymore at all. When they were using it, they were driving it with a blown power steering pump for who knows how long.... Old people. They thought they were just getting weaker with their health issues. So when I noticed it I had the dealer inspect everything and the steering rack had excessive wear as well.

Makes sense, fluid leak, led to overheating of pump led to wear. Interestingly I had a PS leak as well on my JGC, it ended up being a $50 hose I changed myself.

[Desertbreh]

Drove a Taco TRD Off Road today and a T4R TRD Off Road today.

4R is fucking comfy. Seats are great. Tons of room in the 2nd row with the driver seat set for me. Taco is the exact opposite. Seat bottoms too short, too close to the floor, and no adjustability.

4R is too damned expensive, has mushy brakes, and is saddled with an antique transmission.

Taco is fine on price, I've found the ideal truck...

https://www.bergeyschryslerjeepdodge.co ... bc787b.htm

But it just isn't comfortable for me.

Man, I hate to even bring this up...

https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/deta ... /overview/



I never should've gotten rid of it. I drove to the moist south and back with zero comfort issues whatsoever, it has heated seats, the better stereo... the only shit part is that the headlights suck.

You are a sick man.

[max225]

Go figure, been raining all day and the isn't leaking today.

Do you think you walk in your sleep get water and spill it on your floor, in order to then the car off and blame it all on FCA... yet it was you all along you just don't remember ?

Something about this "Leak" is

[D Griff]

You are a sick man.

I just clicked the link for that

Is that YOUR actual ? It sure looks identical. Would be the true move to go buy the same car back...

[D Griff]

Do you think you walk in your sleep get water and spill it on your floor, in order to then the car off and blame it all on FCA... yet it was you all along you just don't remember ?

Something about this "Leak" is

Only thing I did was to wipe down all the passenger side door seals with a rag. Didn't even Gummipflege them like I said I would.



Rain has been steady all day, both passenger side footwells are bone day.

I don't get it.

doesn't want you to

[Apex]

doesn't want you to

I don't wanna

It's exhausting. But having a lagoon at my feet is also exhausting.

If you leave the drain plugs out, it can’t build up.

[max225]

I don't wanna

It's exhausting. But having a lagoon at my feet is also exhausting.

If you leave the drain plugs out, it can’t build up.

Now we know the real reason wranglers have em

[goIftdibrad]

If you leave the drain plugs out, it can’t build up.

Now we know the real reason wranglers have em

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