2020 Canyon AT4
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Just make the picture smaller by 20% and it will be the Canyon.[user not found] wrote: ↑Sat Aug 24, 2019 12:02 pmMelon wrote: ↑Thu Aug 22, 2019 1:28 pm 2020 Canyon AT4
https://www.autoevolution.com/news/2021 ... 36944.html
That's the Sierra.
Here:
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Wow. Look at that.
Why would anyone buy a Ram when that beauty is available?
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I know, I know, the article only shows the Sierra.[user not found] wrote: ↑Sat Aug 24, 2019 12:02 pmMelon wrote: ↑Thu Aug 22, 2019 1:28 pm 2020 Canyon AT4
https://www.autoevolution.com/news/2021 ... 36944.html
That's the Sierra.
Just Google "Canyon AT4"
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Unless things have changed DRASTICALLY in the 5 mos since I've been there, the AT4 is going to be pretty damned
Desertbreh wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2017 6:40 pm My guess would be that Chris took some time off because he has read the dialogue on this page 1,345 times and decided to spend some of his free time doing something besides beating a horse to death.
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It's astonishingly ugly IMO. GM design has completely jumped the shark.
Desertbreh wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2017 6:40 pm My guess would be that Chris took some time off because he has read the dialogue on this page 1,345 times and decided to spend some of his free time doing something besides beating a horse to death.
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Yea, at most. GM's going to try their best to play it up
Uglified versions of what are currently handsome trucks.
If the ZR2 is where it was 8 months ago...
Desertbreh wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2017 6:40 pm My guess would be that Chris took some time off because he has read the dialogue on this page 1,345 times and decided to spend some of his free time doing something besides beating a horse to death.
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I think the chebby 2500 in custom trim is the best gm full size truck. If the 1500 had the same fender/door as the 2500 it wouldn't actually be bad looking. I hate the swoopy styling of the 1/2 ton down the side.
Right but isn't the way a 4x4 works different than AWD? 4x4 is max torque to all wheels when engaged?
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Yep, but Auto 4WD will switch to 4WD on its own. Regular 4x4 systems require you to manually engage the 4WD system to send power to both axles.
All wheels getting power will depend on locker/lsd arrangements per axle.
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AWD vehicles have a differential in the center, allowing for different axle speeds as a vehicle goes around a turn.
4x4 vehicles have a geared transfer case without a differential, both axles get the same speed regardless if you're turning or not. As such, on pavement, they can and will bind, or skip the tires around, because they can't speed up or slow down an individual axle.
Auto 4x4 will have a clutched component on the transfer case, where it will engage the clutch if the computers decide its necessary, at which point it will act like a 4x4 with a transfer case, until the clutch opens when the computers think the added traction isn't necessary.
Auto 4x4 would be beneficial over a regular 4x4 system if you live somewhere that has snow and ice to worry about on the roads.
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fantastic response here.Johnny_P wrote: ↑Fri Aug 30, 2019 12:29 pmAWD vehicles have a differential in the center, allowing for different axle speeds as a vehicle goes around a turn.
4x4 vehicles have a geared transfer case without a differential, both axles get the same speed regardless if you're turning or not. As such, on pavement, they can and will bind, or skip the tires around, because they can't speed up or slow down an individual axle.
Auto 4x4 will have a clutched component on the transfer case, where it will engage the clutch if the computers decide its necessary, at which point it will act like a 4x4 with a transfer case, until the clutch opens when the computers think the added traction isn't necessary.
Auto 4x4 would be beneficial over a regular 4x4 system if you live somewhere that has snow and ice to worry about on the roads.
Desertbreh wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2017 6:40 pm My guess would be that Chris took some time off because he has read the dialogue on this page 1,345 times and decided to spend some of his free time doing something besides beating a horse to death.
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4x4 will also have a locked differential in the front, which won't allow the front tires to rotate at different speeds, which is needed when turning. This is why 4x4 vehicles will skip on dry pavement.
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even the highest trim Toyota TURDs don’t have front lockers.[user not found] wrote: ↑Thu Sep 05, 2019 12:43 amNein.Huckleberry wrote: ↑Tue Sep 03, 2019 2:04 pm 4x4 will also have a locked differential in the front, which won't allow the front tires to rotate at different speeds, which is needed when turning. This is why 4x4 vehicles will skip on dry pavement.
Most 4wd vehicles do not have a front locker from the factory. The ZR2 Colorado and Rubicon are two of very few exceptions.
You’re thinking of the variable center diff in AWD vehicles vs the locked transfer case in 4WD vehicles.
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My mistake. You're right.[user not found] wrote: ↑Thu Sep 05, 2019 12:43 amNein.Huckleberry wrote: ↑Tue Sep 03, 2019 2:04 pm 4x4 will also have a locked differential in the front, which won't allow the front tires to rotate at different speeds, which is needed when turning. This is why 4x4 vehicles will skip on dry pavement.
Most 4wd vehicles do not have a front locker from the factory. The ZR2 Colorado and Rubicon are two of very few exceptions.
You’re thinking of the variable center diff in AWD vehicles vs the locked transfer case in 4WD vehicles.
On another note, for some reason this site decided to block my work's ip.
Perfect. I think you gave this explanation before and I just couldn't find it. Thank you for explaining it againJohnny_P wrote: ↑Fri Aug 30, 2019 12:29 pmAWD vehicles have a differential in the center, allowing for different axle speeds as a vehicle goes around a turn.
4x4 vehicles have a geared transfer case without a differential, both axles get the same speed regardless if you're turning or not. As such, on pavement, they can and will bind, or skip the tires around, because they can't speed up or slow down an individual axle.
Auto 4x4 will have a clutched component on the transfer case, where it will engage the clutch if the computers decide its necessary, at which point it will act like a 4x4 with a transfer case, until the clutch opens when the computers think the added traction isn't necessary.
Auto 4x4 would be beneficial over a regular 4x4 system if you live somewhere that has snow and ice to worry about on the roads.
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