Extended cab has suicide doors. Actually rather ideal for baby loading IMO. Rear seat is fine for me at 6'2".
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I'd love to own a Raptor though. Hell I'd love a "poorly built" Mustang GT.
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Desertbreh wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2017 6:40 pm My guess would be that Chris took some time off because he has read the dialogue on this page 1,345 times and decided to spend some of his free time doing something besides beating a horse to death.
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Perfect for the Fri-Sunday uber drive... just wash out the piss and puke after you're done with your shift and hit the trails.Davestr wrote: ↑Wed Apr 11, 2018 2:54 pm Fuk Jeep and Raptor trash - You want this LOL Not gonna be in the US appears. Seems like a good rig - https://jalopnik.com/the-toyota-land-cr ... 1825172161
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Case in point.
Desertbreh wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2017 6:40 pm My guess would be that Chris took some time off because he has read the dialogue on this page 1,345 times and decided to spend some of his free time doing something besides beating a horse to death.
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LOL!!!!!!!!!!!max225 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 11, 2018 2:57 pmPerfect for the Fri-Sunday uber drive... just wash out the piss and puke after you're done with your shift and hit the trails.Davestr wrote: ↑Wed Apr 11, 2018 2:54 pm Fuk Jeep and Raptor trash - You want this LOL Not gonna be in the US appears. Seems like a good rig - https://jalopnik.com/the-toyota-land-cr ... 1825172161
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YTHO. To spend all night finding a parking spot? Where, on the East Coast, are you ever going to use this thing for its designated purpose? You won't. You'll just quit your job, start doing remodels, and impregnate a few ex-girlfriends.
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I like this.Davestr wrote: ↑Wed Apr 11, 2018 2:54 pm Fuk Jeep and Raptor trash - You want this LOL Not gonna be in the US appears. Seems like a good rig - https://jalopnik.com/the-toyota-land-cr ... 1825172161
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There is a major WANTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>NEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEED disillusionment with the general public as well as this forum. The ratio of "want" aka lifestyle purchases is far exceeding the "need" as of late.Desertbreh wrote: ↑Wed Apr 11, 2018 3:05 pmYTHO. To spend all night finding a parking spot? Where, on the East Coast, are you ever going to use this thing for its designated purpose? You won't. You'll just quit your job, start doing remodels, and impregnate a few ex-girlfriends.
some people just WANT to feel like they have the fastest/most capable/best looking car on the road.
Dat american DREAM BRO. WAKE THE FUK UP AND SMELL THE DIESEL AND BALD EAGLES, AND TURN UP THE ROCK AND FUCKING ROLL.
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Me too. Basic, torque, workable and capable and will do off road as it should be done from the data supplied. Honestly its what a Jeep should be. But dat Mall LOLDesertbreh wrote: ↑Wed Apr 11, 2018 3:07 pmI like this.Davestr wrote: ↑Wed Apr 11, 2018 2:54 pm Fuk Jeep and Raptor trash - You want this LOL Not gonna be in the US appears. Seems like a good rig - https://jalopnik.com/the-toyota-land-cr ... 1825172161
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I get it. Already guilty as charged with the C6. But to me the Raptor is super uncapable in anything but a rural western US environment. It just bumps into things because it's too big and sucks gas, like an H1/H2. I get the Jeep. I get the ZR2. I just don't get the Raptor.max225 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 11, 2018 3:07 pmThere is a major WANTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>NEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEED disillusionment with the general public as well as this forum. The ratio of "want" aka lifestyle purchases is far exceeding the "need" as of late.Desertbreh wrote: ↑Wed Apr 11, 2018 3:05 pm
YTHO. To spend all night finding a parking spot? Where, on the East Coast, are you ever going to use this thing for its designated purpose? You won't. You'll just quit your job, start doing remodels, and impregnate a few ex-girlfriends.
some people just WANT to feel like they have the fastest/mostcapable/bestlooking/mostcapable car on the road.
Dat american DREAM BRO. WAKE THE FUK UP AND SMELL THE DIESEL AND BALD EAGLES, AND TURN UP THE ROCK AND FUCKING ROLL.
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I really want to buy a late 90s earrrrrly 00 4 runner... but they are so DAMN OLD at this point that they are going to have "old car issues" similar to what I am having with the crown vic, which would be annoying to deal with.
Also @Dave... you can get a bare bonez 2 door heep for 29k with a or 31k with a gayomatic.
You can even opt to NOT HAVE AC, because you're not a pussy right?
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I would argue that a C1234567 is even more useless if we wanted to go down that route.Desertbreh wrote: ↑Wed Apr 11, 2018 3:16 pmI get it. Already guilty as charged with the C6. But to me the Raptor is super uncapable in anything but a rural western US environment. It just bumps into things because it's too big and sucks gas, like an H1/H2. I get the Jeep. I get the ZR2. I just don't get the Raptor.max225 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 11, 2018 3:07 pm
There is a major WANTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>NEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEED disillusionment with the general public as well as this forum. The ratio of "want" aka lifestyle purchases is far exceeding the "need" as of late.
some people just WANT to feel like they have the fastest/mostcapable/bestlooking/mostcapable car on the road.
Dat american DREAM BRO. WAKE THE FUK UP AND SMELL THE DIESEL AND BALD EAGLES, AND TURN UP THE ROCK AND FUCKING ROLL.
It can't tow anything
You can't fit more than 2 ppl
You can't throw muddy tents in the bed
It can't clear a pebble
You constantly have to park far
Needless to say you can't do anything outside of smooth roads and shit roads destroy the car
You constantly have to wax
Ppl assume you have wayy too much money when you spent less than 1/2 of what they did on their Jeep Compass with 10k of negative equity etc and ask you for gas money
You can't use a lot of parking garages (same issues for both it seems)
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Nice to see one has options like no AC. Why not if thats what makes the spec work for you. I applaud that rather than the incessant package deals most makers make you suffer with. If you want basic you should be able to get it.max225 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 11, 2018 3:16 pmI really want to buy a late 90s earrrrrly 00 4 runner... but they are so DAMN OLD at this point that they are going to have "old car issues" similar to what I am having with the crown vic, which would be annoying to deal with.
Also @Dave... you can get a bare bonez 2 door heep for 29k with a or 31k with a gayomatic.
You can even opt to NOT HAVE AC, because you're not a pussy right?
Im glad you can get a 2 door non loaded model. What I posted seems basic but with 4 doors and major torque and Toyota quality to boot. Whats not to like if you are a truck/jeep bro.
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Desertbreh wrote: ↑Wed Apr 11, 2018 3:05 pmYTHO. To spend all night finding a parking spot? Where, on the East Coast, are you ever going to use this thing for its designated purpose? You won't. You'll just quit your job, start doing remodels, and impregnate a few ex-girlfriends.
Desertbreh wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2017 6:40 pm My guess would be that Chris took some time off because he has read the dialogue on this page 1,345 times and decided to spend some of his free time doing something besides beating a horse to death.
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True. I just hate Ford and everything they make. Always have.
I kind of see the Mustang. It's a livable sports car.
The Raptor looks cool but I have no idea why anyone would actually buy one. It's terrible in all situations outside of desert running...which the ZR2 or the Ranger Raptor will be able to do just fine while being WAY better to live with.
Desertbreh wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2017 6:40 pm My guess would be that Chris took some time off because he has read the dialogue on this page 1,345 times and decided to spend some of his free time doing something besides beating a horse to death.
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So I can't want to own something that doesn't make sense to own? Just because I want something doesn't mean I'm going to buy it. I want a Miata. I also want a Mclaren and a 911 and an RX7 twin turbo and all sorts of shit.... doesn't mean I'm going to go buy it...Desertbreh wrote: ↑Wed Apr 11, 2018 3:05 pmYTHO. To spend all night finding a parking spot? Where, on the East Coast, are you ever going to use this thing for its designated purpose? You won't. You'll just quit your job, start doing remodels, and impregnate a few ex-girlfriends.
you guys....
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The only thing that makes sense to own for you is a Mini with giant Jeepbro welded steel bumpers. I think I am more frustrated with the fact that the Raptor doesn't make sense for hardly ANYONE. It's really the new H2. And I see a lot of guys driving them that really can't afford them. I DO NOT see anyone in a Ferrari or McLaren that cannot afford them.Johnny_P wrote: ↑Wed Apr 11, 2018 3:48 pmSo I can't want to own something that doesn't make sense to own? Just because I want something doesn't mean I'm going to buy it. I want a Miata. I also want a Mclaren and a 911 and an RX7 twin turbo and all sorts of shit.... doesn't mean I'm going to go buy it...Desertbreh wrote: ↑Wed Apr 11, 2018 3:05 pm
YTHO. To spend all night finding a parking spot? Where, on the East Coast, are you ever going to use this thing for its designated purpose? You won't. You'll just quit your job, start doing remodels, and impregnate a few ex-girlfriends.
you guys....
I just calling out the Raptor as the nasty piece of white trash utopia that it is.
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I feel like if I bought a ford (GT350 or Shelby are the only ones I would ever buy) and had a bad experience it would be "on me bro" due to the generally poor reviews on here. Flat plane crank doe.[user not found] wrote: ↑Wed Apr 11, 2018 3:40 pmThe Ferd track record is not promising. I had problems with a bone-stock Focus, my dad has issues with his bone-stock 2004 F-350, Griffington has issues with his Ferd-platformed bangbus.Desertbreh wrote: ↑Wed Apr 11, 2018 1:05 pm Also, according to this forum, you are dumb AF for buying a Ford product. 4Zilch is a moran. Ferd is garbage.
4Zilch is an outlier with the FiST but from reading the FiST threads on other forumz, they're not immune to their own issues.
Ferd just has shitty dealer tactics, poor customer service that favors the dealer over the customer, and they're really slow to address issues.
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Desertbreh wrote: ↑Wed Apr 11, 2018 4:08 pmThe only thing that makes sense to own for you is a Mini with giant Jeepbro welded steel bumpers. I think I am more frustrated with the fact that the Raptor doesn't make sense for hardly ANYONE. It's really the new H2. And I see a lot of guys driving them that really can't afford them. I DO NOT see anyone in a Ferrari or McLaren that cannot afford them.Johnny_P wrote: ↑Wed Apr 11, 2018 3:48 pm
So I can't want to own something that doesn't make sense to own? Just because I want something doesn't mean I'm going to buy it. I want a Miata. I also want a Mclaren and a 911 and an RX7 twin turbo and all sorts of shit.... doesn't mean I'm going to go buy it...
you guys....
I just calling out the Raptor as the nasty piece of white trash utopia that it is.
Desertbreh wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2017 6:40 pm My guess would be that Chris took some time off because he has read the dialogue on this page 1,345 times and decided to spend some of his free time doing something besides beating a horse to death.
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Devilchrono wrote: ↑Wed Apr 11, 2018 4:12 pmI care, but I'm in no place to purchase something like that for awhile, so I can wait for more info and then cross-shop if/when the time comes.
Desertbreh wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2017 6:40 pm My guess would be that Chris took some time off because he has read the dialogue on this page 1,345 times and decided to spend some of his free time doing something besides beating a horse to death.
no one on here has owned either of those cars. I'd love a gt350.Desertbreh wrote: ↑Wed Apr 11, 2018 4:19 pmI feel like if I bought a ford (GT350 or Shelby are the only ones I would ever buy) and had a bad experience it would be "on me bro" due to the generally poor reviews on here. Flat plane crank doe.[user not found] wrote: ↑Wed Apr 11, 2018 3:40 pm
The Ferd track record is not promising. I had problems with a bone-stock Focus, my dad has issues with his bone-stock 2004 F-350, Griffington has issues with his Ferd-platformed bangbus.
4Zilch is an outlier with the FiST but from reading the FiST threads on other forumz, they're not immune to their own issues.
Ferd just has shitty dealer tactics, poor customer service that favors the dealer over the customer, and they're really slow to address issues.
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Desertbreh wrote: ↑Wed Apr 11, 2018 4:08 pmThe only thing that makes sense to own for you is a Mini with giant Jeepbro welded steel bumpers. I think I am more frustrated with the fact that the Raptor doesn't make sense for hardly ANYONE. It's really the new H2. And I see a lot of guys driving them that really can't afford them. I DO NOT see anyone in a Ferrari or McLaren that cannot afford them.Johnny_P wrote: ↑Wed Apr 11, 2018 3:48 pm
So I can't want to own something that doesn't make sense to own? Just because I want something doesn't mean I'm going to buy it. I want a Miata. I also want a Mclaren and a 911 and an RX7 twin turbo and all sorts of shit.... doesn't mean I'm going to go buy it...
you guys....
I just calling out the Raptor as the nasty piece of white trash utopia that it is.
I still want one doe
Also... makes sense for me to own a reliable mini with welded steel bumpers. Which doesn't exist.