Jeeponomics 101: Eternal tirekicking for the gutless Jeep

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Tue Jan 14, 2020 8:06 pm
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No JK had LEDs, my Rubi Hard Rock had the same bic lighter powered headlights as the base model.
JKs got LEDs in 17 and 18, the higher trims got them as standard actually.

https://www.wranglerforum.com/f274/2017 ... 84713.html
Ah, I guess they got tired of getting ripped on and started buying the Chinese lights for the assembly line.
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JKs got LEDs in 17 and 18, the higher trims got them as standard actually.

https://www.wranglerforum.com/f274/2017 ... 84713.html
Ah, I guess they got tired of getting ripped on and started buying the Chinese lights for the assembly line.
Yep there were some really wacky 18 models where they literally threw the kitchen sink at the remaining JKs. You had some sports with fucktory LEDs. It was a shit show.

I am pissed that Jeeps are still so damn expensive... a decent nearly stripped 2 door is 35k... pretty fucking insane.

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Ah, I guess they got tired of getting ripped on and started buying the Chinese lights for the assembly line.
Yep there were some really wacky 18 models where they literally threw the kitchen sink at the remaining JKs. You had some sports with fucktory LEDs. It was a shit show.

I am pissed that Jeeps are still so damn expensive... a decent nearly stripped 2 door is 35k... pretty fucking insane.
I don't mind it.

If I decide to off my JLUR in the next 12-18 months I'm still going to do well enough. ;)

When you buy in, you appreciate the price hikes and used Jeep price support. Best trade ever was the JK for the JL. I barely lost the tax I paid.
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Tue Jan 14, 2020 8:26 pm

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Yep there were some really wacky 18 models where they literally threw the kitchen sink at the remaining JKs. You had some sports with fucktory LEDs. It was a shit show.

I am pissed that Jeeps are still so damn expensive... a decent nearly stripped 2 door is 35k... pretty fucking insane.
I don't mind it.

If I decide to off my JLUR in the next 12-18 months I'm still going to do well enough. ;)

When you buy in, you appreciate the price hikes and used Jeep price support. Best trade ever was the JK for the JL. I barely lost the tax I paid.
Yea but you got quite an epic :dill: up-front due to the Cherokee fiasco. Most aren't as "lucky".

I am trying to see the best way to "buy in" at the moment... For some reason South county is down to 35 JLs which is insane... others in the area carry nearly 100... they must have blown their entire load right before NY was over...

Hard to gauge current market pricing without that. Also there are 400 JLs for sale within 15 miles of my house... there are 0 base, 2 door willys.... :unicorn: life.

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I don't mind it.

If I decide to off my JLUR in the next 12-18 months I'm still going to do well enough. ;)

When you buy in, you appreciate the price hikes and used Jeep price support. Best trade ever was the JK for the JL. I barely lost the tax I paid.
Yea but you got quite an epic :dill: up-front due to the Cherokee fiasco. Most aren't as "lucky".

I am trying to see the best way to "buy in" at the moment... For some reason South county is down to 35 JLs which is insane... others in the area carry nearly 100... they must have blown their entire load right before NY was over...

Hard to gauge current market pricing without that. Also there are 400 JLs for sale within 15 miles of my house... there are 0 base, 2 door willys.... :unicorn: life.
I'd call and try to get ahold of Adam at SC and see what he can do to move another unit. They probably were doing some very aggressive deals to get that low on inventory.
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JK Willy’s didn’t come with LEDs or power anything, but I’m still happy with it. I’d get a JL Willy’s for sure.
How much was the JK upcharge? Because the JL upcharge is quite high...
I’ll have to find my window sticker and then the actual paper work to see what :dill: I got.
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For those still shopping Jeeps. The willys is a great package.
For 5k you get.
Better wheels and tires
Leds
Power everything
A serious no frills approach to it.
33.9k MSRP on the 2 door
JL Willys gets larger brakes all around too.

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For those still shopping Jeeps. The willys is a great package.
For 5k you get.
Better wheels and tires
Leds
Power everything
A serious no frills approach to it.
33.9k MSRP on the 2 door
JK Willy’s didn’t come with LEDs or power anything, but I’m still happy with it. I’d get a JL Willy’s for sure.
Reminds me, I’ve got a pile of :jeep: stuff for you.
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JK Willy’s didn’t come with LEDs or power anything, but I’m still happy with it. I’d get a JL Willy’s for sure.
Reminds me, I’ve got a pile of :jeep: stuff for you.
Oh yeah!! Did you find something to ship them in?

I remembered about this a few weeks ago, but figured you’d started parting them out locally.
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Reminds me, I’ve got a pile of :jeep: stuff for you.
Oh yeah!! Did you find something to ship them in?

I remembered about this a few weeks ago, but figured you’d started parting them out locally.
Nah, holidays hit, and I know you've been going through stuff with your mom - so I just put them on the backburner for the time being.

I was able to find a box for the rear cargo mat, and I think everything else has a box. I'll check on my way out the door today.
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Oh yeah!! Did you find something to ship them in?

I remembered about this a few weeks ago, but figured you’d started parting them out locally.
Nah, holidays hit, and I know you've been going through stuff with your mom - so I just put them on the backburner for the time being.

I was able to find a box for the rear cargo mat, and I think everything else has a box. I'll check on my way out the door today.
Much appreciated. Just let me know.
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Sat Jan 18, 2020 1:40 am

Wow. Cheaper than they took it in on trade for.

https://www.vroom.com/inventory/jeep-wr ... G5GL244843
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Wow. Cheaper than they took it in on trade for.

https://www.vroom.com/inventory/jeep-wr ... G5GL244843
Maybe they know their back-end :math: and figure they'd be better off losing money/netting even to move Jeeps/Wranglers FAST and make their nicer profits on more "mass market" cars? Like they know that at an aggressive price the Wranglers will fly off the shelf?

Maybe a one-off? Who knows? Vroom knows.
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Wow. Cheaper than they took it in on trade for.

https://www.vroom.com/inventory/jeep-wr ... G5GL244843
Yea you had some :alpo: luck per usual. My 370z got marked up 9k and sold in one week. :wtf:

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Wow. Cheaper than they took it in on trade for.

https://www.vroom.com/inventory/jeep-wr ... G5GL244843
Maybe they know their back-end :math: and figure they'd be better off losing money/netting even to move Jeeps/Wranglers FAST and make their nicer profits on more "mass market" cars? Like they know that at an aggressive price the Wranglers will fly off the shelf?

Maybe a one-off? Who knows? Vroom knows.
Nah they lost their ass, and will put it into their future wrangler offers. This should have been a 22/23k trade offer

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Wow. Cheaper than they took it in on trade for.

https://www.vroom.com/inventory/jeep-wr ... G5GL244843
Yea you had some :alpo: luck per usual. My 370z got marked up 9k and sold in one week. :wtf:
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Definitely :alpo: luck on that deal.
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Sat Jan 18, 2020 1:51 am
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Maybe they know their back-end :math: and figure they'd be better off losing money/netting even to move Jeeps/Wranglers FAST and make their nicer profits on more "mass market" cars? Like they know that at an aggressive price the Wranglers will fly off the shelf?

Maybe a one-off? Who knows? Vroom knows.
Nah they lost their ass, and will put it into their future wrangler offers. This should have been a 22/23k trade offer
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https://www.southcountychryslerdodgejee ... a5f8b2.htm

Man over 9000 off a leftover 19 jeep... it brings it down to FJ pricing ... :wtf: is going on with the used market that you can't get a JL under 30k used yet new ones cost the same/less than used ones.

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https://www.southcountychryslerdodgejee ... a5f8b2.htm

Man over 9000 off a leftover 19 jeep... it brings it down to FJ pricing ... :wtf: is going on with the used market that you can't get a JL under 30k used yet new ones cost the same/less than used ones.
You won't.

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D Griff wrote:
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https://www.southcountychryslerdodgejee ... a5f8b2.htm

Man over 9000 off a leftover 19 jeep... it brings it down to FJ pricing ... :wtf: is going on with the used market that you can't get a JL under 30k used yet new ones cost the same/less than used ones.
You won't.
:nope: I am trying to stay under 30k. even with the discunt it is over 35k.. OTD. The AZN also "Hate the way jeeps drive" after being in the FJ. Go figure... :lol:

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max225 wrote:
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You won't.
:nope: I am trying to stay under 30k. even with the discunt it is over 35k.. OTD. The AZN also "Hate the way jeeps drive" after being in the FJ. Go figure... :lol:
AMERICAN CARS ARE TERRIBAD BRO, DUH.

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:nope: I am trying to stay under 30k. even with the discunt it is over 35k.. OTD. The AZN also "Hate the way jeeps drive" after being in the FJ. Go figure... :lol:
AMERICAN CARS ARE TERRIBAD BRO, DUH.
It's Italian isn't it :oops:

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You won't.
:nope: I am trying to stay under 30k. even with the discunt it is over 35k.. OTD. The AZN also "Hate the way jeeps drive" after being in the FJ. Go figure... :lol:
Well to be fair they do drive differently. You kind of have to want one.

I kinda miss the Jeep I had in AZ. It was an interesting vehicle.

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BIL bought a new JL Sahara. :notbad:

Can't be bothered to help my SIL pay off the student loans in my in-laws' name, but hey, why not trade in a perfectly good Rav4 for a brand new $40,000 Jeep instead of helping a couple people nearing retirement age get out of debt that isn't really theirs? :rage:

At least maybe I'll get to drive it the next time they're up from Florida. :rolleyes:

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BIL bought a new JL Sahara. :notbad:

Can't be bothered to help my SIL pay off the student loans in my in-laws' name, but hey, why not trade in a perfectly good Rav4 for a brand new $40,000 Jeep instead of helping a couple people nearing retirement age get out of debt that isn't really theirs? :rage:

At least maybe I'll get to drive it the next time they're up from Florida. :rolleyes:
I mean... I am in no position to criticize :plac: moves. And :jeep: is :neat: :iono:

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