Jeeponomics 101: Eternal tirekicking for the trigger-less Jeep

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Sun May 19, 2019 11:02 am

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Sat May 18, 2019 9:38 pm
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Sat May 18, 2019 9:26 pm

You’re doing a me ! :wub: it. I only got 1/10 waves at best
The trail got nuts and I turned it around Still had 4 miles to the overlook. But meh that was good enough for me.

Forest service uses 4cyl Colorado’s. Beefy tires tho. The Jeep could totally handle it I was just worried about the damn minivan rubbers.
Yea I had similar concerns especially since I popped one of these tires before in Maui...

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Sun May 19, 2019 11:25 am

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Sat May 18, 2019 8:20 pm
Here’s your update.

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Jeep doin Jeep things. Topless. Which is also a Jeep thing. The wave is ridiculous. Every damn Jeep does it.
:fuckyeah: is that Sedona? I did a Jeep tour there once, was sweet.

Nice pics and :fancy: camp food. 🍳

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Sun May 19, 2019 2:11 pm

Great stuff mang! So glad you were ultimately able to get your get away!
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Mon May 20, 2019 11:16 am

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Not a Jeep

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Jeep

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:fuckyeah:
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Mon May 20, 2019 11:26 am

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:fuckyeah:
:dat:
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My guess would be that Chris took some time off because he has read the dialogue on this page 1,345 times and decided to spend some of his free time doing something besides beating a horse to death.

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Mon May 20, 2019 11:58 am

Great pics !where is this ?

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Mon May 20, 2019 12:19 pm

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Mon May 20, 2019 11:58 am
Great pics !where is this ?
Some forest service road north of Flagstaff
Bismarck Lake
Grand Canyon Bright Angel Trailhead

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Mon May 20, 2019 12:20 pm

Johnny_P wrote:
Mon May 20, 2019 12:19 pm
max225 wrote:
Mon May 20, 2019 11:58 am
Great pics !where is this ?
Some forest service road north of Flagstaff
Bismarck Lake
Grand Canyon Bright Angel Trailhead
Some of the most incredible land in the country IMO.
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My guess would be that Chris took some time off because he has read the dialogue on this page 1,345 times and decided to spend some of his free time doing something besides beating a horse to death.

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Mon May 20, 2019 12:59 pm

Johnny_P wrote:
Sat May 18, 2019 8:20 pm
Here’s your update.

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Jeep doin Jeep things. Topless. Which is also a Jeep thing. The wave is ridiculous. Every damn Jeep does it.
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Mon May 20, 2019 1:08 pm

Johnny_P wrote:
Mon May 20, 2019 12:19 pm
max225 wrote:
Mon May 20, 2019 11:58 am
Great pics !where is this ?
Some forest service road north of Flagstaff
Bismarck Lake
Grand Canyon Bright Angel Trailhead
Awesome keep on postin!

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Mon May 20, 2019 5:54 pm

max225 wrote:
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Mon May 20, 2019 12:19 pm


Some forest service road north of Flagstaff
Bismarck Lake
Grand Canyon Bright Angel Trailhead
Awesome keep on postin!
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Mon May 20, 2019 6:37 pm

Legs is ded

South Kaibab trail. Nearly a life altering experience. I feel like I want to cry.

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Mon May 20, 2019 9:41 pm

:fuckyeah: :wasteful:

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Tue May 21, 2019 9:22 pm

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Roads like these Image

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Dis a Jeep too

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Can you spot the Jeep?

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Tue May 21, 2019 9:25 pm

Halogen headlights are good. No need for upgraded ones.

Stock radio on the Sahara is good. No need to upgrade at all. Lots of bass.

7” radio is nice but the UConnect stuff hijacks the bottom strip so CarPlay screen is small. Maybe go 8”.

Power is fine.

8AT generally well behaved a nice trans. It holds a gear on a downhill so you don’t ride the brakes.

Wind noise is embarrassing given its price. I need ear plugs. Seriously my ears were ringing after 3 hours in it.

Exhausting in a crosswind.

Fun below about 60 MPH.

24 ish MPG right now which is impressive.

Fuck these minivan tires. You feel so limited by them. Get something meatier. This is stupider than KO2s on a cross trek.

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Tue May 21, 2019 9:27 pm

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Halogen headlights are good. No need for upgraded ones.

Stock radio on the Sahara is good. No need to upgrade at all. Lots of bass.

7” radio is nice but the UConnect stuff hijacks the bottom strip so CarPlay screen is small. Maybe go 8”.

Wind noise is embarrassing given its price. I need ear plugs. Seriously my ears were ringing after 3 hours in it.

Exhausting in a crosswind.

Fun below about 60 MPH.

24 ish MPG right now which is impressive.

Fuck these minivan tires. You feel so limited by them. Get something meatier. This is stupider than KO2s on a cross trek.
:mahtroy: :wub:

You literally stated 5/7 same things as me. :impressive: MPG tho... I was in the low 20s. Apparently I am :wrong: about the wind noise as well as the cross wind situation. I also had ringing ears :(

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Tue May 21, 2019 9:40 pm

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Tue May 21, 2019 9:27 pm
Johnny_P wrote:
Tue May 21, 2019 9:25 pm
Halogen headlights are good. No need for upgraded ones.

Stock radio on the Sahara is good. No need to upgrade at all. Lots of bass.

7” radio is nice but the UConnect stuff hijacks the bottom strip so CarPlay screen is small. Maybe go 8”.

Wind noise is embarrassing given its price. I need ear plugs. Seriously my ears were ringing after 3 hours in it.

Exhausting in a crosswind.

Fun below about 60 MPH.

24 ish MPG right now which is impressive.

Fuck these minivan tires. You feel so limited by them. Get something meatier. This is stupider than KO2s on a cross trek.
:mahtroy: :wub:

You literally stated 5/7 same things as me. :impressive: MPG tho... I was in the low 20s. Apparently I am :wrong: about the wind noise as well as the cross wind situation. I also had ringing ears :(
This is louder than my car. I’ve never had ears ringing from a highway ride until this thing. It’s frankly unacceptable. Everyone gonna shit on me here but the 4R will get you everywhere this will, you’ll run out of balls before you run out of truk. But it rides better and is bank vault quiet.

Maybe the headliner would shut it up?

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:mahtroy: :wub:

You literally stated 5/7 same things as me. :impressive: MPG tho... I was in the low 20s. Apparently I am :wrong: about the wind noise as well as the cross wind situation. I also had ringing ears :(
This is louder than my car. I’ve never had ears ringing from a highway ride until this thing. It’s frankly unacceptable. Everyone gonna shit on me here but the 4R will get you everywhere this will, you’ll run out of balls before you run out of truk. But it rides better and is bank vault quiet.

Maybe the headliner would shut it up?
All the noise seems to originate around the end of the windshield ... the top was quiet.

But that ancient 5 speed and it must be a shit ton slower due to extra 500lbs. Have you driven the current gen? That interior is also :disgust:

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Wed May 22, 2019 9:30 pm

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Tue May 21, 2019 9:49 pm
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This is louder than my car. I’ve never had ears ringing from a highway ride until this thing. It’s frankly unacceptable. Everyone gonna shit on me here but the 4R will get you everywhere this will, you’ll run out of balls before you run out of truk. But it rides better and is bank vault quiet.

Maybe the headliner would shut it up?
All the noise seems to originate around the end of the windshield ... the top was quiet.

But that ancient 5 speed and it must be a shit ton slower due to extra 500lbs. Have you driven the current gen? That interior is also :disgust:
Yeah it drives lazy. I think it’s mostly throttle tuning. But the engine has a lot of torque. I don’t hate the interior just feels dated because of the game boy gauge screen and tiny infotainment.

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All the noise seems to originate around the end of the windshield ... the top was quiet.

But that ancient 5 speed and it must be a shit ton slower due to extra 500lbs. Have you driven the current gen? That interior is also :disgust:
Yeah it drives lazy. I think it’s mostly throttle tuning. But the engine has a lot of torque. I don’t hate the interior just feels dated because of the game boy gauge screen and tiny infotainment.
I don’t find that acceptable at nearly 50k. I can’t spend that kind of coin on something that is literally taken from 2003. Slow, squishy, boring and dated. I’d do it at 15-20k used but they obviously don’t depreciate.

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I do like this thing. Just wish it was quieter on the highway. It’s really terrible over 60.

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Fri May 24, 2019 12:27 am

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Yeah it drives lazy. I think it’s mostly throttle tuning. But the engine has a lot of torque. I don’t hate the interior just feels dated because of the game boy gauge screen and tiny infotainment.
I don’t find that acceptable at nearly 50k. I can’t spend that kind of coin on something that is literally taken from 2003. Slow, squishy, boring and dated. I’d do it at 15-20k used but they obviously don’t depreciate.
They gauges are the main thing that would hold me back I guess. Everything else is fixable.
You can’t fix the steering or the wind noise on the Jeep.

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Fri May 24, 2019 10:39 pm

So despite desert cruising for 10 days the AC hasn’t been necessary. I turned it on today in Vegas. This thing is chuggy as fuck at low speed with the AC running. Clunky shifts, chuggy acceleration, and varying engine braking. It’s annoying.

I don’t remember the JK doing that.

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