Jeeponomics 101: Eternal tirekicking for the gutless Jeep

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Yeah, to me, the pricing seems fine. What other vehicle can do what the :jeep: does? None. ALl of the robustness that goes into them, while unused by most, is one reason they are loved and it costs more to design and build. Also, it's a fucking ox cart, I don't think it's a big issue that the pointless no-key nonsense and :fancy: headlights are extra options, at its core, that isn't the point of the vehicle. If you want a bunch of tech features for less money, go buy a Hyundai.
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The wants have been a thing recently... but it's stupid for me, I would never off-road. I do certainly have a placcon level 3 :doe: ... I haven't even driven the Beemah in like a week.
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D Griff wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2019 10:20 am
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in4Griffgetsa :jeep:
The wants have been a thing recently... but it's stupid for me, I would never off-road. I do certainly have a placcon level 3 :doe: ... I haven't even driven the Beemah in like a week.
Top-off, door-off beach trips :doe:
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D Griff wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2019 10:20 am
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in4Griffgetsa :jeep:
The wants have been a thing recently... but it's stupid for me, I would never off-road. I do certainly have a placcon level 3 :doe: ... I haven't even driven the Beemah in like a week.
I haven't driven my car in 2 weeks :sad:
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Wow, those look awesome!
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Apex wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2019 10:22 am
D Griff wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2019 10:20 am

The wants have been a thing recently... but it's stupid for me, I would never off-road. I do certainly have a placcon level 3 :doe: ... I haven't even driven the Beemah in like a week.
Top-off, door-off beach trips :doe:
Right. A sport that just gets the top and doors off is awesome for the street. A little extra ground clearance to get to MTB trails makes it a pretty great all-arounder.
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Detroit wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2019 10:34 am
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Top-off, door-off beach trips :doe:
Right. A sport that just gets the top and doors off is awesome for the street. A little extra ground clearance to get to MTB trails makes it a pretty great all-arounder.
Yeah I'd just get a cheap-spec one and probably do about a 50/50 split between that and the :poorvette: for daily doodie if I did it... but :iono: In my head the :jeep: would actually be more fun than the Beemah :derp: around town, but maybe not. The trouble is, after haing the ;poorvette: for years, kinda sporty just doesn't do much for me.
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D Griff wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2019 10:37 am
Detroit wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2019 10:34 am
Right. A sport that just gets the top and doors off is awesome for the street. A little extra ground clearance to get to MTB trails makes it a pretty great all-arounder.
Yeah I'd just get a cheap-spec one and probably do about a 50/50 split between that and the :poorvette: for daily doodie if I did it... but :iono: In my head the :jeep: would actually be more fun than the Beemah :derp: around town, but maybe not. The trouble is, after haing the ;poorvette: for years, kinda sporty just doesn't do much for me.
Right...which is why the :jeep: is perfect. There's no "kinda sporty" it's not sporty at all. That's not the point. Top down, doors off, music blasting cruising around ZFG is the point.

I actually think a :poorvette: and :jeep: combo is perfect. I'll be executing that myself soon.
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Detroit wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2019 10:42 am
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Yeah I'd just get a cheap-spec one and probably do about a 50/50 split between that and the :poorvette: for daily doodie if I did it... but :iono: In my head the :jeep: would actually be more fun than the Beemah :derp: around town, but maybe not. The trouble is, after haing the ;poorvette: for years, kinda sporty just doesn't do much for me.
Right...which is why the :jeep: is perfect. There's no "kinda sporty" it's not sporty at all. That's not the point. Top down, doors off, music blasting cruising around ZFG is the point.

I actually think a :poorvette: and :jeep: combo is perfect. I'll be executing that myself soon.
I kinda do too... maybe I should look into 2018 leftover :dills: . I would want a basic Sport soft top :manuel: with AC in a cool color. :notsure: on two or four door.
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D Griff wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2019 10:44 am
Detroit wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2019 10:42 am
Right...which is why the :jeep: is perfect. There's no "kinda sporty" it's not sporty at all. That's not the point. Top down, doors off, music blasting cruising around ZFG is the point.

I actually think a :poorvette: and :jeep: combo is perfect. I'll be executing that myself soon.
I kinda do too... maybe I should look into 2018 leftover :dills: . I would want a basic Sport soft top :manuel: with AC in a cool color. :notsure: on two or four door.
Get yourself a 2-door for maximum fun. Can still put adults in the back just fine. The maneuverability of the 2-door is outstanding.

I bet you could find a NEW 2018 base 2-door with A/C for under $30k.
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Detroit wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2019 10:49 am
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I kinda do too... maybe I should look into 2018 leftover :dills: . I would want a basic Sport soft top :manuel: with AC in a cool color. :notsure: on two or four door.
Get yourself a 2-door for maximum fun. Can still put adults in the back just fine. The maneuverability of the 2-door is outstanding.

I bet you could find a NEW 2018 base 2-door with A/C for under $30k.
Are there good financing :dill: anymore?
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D Griff wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2019 10:55 am
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Get yourself a 2-door for maximum fun. Can still put adults in the back just fine. The maneuverability of the 2-door is outstanding.

I bet you could find a NEW 2018 base 2-door with A/C for under $30k.
Are there good financing :dill: anymore?
Not that I can find. Crebitz union is your best bet lately.

Though, the longer these 18's sit, the more likely FCA will do something to move them. Low interest financing is a strong lever they have yet to pull.
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Detroit wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2019 11:00 am
Not that I can find. Crebitz union is your best bet lately.

Though, the longer these 18's sit, the more likely FCA will do something to move them. Low interest financing is a strong lever they have yet to pull.
Unlikely you'll see a crazy rate - banks won't buy rates down on old units. Customer cash is the likely outcome.

CU is best bet.
Well, C Cap might be willing to discount rates, but you're probably right. Customer cash is most likely.
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My :dillerman: has 48 2018s and 65 2019s :thisisfine: both are discounted the same way ... 1-2k apart only.

can’t you order a 2020 now ?! :thisisfine:
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max225 wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2019 11:38 am My :dillerman: has 48 2018s and 65 2019s :thisisfine: both are discounted the same way ... 1-2k apart only.

can’t you order a 2020 now ?! :thisisfine:
Yea, ordering opened for 2020 this week...they're starting to be built at the end of the month.

I don't understand how there isn't more interest in moving 18's.
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Detroit wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2019 11:39 am
max225 wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2019 11:38 am My :dillerman: has 48 2018s and 65 2019s :thisisfine: both are discounted the same way ... 1-2k apart only.

can’t you order a 2020 now ?! :thisisfine:
Yea, ordering opened for 2020 this week...they're starting to be built at the end of the month.

I don't understand how there isn't more interest in moving 18's.
I think you guys are waiting ... and Corp guys already :math: it out, the trucks had the cash on the hood for 4th of July ...
It’s a lever that will happen for Labor Day sales. 10-15k on the hood of the 18s.
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max225 wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2019 11:42 am
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Yea, ordering opened for 2020 this week...they're starting to be built at the end of the month.

I don't understand how there isn't more interest in moving 18's.
I think you guys are waiting ... and Corp guys already :math: it out, the trucks had the cash on the hood for 4th of July ...
It’s a lever that will happen for Labor Day sales. 10-15k on the hood of the 18s.
It's very possible.
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Detroit wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2019 11:44 am
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I think you guys are waiting ... and Corp guys already :math: it out, the trucks had the cash on the hood for 4th of July ...
It’s a lever that will happen for Labor Day sales. 10-15k on the hood of the 18s.
It's very possible.
That’s what I would do and that’s the sort of shit I deal with for a living. It just makes the most sense. Having fy18 vehicles in 2020 would be insane
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If I had to deal with such half-assed-ness I would put the key back in my pocket before getting in the car.


Then I would drive it to a dealership and trade it in on a car that isn't stupid.
:dat: ... so who wants to buy my BMW??? :hue:
For 15% of blue book "fair" value? Okay.

Max says BMWs suck for depreciation, so I'm doing you a favor. Will pay with cash and gift cards to Cheesecake Factory that I've accumulated over the years.
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Detroit wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2019 11:39 am
max225 wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2019 11:38 am My :dillerman: has 48 2018s and 65 2019s :thisisfine: both are discounted the same way ... 1-2k apart only.

can’t you order a 2020 now ?! :thisisfine:
Yea, ordering opened for 2020 this week...they're starting to be built at the end of the month.

I don't understand how there isn't more interest in moving 18's.
The dealer knows what they have.
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D Griff wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2019 10:02 am

:dat: ... so who wants to buy my BMW??? :hue:
For 15% of blue book "fair" value? Okay.

Max says BMWs suck for depreciation, so I'm doing you a favor. Will pay with cash and gift cards to Cheesecake Factory that I've accumulated over the years.
I like cheesecake
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max225 wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2019 11:38 am My :dillerman: has 48 2018s and 65 2019s :thisisfine: both are discounted the same way ... 1-2k apart only.

can’t you order a 2020 now ?! :thisisfine:
Did MSRP go up at all? That was the Wrangler play. Increase MSRP every year by a bit. And special editions. Moab is the only spec Ed that I know of yet.
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Johnny_P wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2019 11:50 am
Detroit wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2019 11:39 am
Yea, ordering opened for 2020 this week...they're starting to be built at the end of the month.

I don't understand how there isn't more interest in moving 18's.
The dealer knows what they have.
The one dealer I was going back and forth with on the 18 that's still available.... https://www.orchardchryslerdodgejeep.co ... G4JW234298

Would only go $2k below employee (~$8k off)...which being that it was missing nearly $2k of content I wanted, made no sense to pick up instead of ordering a 2 model year newer vehicle exactly how I want.
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Detroit wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2019 12:10 pm
Johnny_P wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2019 11:50 am

The dealer knows what they have.
The one dealer I was going back and forth with on the 18 that's still available.... https://www.orchardchryslerdodgejeep.co ... G4JW234298

Would only go $2k below employee (~$8k off)...which being that it was missing nearly $2k of content I wanted, made no sense to pick up instead of ordering a 2 model year newer vehicle exactly how I want.
They could always sweeten the deal by throwing in floor mats and scotch guard :popcorn: she can you come in for a test drive? :dillerman:
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Usually a :dillerman: can pawn off a few leftover units on a :derp: when there is some money on the hood and pretend like they are getting a :dill: but there are so many of the lots still that without a targeted campaign it is legit :fullretard:
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