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:amazing: that's the 'good' :dillerman: where :waxer: got his :dill: and I got the 300.
So, I am not surprised now with the games they are playing with me on my order.

1 week in since I gave them the deposit and they don't have a VON for me and claim they don't have any allocation, but I am #1 on the waiting list..... I specifically asked if they had allocations before I put the deposit and they swore they did.

Clearly they don't want to place my order at the discounted price with any urgency when they are raping people.

I'm going to cancel the order with these dirtbags this morning. I can't stand people like this and refuse to buy from them. As a general rule, I never buy from dealers that do ADM.
I don't blame you - I believe the same thing.

Hell, the dealer I bought my :truk: from tried to tack on a $1000 ADM. "Great news, we can give you $1000 off."

That brought the price to MSRP. I said, NOPE, we're starting at the price on the window sticker, you've had this truck for over a month. Clearly it's not in demand.

They folded pretty quickly on that.
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Thu Feb 08, 2018 12:57 pm

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:amazing: that's the 'good' :dillerman: where :waxer: got his :dill: and I got the 300.
So, I am not surprised now with the games they are playing with me on my order.

1 week in since I gave them the deposit and they don't have a VON for me and claim they don't have any allocation, but I am #1 on the waiting list..... I specifically asked if they had allocations before I put the deposit and they swore they did.

Clearly they don't want to place my order at the discounted price with any urgency when they are raping people.

I'm going to cancel the order with these dirtbags this morning. I can't stand people like this and refuse to buy from them. As a general rule, I never buy from dealers that do ADM.
Good for you!
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So they are running a $289 a month with $2499 down on Sports right now... hmmm maybe some waiting would be wise.
2018 JKs or JLs? Both are being made for 2018 :member:

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So they are running a $289 a month with $2499 down on Sports right now... hmmm maybe some waiting would be wise.
2018 JKs or JLs? Both are being made for 2018 :member:
JK production only runs thru April IIRC.
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So they are running a $289 a month with $2499 down on Sports right now... hmmm maybe some waiting would be wise.
2018 JKs or JLs? Both are being made for 2018 :member:
JLs! But only on the sport unlimited...

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Meanwhile in Idaho
Just talked to Kent Schurtleff formally w/ Dillons. He was the salesman that did my build. He said he has joined a new dealership in Nampa, ID. The dealership is matching Dennis Dillons jeep offer and said they are going 8%-13% under invoice with $299 processing fee. Financing through the dealership.The way Kent talked, it sounds like they are going to be very competitive to get the JLs on the road. Definitely worth checking into and they may even beat Dillons. Here is the info.

Peterson Dodge Chrysler Jeep
5801 East Gate Blvd
Nampa, ID 83687
Salesman - Kent Schurtleff
phone - 208-741-1289
email - kentschurtleff@gmail.com
8%-13% under invoice pricing
financing goes through dealer
$299 processing fee

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Thu Feb 08, 2018 2:48 pm
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2018 JKs or JLs? Both are being made for 2018 :member:
JLs! But only on the sport unlimited...
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JLs! But only on the sport unlimited...
:idbu:
Hey what does this smiley mean ? Like thanks but no thanks?

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:idbu:
Hey what does this smiley mean ? Like thanks but no thanks?
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Thu Feb 08, 2018 8:43 am
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:amazing: that's the 'good' :dillerman: where :waxer: got his :dill: and I got the 300.
So, I am not surprised now with the games they are playing with me on my order.

1 week in since I gave them the deposit and they don't have a VON for me and claim they don't have any allocation, but I am #1 on the waiting list..... I specifically asked if they had allocations before I put the deposit and they swore they did.

Clearly they don't want to place my order at the discounted price with any urgency when they are raping people.

I'm going to cancel the order with these dirtbags this morning. I can't stand people like this and refuse to buy from them. As a general rule, I never buy from dealers that do ADM.
That is a complete a$# f#$^ing. Sixteen grand ADM on a $50K Jeep that will be in mass production in a year. While ADM is despicable in all forms, I at least get it when you're sitting on 1 of 1500 Ford GTs or something like that. But something they will be making hundreds of thousands of? It's as opportunistic as looting during a natural disaster. The only people I have less respect for are individuals who would actually pay the 16 grand because they cannot wait a few months.

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So, I am not surprised now with the games they are playing with me on my order.

1 week in since I gave them the deposit and they don't have a VON for me and claim they don't have any allocation, but I am #1 on the waiting list..... I specifically asked if they had allocations before I put the deposit and they swore they did.

Clearly they don't want to place my order at the discounted price with any urgency when they are raping people.

I'm going to cancel the order with these dirtbags this morning. I can't stand people like this and refuse to buy from them. As a general rule, I never buy from dealers that do ADM.
That is a complete a$# f#$^ing. Sixteen grand ADM on a $50K Jeep that will be in mass production in a year. While ADM is despicable in all forms, I at least get it when you're sitting on 1 of 1500 Ford GTs or something like that. But something they will be making hundreds of thousands of? It's as opportunistic as looting during a natural disaster. The only people I have less respect for are individuals who would actually pay the 16 grand because they cannot wait a few months.
It is already in full production I believe, for the 4 door, the 2 door will ramp up in march. Pickup in November. The pickup will be built on the old JL lane which shuts down in march. That line alone has a capacity of 200k, the current line for the regular JL i think has a capacity of 300k... I think can certainly pump the market full of these if they wanted to... but the pricing is nuts.

There are no financing offers
No lease offers
it is 3-5k more than the JK and the JK is discounted right off the bat making the gap 7-10k+
So whoever is buying the JL now is obviously some :derp: with more :troywax: than brains... or simply finds spending an extra 10k for having the "first" worth while.

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Thu Feb 08, 2018 3:29 pm

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That is a complete a$# f#$^ing. Sixteen grand ADM on a $50K Jeep that will be in mass production in a year. While ADM is despicable in all forms, I at least get it when you're sitting on 1 of 1500 Ford GTs or something like that. But something they will be making hundreds of thousands of? It's as opportunistic as looting during a natural disaster. The only people I have less respect for are individuals who would actually pay the 16 grand because they cannot wait a few months.
It is already in full production I believe, for the 4 door, the 2 door will ramp up in march. Pickup in November. The pickup will be built on the old JL lane which shuts down in march. That line alone has a capacity of 200k, the current line for the regular JL i think has a capacity of 300k... I think can certainly pump the market full of these if they wanted to... but the pricing is nuts.

There are no financing offers
No lease offers
it is 3-5k more than the JK and the JK is discounted right off the bat making the gap 7-10k+
So whoever is buying the JL now is obviously some :derp: with more :troywax: than brains... or simply finds spending an extra 10k for having the "first" worth while.
My krebitz union will do 2.24% for 66 months. Take it up the ass with the :doge: 8% interest or whatever and then refi with your own lender
You can order juan from Potatoland for 8-13% off invoice
It won't lose value if other area :dillerman: are marking up $15k
There are ways to get it at a good price and overall cost of ownership. Now leasing, nah, you're probably screwed there.

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It is already in full production I believe, for the 4 door, the 2 door will ramp up in march. Pickup in November. The pickup will be built on the old JL lane which shuts down in march. That line alone has a capacity of 200k, the current line for the regular JL i think has a capacity of 300k... I think can certainly pump the market full of these if they wanted to... but the pricing is nuts.

There are no financing offers
No lease offers
it is 3-5k more than the JK and the JK is discounted right off the bat making the gap 7-10k+
So whoever is buying the JL now is obviously some :derp: with more :troywax: than brains... or simply finds spending an extra 10k for having the "first" worth while.
My krebitz union will do 2.24% for 66 months. Take it up the ass with the :doge: 8% interest or whatever and then refi with your own lender
You can order juan from Potatoland for 8-13% off invoice
It won't lose value if other area :dillerman: are marking up $15k
There are ways to get it at a good price and overall cost of ownership. Now leasing, nah, you're probably screwed there.
Right but look at the amount of research it took... And I do this as a "hobby"

A :derp: walking into a :dillerman: because he is a key negotiator and "my presence is my negotiating power" is in for a rude awakening and or... ok with paying crazy ass prices.

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Behold the poverty JL
https://www.dupagechryslerdodgejeepram. ... g4jw141006
sub 30k for a brand new one...
Honestly it isn't bad... actually way better than the current JK even in the poverty trim
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Behold the poverty JL
https://www.dupagechryslerdodgejeepram. ... g4jw141006
sub 30k for a brand new one...
Honestly it isn't bad... actually way better than the current JK even in the poverty trim
Poverty Radio
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Poverty wheel
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Poverty Dash
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U are in a Jeep. No one can say u are not on the team!

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I've been featured on the cover of Poverty Illustrated 4 times.

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It's impossible not to lol.
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I've been featured on the cover of Poverty Illustrated 4 times.

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Behold the poverty JL
https://www.dupagechryslerdodgejeepram. ... g4jw141006
sub 30k for a brand new one...
Honestly it isn't bad... actually way better than the current JK even in the poverty trim
Poverty Radio
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Poverty wheel
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Poverty Dash
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Damn I actually don't hate that

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max225 wrote:
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Behold the poverty JL
https://www.dupagechryslerdodgejeepram. ... g4jw141006
sub 30k for a brand new one...
Honestly it isn't bad... actually way better than the current JK even in the poverty trim
Poverty Radio


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hell that will be a $35k jeep in no time flat!

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this isnt a terrible spec at all. $35,500

https://www.dupagechryslerdodgejeepram. ... g5jw111335

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$4500 discount is :impressive:

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I know we universally hate the dude, but I think this review is spot on.

$40,600 2 door sport is just insane. Check out the play in the steering too.

Which is why I walked away not “in love” with the JL. It is better in every way than a JK but still very very similar

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I know we universally hate the dude, but I think this review is spot on.

$40,600 2 door sport is just insane. Check out the play in the steering too.

Which is why I walked away not “in love” with the JL. It is better in every way than a JK but still very very similar
I can't stand the guy enough to watch the video, but a $40k 2-door SPORT? :wtf: :nope:

Steering is still essentially 1800's tech just like the front axle. There's only so much you can do to improve it.
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I know we universally hate the dude, but I think this review is spot on.

$40,600 2 door sport is just insane. Check out the play in the steering too.

Which is why I walked away not “in love” with the JL. It is better in every way than a JK but still very very similar
I can't stand the guy enough to watch the video, but a $40k 2-door SPORT? :wtf: :nope:

Steering is still essentially 1800's tech just like the front axle. There's only so much you can do to improve it.
I posted it for Johnny, he was curious about the JL since Doug D was raving about how it is like a car which I found :wat:

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I can't stand the guy enough to watch the video, but a $40k 2-door SPORT? :wtf: :nope:

Steering is still essentially 1800's tech just like the front axle. There's only so much you can do to improve it.
I posted it for Johnny, he was curious about the JL since Doug D was raving about how it is like a car which I found :wat:
Doug D. is about as bad as this guy anymore.... If I'm watching any of his "why the XYZ is worth $$$$" videos in the livingroom on the TV my wife goes :rage: when she walks in.

Also, didn't know SubuarubarubaruWRXFanboi changed his channel name...
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